Metro Phoenix Dining Thread - Page 20

PHXFlyer11 · #**381** Posted **May 12, 2020, 5:59 PM**

Here's the beauty of it... nobody is forcing businesses to open that don't want to. They probably have more capital and can afford to stayed closed longer, which is just fine if that's what they prefer. Other businesses are in different situations and some need to open to survive.

biggus diggus · #**382** Posted **May 12, 2020, 6:08 PM**

okay. Why did you feel the need to say that? Should be quite obvious to any of us that a business opening (or not opening) is their decision at this point.

exit2lef · #**383** Posted **May 12, 2020, 6:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11

Here's the beauty of it... nobody is forcing businesses to open that don't want to. They probably have more capital and can afford to stayed closed longer, which is just fine if that's what they prefer. Other businesses are in different situations and some need to open to survive.

Some may have capital and perhaps own their buildings, eliminating the issue of rent. Some others have been vocal in calling for rent relief and other forms of government support. I have no problem with restaurants that have made a decision to delay reopening. Urging others to do the same seems too prescriptive, though. Like you say, every situation is different.

PHXFlyer11 · #**384** Posted **May 12, 2020, 8:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus

okay. Why did you feel the need to say that? Should be quite obvious to any of us that a business opening (or not opening) is their decision at this point.

To make the point that the "Too Soon" movement is a matter of perspective. They can exercise their rights, but they shouldn't be pushing against others doing the same. "Too Soon" is really "Too Late" for many businesses unfortunately. If they want to or need to open and the public chooses to patron their business then everyone is consenting, kinda how it's supposed to work.

Phxguy · #**385** Posted **May 12, 2020, 11:05 PM**

Looks like OHSO is coming to CenPho, just not Desoto Market. The 525 W McDowell Rd or the former Zoe’s Kitchen will be renovated into ‘The Little O.’

biggus diggus · #**386** Posted **May 12, 2020, 11:13 PM**

I guess the more surprising news is that Zoe's is no longer. When did that happen?

Phxguy · #**387** Posted **May 12, 2020, 11:22 PM**

Caught me off guard, but another causality of these last few months, I guess. OHSO’s adjustment hearing is June, don’t think they’re wasting time moving in on this location.

biggus diggus · #**388** Posted **May 12, 2020, 11:34 PM**

It's still listed on their website, perhaps not updated yet. I ate take out from Zoe's several times in April. Happy for OHSO and the landlord but I'm just having a hard time understanding how this all happened so quickly.

ASU Diablo · #**389** Posted **May 12, 2020, 11:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Phxguy

Looks like OHSO is coming to CenPho, just not Desoto Market. The 525 W McDowell Rd or the former Zoe’s Kitchen will be renovated into ‘The Little O.’

Bummer not in downtown but great news!

I also did notice a new pending liquor license application notice at the old Zpizza Tap Room (Monroe Building) when I went out to get some Harumi Sushi yesterday. Listed as "Ramen Kagawa"

Phxguy · #**390** Posted **May 12, 2020, 11:48 PM**

I’m looking for indications of this closure, I agree this is rather sudden. But I wonder if this location has yet to make an announcement. Hearing date is set for June 4th.

exit2lef · #**391** Posted **May 13, 2020, 12:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by Phxguy

Looks like OHSO is coming to CenPho, just not Desoto Market. The 525 W McDowell Rd or the former Zoe’s Kitchen will be renovated into ‘The Little O.’

I would assume this is going to be a tap room with some food, but not a brewery given the small size.

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Bummer not in downtown but great news!

I also did notice a new pending liquor license application notice at the old Zpizza Tap Room (Monroe Building) when I went out to get some Harumi Sushi yesterday. Listed as "Ramen Kagawa"

That’s good news. The ramen place just a few doors down closed last year, so it will be good to have something downtown.

biggus diggus · #**392** Posted **May 13, 2020, 12:48 AM**

What's the ramen place called on Roosevelt that smells like sewer when you walk in the front door?

exit2lef · #**393** Posted **May 13, 2020, 1:03 AM**

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What's the ramen place called on Roosevelt that smells like sewer when you walk in the front door?

I haven’t noticed the sewer smell, but the ramen place on Roosevelt is called SoSoBa.

Phxguy · #**394** Posted **May 13, 2020, 1:06 AM**

Sosoba? Haven’t noticed any bad smells in or around that place

combusean · #**395** Posted **May 13, 2020, 3:17 AM**

There's an asian restaurant here that smells like absolute foetid death when you walk by, like somebody dropped a tiger shark in downtown Phoenix during the summer and left it there for a month.

I suspect people might be sensitive to one of their ingredients.

biggus diggus · #**396** Posted **May 13, 2020, 12:31 PM**

I took clients there for lunch once and everyone commented when we walked in the door. We never went back and I was embarrassed all day.

CrestedSaguaro · #**397** Posted **May 13, 2020, 3:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus

It's still listed on their website, perhaps not updated yet. I ate take out from Zoe's several times in April. Happy for OHSO and the landlord but I'm just having a hard time understanding how this all happened so quickly.

Looks like it was updated this morning. They now list the McDowell location as closed. Bummer. I used to go to lunch there quite often.

biggus diggus · #**398** Posted **May 13, 2020, 8:44 PM**

Highly unlikely that Angel's in Arcadia will reopen. 50/50 whether Angel's downtown will reopen and if it does it might be a last gasp. Really sad. With the departure of the bike shop, the high probability that Punch Bowl will never open, and the possible closure of ATAH, that corner is getting rocked.

Code5 · #**399** Posted **May 13, 2020, 10:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by biggus diggus

Highly unlikely that Angel's in Arcadia will reopen. 50/50 whether Angel's downtown will reopen and if it does it might be a last gasp. Really sad. With the departure of the bike shop, the high probability that Punch Bowl will never open, and the possible closure of ATAH, that corner is getting rocked.

This makes me hella depressed. Angel's Trumpet is probably one of my favorite places in downtown. That brisket is to die for.

So basically, the Arts District is dying as we know it. Not to be political, but it's too bad the government can't like, ya know, help these small businesses out in a time like this. This sucks big time.

biggus diggus · #**400** Posted **May 13, 2020, 10:18 PM**

2nd and Garfield was recently discussed on this site as an emerging concentration of nightlife. Funny how life works out some times.

Illinois isn't allowing restaurants to resume dine-in until June 26 - at the earliest - which is going to decimate the industry. If Arizona took that approach I think Angel's would be the least of our concerns, they're going to lose 50% or more of their restaurants.