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View Poll Results: Who should be the next mayor of Ottawa?
Mark Sutcliffe 8 15.38%
Catherine McKenney 43 82.69%
Bob Chiarelli 1 1.92%
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2022, 11:38 AM
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'It's not a tea party': Mayor Jim Watson on his leadership and democracy
Outgoing mayor says he's not bothered by the Watson Club monicker. His goal was to find a 'clear majority'

Joanne Chianello · CBC News
Posted: Sep 07, 2022 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago


Jim Watson keeps his "promise book" on the polished wooden desk in his teal-coloured office in the heritage wing at city hall.

Other than a 2010 election promise to shrink council, he's been able to cross off every single item on his mayoral to-do list over the past 12 years.

"I feel very passionately about making sure that I got my agenda through because that agenda had the backing of the majority of people in Ottawa," the outgoing mayor told CBC.

It's an enviable record for any politician. There's no arguing that Watson has moved some major files through city hall during his tenure, from the Lansdowne redevelopment to the launch of the Confederation Line to the new city art gallery.

A substantial expansion of the city's rail systems, and a new central library — a 2014 election promise — are underway.

"I, like a lot of people, get tired of politicians who go out and promise the world, then they get to council and then they can't deliver and then they blame it on council," said Watson. "Well, why did you bring up a promise if you knew you didn't have support for it?"

That hasn't been a problem for Watson.

But the way in which Watson has secured support around the council table this term has drawn criticism for being too divisive, creating an unseemly level of acrimony. What in theory is supposed to be 24 independent members of council somehow morphed into two entrenched camps: the so-called Watson Club versus the outsiders.

The tension between the two groups reached its zenith during the convoy council meeting last February, a chaotic display in the midst of the protest crisis so shocking that more than 70,000 people tuned in to watch.

CBC spoke with six of the 11 council members who aren't running for their seats again to understand what it's been like to be in office this past term. The abuse hurled at them during the pandemic and the related convoy protests took an unexpected toll. But they also struggled with the politics inside city hall.

That Jim Watson leaves behind a fractious council culture is somewhat ironic, considering he came to power in 2010 on the heels of four tumultuous years at city hall. He won on the welcome slogan of "stability, reliability and credibility." And he kept his promise to work more collaboratively with his council colleagues — they all did.

But by the 2018 election, something changed.

A more progressive council was returned to city hall, with some incoming members very open about the fact they didn't agree with all the mayor's policies — on transit fare increases, for instance — and vocal about the fact they weren't afraid to mix it up. Watson's response to that blatant opposition was to pointedly sideline those who didn't agree.

To Diane Deans, it seemed as if the mayor "had decided he wasn't going to run again … and he did things very differently at the start of this term."

Consider that in just the second council meeting in 2018, Watson named brand-new councillors as committee chairs and deputy mayors, instead of following the usual practice of tapping those with more experience. No urban councillors chair any committees. When first-term councillor Jenna Sudds voluntarily stepped down from chairing the big-budget community and protective services committee, for example, Watson replaced her with another first-term councillor, Matthew Luloff, even though he already chaired another committee.

"I put forward names of people who I think I can work well with, who I think have the experience and the aptitude to do a really good job," Watson told CBC. "That's the part of leadership that I think it's important."

Watson dismisses criticisms about who-chairs-what as "inside baseball," but the decisions at the beginning of the term to freeze critics out of leadership roles set up an us-versus-them mentality from the get-go.

And he concedes that unlike his first term, he hasn't been working to get everyone onside.

"We know that there are some members of council, well, they'll never vote with me or never vote on this side of that issue," Watson said.

"And we're not going to waste their time. We're not going to waste our time. So at the end of the day, the goal was to try to find a clear majority, which was usually 15 or 16, which we were pretty successful."

That majority became known as the Watson Club.

The term was first used publicly by Mathieu Fleury three years ago, after the mayor's office effectively blocked the councillor's last-ditch efforts to stop the controversial Salvation Army shelter planned for Vanier and the Chateau Laurier hotel addition.

When Fleury was first elected in 2010, he said the council vibe was collaborative, but over the years, he's felt the pendulum of power swing too much toward the mayor's office. He pointed to the mayor's procedural manoeuvres to get his way, such as trying to avoid voting on a motion for a judicial inquiry on the Confederation Line.

And when you're on the outs with the mayor, said Fleury, it can get personal — and petty.

One small example: Watson, supported by a majority of councillors, named George Darouze, who's one of the deputy mayors and a rural councillor for Osgoode, to Shaw Centre's board of directors. Traditionally, the seat should have gone to Fleury, whose ward includes the convention centre.

"The politics were hurtful and in some ways destructive to us working together," said Fleury.

Despite being a veteran councillor, Diane Deans said she's been made to feel like an outsider from Day 1 of this term.

The mayor has rebuked her on many occasions. Instead of simply voting against a Deans motion to cut transit fares back in 2019, Watson called it the "worst motion" he'd ever seen. He once refused to allow her to ask a question at the finance committee meeting, to which she does not belong, which is virtually unheard of. More recently, he cut off her microphone at a Zoom meeting during procedural haggling over a motion for a judicial inquiry into the problems with the Confederation Line.

Deans first sat on council with Watson in 1994, and it's no secret the two don't see eye-to-eye.

But the level of antagonism appears to have reached new heights this term, hitting a fever pitch during the three-week trucking protests against COVID-19 mandates that paralyzed much of the downtown.

The two appeared not to have been communicating directly, even though Deans was the chair of the police board in the middle of a crisis that demanded a police response. When Deans and the board hired a temporary chief the day after Peter Sloly suddenly resigned, Watson backed a motion to remove Deans as chair.

Asked if the two of them had a direct conversation before an interim police chief was hired Deans said Watson doesn't speak to her.

"The mayor will not give me his phone number," she told CBC.

Watson — who's known for sending text messages constantly — said she's never asked for it.

But the mayor defends his leadership style.

He said the term Watson Club doesn't bother him, adding he's been called worse. His job is to convince enough councillors around the table to support him. That's democracy.

"I don't think it's appropriate when people storm off and have a temper tantrum, for instance, because they didn't win a vote," he told CBC. "I think some people have felt that, you know, they've lost so many votes that the system is rigged."

People who run for office often hold strong views that are often at odds with the strong views of other around the council table, he argues, and it's a councillor's job to win support for their ideas.

"Democracy is not a tea party," said Watson. "We're not there for polite chit-chat."

For many departing councillors, the rancour on council has been frustrating and demoralizing.

Keith Egli is a mediation lawyer by trade whose job is to try to get opposing sides to talk. One of the things that attracted both he and Scott Moffatt to municipal politics was the absence of political parties, the idea that councillors find a variety of allies on different issues.

That has happened on some issues — the official plan was approved almost unanimously, as was a climate-change master plan — but the last term has felt more partisan.

"It's almost like we have a government and an opposition," said Egli.

Egli said he's philosophically aligned with the mayor, so it's no surprise he usually votes with him — although there have been some exceptions. And he, like others who are seen to be club members, argue that the blame for discord on this council can't all be laid at Watson's feet.

"In order for two people to get along, they have to want to get along and they have to want to be seen as getting along," said Moffatt, who's walking away from his rural seat after 12 years. "But when part of your narrative is actually not getting along, then what?"

He points out that the councillors who were the most uproarious during the convoy council meeting were the ones voting against the motion to remove Deans. Moffatt argues that councillors need to work behind the scenes to come to a solution for problems.

"How you get to the result isn't always about standing on a soapbox and crying foul about how things are going," he said.

"The public doesn't know that when a councillor doesn't do any lobbying efforts before they walk-on a last minute motion that fails, they don't understand that the motion was destined to fail … and we know it's a bit of a show," said Moffatt.

"Sometimes the public doesn't know what show they're watching. We don't know what show we're producing."

Those councillors on the outside don't see it that way.

Fleury argues that discussions need to occur in open meetings so the public can understand how decisions are made.

And it's not like the Watson side of council chamber haven't walked-on substantial motions, such as the out-of-the-blue plan to add the farflung Tewin community to the urban boundary, against staff advice. The difference there is that the Watson-backed walk-ons pass.

Still, all councillors agree that something needs to change.

A new mix of personalities that will bring its own interpersonal dynamic to city hall, which departing council members hope will be an improvement. And they suggest that council make a concerted effort to come up with a strategic plan, even go on a retreat.

Because in the end, what the public most cares about, said Moffatt, "is that their council actually makes them proud of their city."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...ncil-1.6573762
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My biggest issue with Watson is that he only appoints his people to head Committees, even if they are grossly unqualified (Hubley on transit, for example). Even the planning committee; three candidates raised their hand to head it after Harder had to resign in disgrace; Leiper, Moffatt and Gower, and he decided on dual-chairs just to spite Leiper (who has always been respectful of Watson, when when he disagrees).

And the same block always votes with him. You'd think that with committee heads or the transit judicial review, some of them would have voted independently, but no. Or the appointment of a new Kanata North Councillor, only Egli and Gower broke away from Watson (and they have more than others), along with Luloff.
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Rules regarding front gardens are out of step with the 21st century: Rawlson King

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Sep 07, 2022



Georgina King, 78, is upset about a city notice of violation she received about her front yard rock garden in the east end. PHOTO BY ASHLEY FRASER /Postmedia

The municipality telling an Orléans woman to replace part of her front garden with grass is evidence that the City of Ottawa needs to move its rules out of the 1950s and into the 21st century, says Rawlson King, the incumbent councillor for Rideau-Rockcliffe.

King and Innes Ward Coun. Laura Dudas took steps toward moving the city in that direction last May when they introduced a motion asking staff to look at the feasibility of permitting landscaping projects on front yards and other city rights of way, including any bylaw amendments or other requirements.

The issue has been in the spotlight recently since Georgina King, 78, was ordered by the city to return part of her front garden to its original state — grass — because it is on the city-owned portion of her property. She replaced the grass and designed a garden featuring bushes and gravel paths as a retirement project 17 years ago. King said she has only had compliments — not complaints — until this year.

Georgina King, who lives on a quiet street in Orléans, said the notice of violation has caused her sleepless nights.
Her story struck a nerve with other gardeners and community members.

“My tax dollars are going toward harassing a 78-year-old with a beautifully manicured garden?” one woman tweeted, along with the hashtag #gardenersunite.


Georgina King, who lives on a quiet street in Orléans, said the notice of violation has caused her sleepless nights. PHOTO BY ASHLEY FRASER /Postmedia

In a statement, Roger Chapman, the city’s director of bylaw and regulatory services, said safety is the main concern with the garden. He said the bylaw department received a complaint about the Orléans property last December. It inspected it in April and found that “a portion of the grass on the right of way had been removed and replaced with river rocks.”

The city’s Use and Care of Roads bylaw prohibits river rock on the city’s right of way “as it can pose a safety hazard if it is accidentally picked up by snow removal equipment,” he said.

On its website, the City of Ottawa describes its right-of-way as an area wider than the width of the road “in the event that a road widening becomes necessary at some point in the future.

“Notwithstanding this, a property owner is still responsible for maintaining the city-owned portion of their land, with respect to matters such as grass cutting and snow clearance.”

The deadline for Georgina King to comply has been extended until Nov. 11, the city said.

She said reaching anyone at the city was difficult since she got the notice of bylaw infraction.

Her granddaughter, Ashley Wilson, noted that the garden has pea stone gravel paths — not river rocks, which are larger, and they had not been told there were safety concerns. But she said she would be happy to discuss alternatives with the bylaw department, such as mulch or more shrubs if rocks are a concern.

Matthew Luloff, incumbent councillor in the Orléans riding where Georgina King lives, said her case is symptomatic of a problem with bylaws affecting city rights of way.

“We need to use a common sense approach to these issues. We have got wonderful residents willing to put in time and effort to beautify this shared space. We have to support them.”

He said he was speaking from a cul-de-sac where six people had redesigned their front yards with gardens.

“There need to be clear guidelines that make sense. Lawns are going the way of the dodo (bird).”

Rawlson King said he moved the motion with Dudas after hearing from other residents in similar situations. The motion calls for a review of bylaws and could eventually support the development of gardening and naturalization in the city-owned right of way, he said.

He said it is important to review what current bylaws say and set up supports for naturalization and gardening in the city-owned portions of yards – including verges.

Naturalization and gardens that promote pollination and are more environmentally friendly make sense, especially since the city has declared a climate emergency, he said. They also can add beauty to the community.

“That is why we asked (the city) to move to this more ecologically friendly approach.”

The report back to Ottawa’s newly elected city council on the issue will be in 2023.

Rawlson King also said the complaint-based approach of bylaw enforcement when it comes to property issues is problematic.

“If you have an angry neighbour, they might just pick up the phone and report to bylaw.”

He said he worked with a resident in his ward who created a small garden in the verge between the sidewalk and the curb. He said the resident’s garden didn’t negatively impact either the sidewalk or the roadway and was beautiful to look at. But, based on a complaint from a neighbour, they were told to remove it and return it to grass.

“I think it is important to have these frameworks that create a policy more suitable for the 21st century,” King said. “Requiring a strip of sod that requires maintenance and resources to upkeep is straight out of the 1950s. We need something that is modern and fits our time.”
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As usual, a ridiculous process driven by a single complaint. When will this city recognize that an entirely complaints-based enforcement process is a terrible way to operate?
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Transit: Where the leading mayoral candidates stand on OC Transpo
Transit has been and will remain one of the new council's most intractable issues.

Blair Crawford, Ottawa Citizen
Sep 07, 2022 • 3 hours ago • 4 minute read


Few issues have consumed as much of Ottawa city council’s time in the past decade as OC Transpo. From tragedies — the Westboro and Barrhaven bus crashes — to the ongoing saga of the Confederation Line, which is the subject of a provincial inquiry, to the construction of the east, west and south LRT extensions, transit has been and will remain one of the new council’s most intractable issues.

The three frontrunners for mayor in the municipal election next month have widely divergent positions on how they would handle transit.

Here’s a summary.


Bob Chiarelli was mayor of Ottawa from 2001 to 2006 and served four years as regional chair before that in pre-amalgamation Ottawa. Those years were sandwiched by stints as an MPP at Queen’s Park, until his loss in the 2018 election.

Chiarelli promises a “top to bottom review” of OC Transpo within 100 days of taking office, if he’s elected on Oct. 24. Such a review would look for cost-saving “efficiencies,” particularly from within OC Transpo management.

“That review will be designed to find efficiencies and map the way forward for a transit system that works for its passengers,” Chiarelli says.

He is adamantly opposed to offering free transit for some or all OC Transpo customers, having committed to a tax freeze for municipal property owners.

“A fare freeze would be another $6 to $7 million hit to the bottom line for OC Transpo that is already tens of millions of dollars in the hole,” Chiarelli says.

Chiarelli cites existing fare discounts, for seniors, children and university students, for example, but says “a wholesale dump on the taxpayer is unaffordable.”

The COVID-19 pandemic and work-from-home accommodations for federal government workers means the city must rethink its transit priorities, Chiarelli says. The focus on the daily commute into the downtown core is outmoded, he says, and OC Transpo should work on improving reliability and service outside the core.

“If public servants are going to work remotely, maybe it’s time to re-direct money from rush-hour service to all-day service and improve local routes in neighbourhoods across the city.”

https://bobchiarelli.ca/


Catherine McKenney, the incumbent Somerset Ward councillor since 2014 who is vying for the mayor’s chair, was a member of the transit commission and has made transit one of the centrepieces of their campaign. As a councillor, McKenney pushed for an LRT inquiry and in June testified at the provincial commission looking into Phase 1 construction and the existing maintenance program for the LRT.

McKenney, who uses they/them pronouns, says their plan for improving transit service will benefit those who take transit regularly, those who are occasional users and even car commuters by reducing road congestion.

McKenney vows to increase transit service by 20 per cent over the next four years.

They promise to initiate a “a review of the entire route system to ensure transit is serving communities across the city in the most efficient and effective way.”

If the provincial inquiry finds that Rideau Transit Group and Rideau Maintenance Group are in default of their contractural obligations, McKenney wants to bring maintenance of the LRT back into the control of the city and says the city will “hire the expertise to fix the system.”

Perhaps the most controversial part of McKenney’s platform is a promise to make OC Transpo free to everyone 17 and under and to make the existing Equipass for low-income residents more affordable.

To pay for it all, McKenney would shift spending away from “lower priorities” and says the free and reduced fares could be done without breaking existing city policy of holding property tax increases to three per cent.

McKenney also promises to accelerate OC Transpo’s switch to electric buses and to invest in Para Transpo and accessible taxis by tacking a 20-cents-per-ride surcharge on rideshare companies.

https://www.mckenney2022.ca


Mark Sutcliffe, a journalist, broadcaster and entrepreneur, is making his first run for public office.

Though he promises, somewhat vaguely, to “fix LRT Phase 1 and deliver Phase 2,” Sutcliffe is strongly opposed to free transit. He’s also critical of McKenney’s stance, issuing two media releases pointing to McKenney’s past calls for free transit and accusing McKenney of flip-flopping on the issue.

“Ottawa is facing an affordability crisis. ‘Free’ transit isn’t free. It costs taxpayers millions of dollars,” Sutcliffe says. “We need more reliable transit, including light rail that works and improved bus service. And we need honesty from politicians about their plans.”

Sutcliffe says he will push to secure funding for Phase 3 of the LRT, which would extend rail service to Kanata, Stittsville and Barrhaven. Like McKenney, Sutcliffe is also pushing to continue OC Transpo’s transition from diesel buses to electric ones. He would also work with the City of Gatineau to bring STO light-rail service and electric buses into Ottawa, replacing diesel-powered buses.

Sutcliffe’s transit promises also includes improving cycling and pedestrian connections to present and future transit stations, adding more secure bike storage and adding an additional 100 E-bike charging stations.

https://marksutcliffe.ca/


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Affordable housing, reliable transit top concerns for Ottawa residents going into election, survey finds
“Ottawans have a lot on their minds when it comes to their municipal election ballots this fall, and not without reason.”

Jacquie Miller, Ottawa Citizen
Sep 08, 2022 • 19 minutes ago • 3 minute read


The cost of housing and public transit are top issues for Ottawa residents as the city heads into a municipal election this fall, according to a survey commissioned by the Broadbent Institute.

Those topics topped a list of 10 issues respondents were asked to rate on a scale of one (not at all a concern) to five (a very big concern).

The survey found that 48 per cent of respondents agreed the cost of housing was a very big concern, while 46 per cent rated the frequency and reliability of OC Transpo services and LRT issues as a very big concern.

That was followed by 41 per cent who were very concerned about “honesty and accountability at city hall” and 40 per cent who were very concerned about the police response to the “Freedom Convoy” occupation of downtown Ottawa last winter.

Property taxes were a big concern for 35 per cent of respondents, followed by climate change and municipal climate action (33 per cent), traffic and road conditions (30 per cent), homelessness (30 per cent) and the quality of parks and recreation services (13 per cent).

At the same time, a majority (54 per cent) of those surveyed agreed that Ottawa should invest to improve services like recreation, roads, transit, bike lanes, affordable housing and public health, even it if means a “small tax increase.” That compared to to 33 per cent who agreed the city should “hold the line,” not invest to improve services and focus on cutting property taxes so people would have more money in their pockets to spend on their greatest needs.

The random online survey of 405 people who said they planned to vote in the Oct. 24 municipal election was conducted by Viewpoints Research. It has a margin of error of five per cent.

The survey found strong support for not allowing mayoral and city council candidates to accept donations from real-estate developers, with 65 per cent of respondents strongly supporting that statement and 19 per cent somewhat supporting it.

When asked about increasing protection for renters to reduce evictions and improve building maintenance, 39 per cent strongly supported that idea, and 36 somewhat supported it.

On transit, a total of 73 per cent strongly or somewhat supported the idea of expanding OC Transpo service in suburban areas, with residents and businesses in those areas helping to pay.

The survey found only 29 per cent of those surveyed agreed with the statement that overall the city was “heading in the right direction,” while 48 per cent agreed it was “off on the wrong track” and 23 per cent were “not sure.”

“Ottawans have a lot on their minds when it comes to their municipal election ballots this fall, and not without reason,” Clement Nocos, director of policy and stakeholder relations at the Broadbent Institute, said in a statement. “With the retirement of Mayor Jim Watson and several members of the current City Council, there are opportunities for a renewed vision and we were interested in testing the public opinion waters.”

Nocos interprets the results of the survey as an indication that Ottawans “are looking for change.”

“A bold progressive vision that prioritizes equality over tax cuts, investments over austerity, and collaborative leadership instead of favours for well-endowed interests could win the day,” the statement from Nocos said.

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Chiarelli's "efficiencies" mean cuts. and "improving reliability and service outside the core." means outside the Greenbelt.

Sutcliff sounds like status quo with minor improvements to connectivity to rail stations.

McKenney's is by far better, while remaining achievable (free transit for all is not, so I'm glad they moved away from that).

As for "fixing" the LRT. Here's a great thread from Ken Woods, a former OC Transpo bus operator, train driver and now I believe he's a supervisor in the control room.

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I can't help but wonder what candidates mean by "Fix LRT".

• you're not changing the vehicles
• you're not redesigning the stations
• you're not laying new tracks
• you're not changing the switches or heaters

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So what would a councilor or mayor do to "fix" LRT?

Communications? Love to see a council directive for 100% transparency. Back that up with a transit commissioner that answers to an ombudsman and is required to report monthly to riders with complete reliability stats.

Planning? Love to see citizens groups involved in transit planning. This would require unions, community groups, councilors, and transit planners to revamp city transit vision from the ground up. It needs to include Para, cyclists, seniors, and commuters.
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Vision? Bus drivers used to serve communities before interlining turned bus routes into cross town interlines. The value of a driver staying in a geographical area is about building a service philosophy. Serving a single area brings a service loyalty to a driver and their clients
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Having a familiarity with your clients changes everything about driving transit for drivers and clients. Interlining has killed this, imo.
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Vision? Less commute, more trunk. It's time to rethink the everybody-wants-to-go-downtown vision of 1990. Using the bus needs to be primarily geared to the services around where people live.
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Make transit awesome to get around the neighborhood, and connect it to the trunk so we can go to your neighborhood where transit is awesome there too. Commuting has changed. Time to compete with the car by going where the cars are going.
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Funding! Transit needs investment. Equipment. Labour. Electrification. Lower fares. We pour money into infrastructure for cars, with very little ROI. This needs to change. Less parking, more buses!

This is what I'm looking for in a candidate.
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On another note, my prediction that Blais would run for Mayor was wrong. He is sticking his nose in the campaign though, criticizing McKenney's cycling plan and calling them an NDP candidate (Watson Club loves to push the idea that there are no Political Parties in municipal politics, but brings up Political Parties in municipal politics when it suits them).
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On another note, my prediction that Blais would run for Mayor was wrong. He is sticking his nose in the campaign though, criticizing McKenney's cycling plan and calling them an NDP candidate (Watson Club loves to push the idea that there are no Political Parties in municipal politics, but brings up Political Parties in municipal politics when it suits them).
Any transit plan that supports a form of mobility other than cars gets a thumbs up from me. Sutcliffe and Chiarelli have been disappointing on this front so far. I'm on board with a plan that aggressively expands cycling infrastructure even though I'm not a cyclist.
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Any transit plan that supports a form of mobility other than cars gets a thumbs up from me. Sutcliffe and Chiarelli have been disappointing on this front so far. I'm on board with a plan that aggressively expands cycling infrastructure even though I'm not a cyclist.
Despite most of my transport being walking or biking I am less anti-car than most of the other posters here.

That said I am torn on this race. Looking for something bolder and maybe someone to take advantage of the strong mayor powers. McKenney for example could push through a real progressive vision with 35% of the councilors. Even if she is short the horse trading will be easier as they know opposing her is so dangerous. If we are going to be anti-car a hodge podge or bike lanes and narrowing roads just creates more gridlock. So province would veto congestion charge lets do what is in our power. $10 a day parking tax would chase lot of people out of their cars.
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I'm not anti-car, not that I feel I was targeted. I'm pro-choice (maybe a bad choice of words). My modal share is probably something along the lines of:

75% driving
20% transit
5% cycling

Whenever possible, we bike/walk/transit, but that's mostly just feasible when going downtown. Even our grocery store, which is near a decent bike network, has no bike rack. Maybe it's time for a bike parking minumum accross the board, if that's not already a thing. I'd like to live in a city where walking and cycling is a legitimate option that won't put me at risk of getting run down by a giant SUV.
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I'm not anti-car, not that I feel I was targeted. I'm pro-choice (maybe a bad choice of words). My modal share is probably something along the lines of:

75% driving
20% transit
5% cycling

Whenever possible, we bike/walk/transit, but that's mostly just feasible when going downtown. Even our grocery store, which is near a decent bike network, has no bike rack. Maybe it's time for a bike parking minimum accross the board, if that's not already a thing. I'd like to live in a city where walking and cycling is a legitimate option that won't put me at risk of getting run down by a giant SUV.
I'm heavier on the walking - probably 50% walking, 25% cycling and 25% driving, but my ideal city is probably along the lines of what you describe. I'd like to see a little more equitable division of space between pedestrians/transit/cyclists/drivers. Or really just a complete network of safe routes for pedestrians/cyclists.

McKenney's promise of a quick build out of cycling infrastructure sold me. I think it is huge in terms of quality of life (for everyone, not just cyclists) and after spending some time in the Plateau in Montreal this summer, I am convinced that it would be a real economic driver for the city. I've watched the progression of the Plateau from the late 90s to today, where there is safe infrastructure on almost every street, and the economic renaissance is nothing short of amazing. Yes, there are other factors at play, but the value of making a place where people want to live and hang out is pretty much undeniable to anyone who has witnessed that transformation.
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Despite most of my transport being walking or biking I am less anti-car than most of the other posters here.

That said I am torn on this race. Looking for something bolder and maybe someone to take advantage of the strong mayor powers. McKenney for example could push through a real progressive vision with 35% of the councilors. Even if she is short the horse trading will be easier as they know opposing her is so dangerous. If we are going to be anti-car a hodge podge or bike lanes and narrowing roads just creates more gridlock. So province would veto congestion charge lets do what is in our power. $10 a day parking tax would chase lot of people out of their cars.
I appreciate what you’re saying and agree with some of it but it’s been widely debunked at this point that more roads equals less traffic. There won’t be more traffic if we build more/better infrastructure for alternative modes of transportation. We don’t need to worry about that. I think what’ll get people out of their cars is giving them a serious choice in how they move, especially as fuel costs, etc… increase. Even giving more households an ability to get by with one car instead of two would be something most people would support. And we can’t do that with the status quo.
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Ontario passes 'strong mayor' legislation, giving Toronto, Ottawa mayors veto power
Ford has said he is planning to expand the powers to more municipalities

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Posted: Sep 08, 2022 1:14 PM ET | Last Updated: 1 hour ago


The next mayors of Toronto and Ottawa will now be able to veto certain bylaws, as the Ontario legislature passed a bill Thursday to give the leaders so-called strong mayor powers in a bid to get housing built more quickly.

It gives the mayors the authority to veto bylaws that conflict with provincial priorities, such as building housing. A council could override the mayor's veto with a two-thirds majority vote.

Toronto Mayor John Tory has expressed support for the plan, while the outgoing Ottawa mayor and two of the top contenders to replace him have said they are not in favour.

The opposition parties say the legislation amounts to Premier Doug Ford interfering in municipal politics right before the October municipal elections.

"It doesn't even mention housing in the bill at all," said NDP critic Jeff Burch.

"It has nothing to do with housing. It has to do with Doug Ford dealing with ghosts from his past," he said, referring to Ford's time as a Toronto city councillor while his late brother Rob Ford was mayor.

Doug Ford has said he is planning to expand the powers to more municipalities.

The Association of Municipalities of Ontario has said the province must have broad consultations if it plans to expand the power to more cities.

The legislation also gives the mayors the responsibility for preparing and tabling their city's budget, instead of council, appointing a chief administrative officer, and hiring and firing department heads, except for statutory appointments such as an auditor general, police chief or fire chief.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ayor-1.6576122
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I'm not anti-car, not that I feel I was targeted. I'm pro-choice (maybe a bad choice of words). My modal share is probably something along the lines of:

75% driving
20% transit
5% cycling

Whenever possible, we bike/walk/transit, but that's mostly just feasible when going downtown. Even our grocery store, which is near a decent bike network, has no bike rack. Maybe it's time for a bike parking minumum accross the board, if that's not already a thing. I'd like to live in a city where walking and cycling is a legitimate option that won't put me at risk of getting run down by a giant SUV.
I didn't mean it pejoratively at all in the Sun news sense of the word and actually deleted a sentence where I guessed I actually drive less than most.

Mine is something like walk 65 % Bike 15 % Drive 15% Transit 5%. Based on trips though mileage would be more mixed. Do most of my grocery shopping on foot though this is new post pandemic as I go more frequently. I do a lot of road trips so still put 10k-15k a year on my car but take those away and I'm under 2k a year in Ottawa city limits. And yet honestly it's car infrasture that I think needs the most work. (Well transit but that feels almost hopeless that this point).

Went camping a few weekends back when they closed the 417. Just a small glimpse into what would happen if we removed the Queensway. And yes if we added two lanes I know theory and history has shown it would just induce more sprawl but that is medium to long term and not certain. We are authorizing sprawl constantly anyway.

Do bikers actually feel safer or faster on Laurier for example? Personally, I am cowardly so my bike trips are to Landsdowne where I am on the Canal or to Lebreton where I can use the river and other trips where the waterway paths are the majority of the journey.

Someone mentioned Montreal and was just there working from a relative's home last week and biking has really come into it's own. Certainly it has nothing to do with the renaissance of the Plateau but is really a legitimate option. The lanes on quietish one way streets are especially nice to bike on. It was nice summer days though and previous trips with rain or snow the lanes have been nearly empty and nothing but a traffic annoyance. Lastly a little Ontario vs Quebec thing that makes a big difference is the helmet law. Renting those shared bikes or borrowing a bike for a quick ride to lunch becomes totally different when the police might hassle you for not wearing a helmet as cars speed by while texting.
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Lastly a little Ontario vs Quebec thing that makes a big difference is the helmet law. Renting those shared bikes or borrowing a bike for a quick ride to lunch becomes totally different when the police might hassle you for not wearing a helmet as cars speed by while texting.
The Ontario helmet law only applies to people under 18, so it shouldn’t be a big factor for adults.
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The Ontario helmet law only applies to people under 18, so it shouldn’t be a big factor for adults.
Good to know. Though that makes the difference in helmet wearing rates even more shocking. Guess that brings up why do are rental bikes come with helmets? Have never seen that before.
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Went camping a few weekends back when they closed the 417. Just a small glimpse into what would happen if we removed the Queensway. And yes if we added two lanes I know theory and history has shown it would just induce more sprawl but that is medium to long term and not certain. We are authorizing sprawl constantly anyway.
We're nowhere near the point where removing the Queensway would be viable. Some people want to put the cart before the horse. I place congestion charges in that category as well. Until we have an ace bike and transit network and see the reduction in car traffic, both those items should not even be considered.

That said, the same can be said for widening roads and highways (Ford's 5km Queensway widening promise will probably be as expensive as McKenney's City wide cycling network) and adding new routes. For reasons I've laid out in the past, the new east-end bridge is the only new "road" I would support, as long as it ends up a wash in terms of total car lanes crossing the river (if we have 4 lanes on the new east-end bridge, 4 lanes must be removed downtown).
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Good to know. Though that makes the difference in helmet wearing rates even more shocking. Guess that brings up why do are rental bikes come with helmets? Have never seen that before.
Not sure if Ottawa's helmet-wearing rates are higher than other cities. It is definitely higher than the number of helmets on Bixi riders, but sadly we have no equivalent at the moment so hard to compare.

Assuming that the offer of helmets it is just due to customer demand and mitigating liability. If I'm a rental company, I'm definitely offering the option of a helmet. If someone is suing me for injuries after falling off their bike, I'd definitely rather be in the position of having offered them a helmet that they declined.
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