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I've been to the H&M a couple times. I went one time on a Tuesday during my lunch hour and it was packed inside but there was no line. I also went on a Thursday night to buy some Xmas presents for the fam and it was a pleasant experience. There was a line to get in this Saturday when I walked past it and I stayed on the other side of the street.

Regardless, it's going to be a VERY H&M Christmas for the family.

Fashionable, cheap, and they can't get it in SoCal!

And my goodness, the Union Square area is INSANELY packed this time of year! It's almost scary!
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SF's central shopping district is really booming (and expanding outward). This is a major change from ten years ago, when the area seemed to be listing toward irrelevance.
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I can't wait for Barney's. Also Bloomie's(gonna be the west coast flagship)

Wilkes Bashford on Sutter will always be my favorite store in The City though..great place to run into the Bay Area's elite...LOL




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Honestly, I can't afford to shop at Wilkes-Bashford.
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why in san fancisco and not los angeles? they started at LA
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The company might be based in LA, but according to the article their only stores thus far are Dallas, Vegas and Atlanta. LA doesn't even have a store. And that Juicy stuff is huge here.

Companies have varying strategies for how they roll out stores. Maybe they have such good representation in the department stores and boutiques of LA that they aren't looking for a stand alone store yet.

Frankly, I hate the word "JUICY" as a brand especially when it is platered across someone's butt in big bold letters.
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I would like to see this district move into the Mid Market area a little. I think that is one area that needs Gentrification, no matter what many of the people say (whine) otherwise.

My wife and I went to H&M a few times. We both liked it quite a bit. We don't buy a lot of expensive clothing, but what we saw was good looking styles at good prices. Yes, there was a lot of squealing...
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why in san fancisco and not los angeles? they started at LA
i don't know if this answer is good enough, but here's an article from the san francisco business times from july:

Retail scene picking up N.Y. accent
Sarah Duxbury


The Yankees are coming.

East Coast retailers keen to test Pacific Coast shopping waters are choosing San Francisco as their beachhead. By Labor Day, a flood of stores familiar to Manhattan shoppers will open here. For most, it is their first time west of the Rockies.

Blame Bay Area cosmopolitanism and the area's relative density for retailers' decision to skirt L.A. Smart money says a more compelling reason for this retail invasion is that San Franciscans shop.

"In the retail industry, it's thought that San Francisco is second in importance as a location to New York. They do the volume (here), and it's so self-contained," said Vikki Johnson of Johnson Hoke, a San Francisco retail leasing firm.


The Japanese cosmetics company Shu Uemura opened its second U.S. store on Fillmore Street in May, but business, not culture, drew the company here 10 years after opening its flagship in Manhattan's SoHo district.

Thirty percent of Shu's Internet sales ship to California, and 18 percent of the company's total Internet sales are to Northern California residents. It follows that the company would follow its strongest customers for the first stop on a planned national rollout.

Bliss, the 9-year-old New York spa and product line purchased by Starwood Hotels 18 months ago, will open its first spa outside New York and London in San Francisco's W Hotel on July 11. Fifteen percent of Bliss catalog sales come from California, and a "huge percentage" of those are in the Bay Area, said Tyler Morse, president of Bliss.

For Simon Pearce, a Vermont handblown glass and pottery company, just 6 percent of catalog and Internet orders come from California, but the preponderance of those are Bay Area sales. That motivated the 30-year-old company to open its 12th store on Fillmore Street later this summer -- its first beyond the eastern seaboard.

And when it opens later this month, Jonathan Adler's San Francisco boutique will be his first to feature a new furniture line as well as the pottery that stocks the shelves of five other Jonathan Adler stores.

For many of the newest retailers, San Francisco is merely an early stop on a national roll-out. This phenomenon has visited San Francisco before. Kiehl's, a New York-based beauty products company and designer Marc Jacobs both started their West Coast expansions in San Francisco. Kiehl's now has western stores from Santa Monica to Seattle, and Marc Jacobs has eight nationwide, including two in L.A.

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Retailers who choose San Francisco to launch their westward push cite the city's sensibility and diversity, its culture of early adopters, for their decision.

"I think San Francisco is a really strong market for a lot of these creative merchants," Pamela Mendelsohn of Johnson Hoke said. "And Union Square is too expensive," she added, explaining why stores like Shu Uemura and Jonathan Adler would choose a neighborhood street of boutiques rather than something more prime.

Three of these four East Coast transplants will open on Fillmore Street, which has competitive advantages. Even during the downturn, volume remained strong at Fillmore's shops, Mendelsohn said.

Another reason that stand-alone stores choose a less-obvious location than the blocks around the city's shopping heart is to avoid cannibalizing sales from other retailers that carry their brand.

Gump's has carried Simon Pearce glassware and pottery for years and it could hurt sales and the relationship to open a competing store nearby. Shu Uemura similarly has plans to open a boutique within Neiman Marcus once the Union Square department store's makeover is complete in 2006.

But not all of the freshmen fear competing with their existing local retail base. The Bliss spa in the W has a retail area, even though Neiman's, Saks and Sephora -- all clustered just blocks away -- carry Bliss products. Similarly, Jonathan Adler's pottery is sold at another boutique on Fillmore, mere blocks from the coming store.

Regardless of how they choose real estate, new retailers are emphatic in the attraction of San Francisco's shores.

"L.A. is so big and spread out, it's hard to figure out where (a merchant) fits into the picture," Mendelsohn said. San Francisco, by contrast, is an appealing place to dip a toe in West Coast retail.
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A person could shop at Ross and still look like a million bucks. on the other hand, a person could have a million bucks and look like crap(Paris Hilton). Its not where you shop, but how.
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why in san fancisco and not los angeles? they started at LA
They won't open one in LA for a long time. One of the designers said that if they were to ever open a boutique, that it would be elsewhere because they didn't want to compete against some of LA's independent stores that carried their brand from the very beginning and basically launched the brand's success.
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from today's san francisco chronicle:

Retail flourishing again in bustling Union Square
Fresh labels in place in newly energized S.F. shopping mecca
- Pia Sarkar, Chronicle Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 27, 2005




It took four years for Union Square to bounce back.

But today, San Francisco's famous shopping district looks as if it had never had a bad day. With new stores springing up and vacancy rates returning to normal levels, the streets are once again teeming with shoppers ready to throw down some cash.

"Union Square looks fantastic," said Helen Bulwik, a retail consultant in Oakland. "It is one of the top retail areas in the world."

Among the new stores that have opened this year are Zara, Borrelli, Stuart Weitzman Shoes, Lucky Brand Jeans and Cody's Books. But the biggest arrival has been H&M, which opened a store on Powell Street and another on Post Street in November to much fanfare.

"We expected there to be a huge response to the opening, but it was even bigger than we anticipated," H&M spokeswoman Lisa Sandberg said.

Four years ago, shoppers shied away from Union Square as the economy took a nosedive. The Sept. 11 terrorist attacks left people feeling cautious about travel, stripping Union Square of its high-spending tourists. Some retailers were forced to shutter for good. In 2003, FAO Schwarz closed its doors after more than 30 years of business in the area. Eddie Bauer also packed up and left Union Square.

"It's rare to see that much space at one time," said Kazuko Morgan of Cushman & Wakefield.

Morgan noted that a lot of businesses went bankrupt after the terrorist attacks and the dot-com bust, resulting in their disappearance from Union Square. Vacancy rates climbed to as high as 20 percent in 2002, according to Rhonda Diaz, vice president of Terranomics, a retail brokerage in San Francisco.

Today, vacancy rates have dropped to about 5 percent, still a bit higher than the historical average of 2 to 4 percent, Morgan said. Rents have maintained their usual rate of about $250 per square foot, with more than enough retailers willing to pay the price to be in Union Square these days.

With travel picking up again and the economy improving, Union Square is now responding to a lot of pent-up demand. "Retailers started to get serious about doing sales and opening stores," Diaz said.

New leases and store openings accounted for 125,000 square feet of Union Square retail space this year, Diaz said.

In February, Agent Provocateur plans to open a lingerie store on Geary Street, and Juicy Couture will unveil its women's apparel store in the spring. American Apparel has also signed a lease on Grant Avenue.

The most notable change to Union Square has been the parade of new stores that sell fast fashion at an affordable price, as opposed to the luxury stores that have long dominated the shopping district.


Forever 21 started the trend last year, with the opening of its 27,500-square foot store at Powell and Market streets. Zara opened its three-level store on Post Street in September. But H&M topped them all with its two new stores within blocks of each other, a 35,000-square-foot one on Powell Street and a 10,000-square-foot one on Post Street.

Seth Nodelman of Cushman Wakefield said the new stores have not replaced upscale shoppers with bargain hunters but have generated more traffic in Union Square overall.

Customers are drawn to the tight fashion cycles that Zara, Forever 21 and H&M have built their success on, Nodelman said. "It's definitely a new business model," he said. "It gives shoppers another reason to visit because (the clothing) changes so quickly."

As for the small businesses that once graced Union Square, Nodelman said that most have faded from the scene because of the high rents that only the big stores can afford to pay.

"That's been happening for 25 years," he said. "That's sad to see because it gives Union Square local flavor, but they've been priced out of the market. It's very hard for a local merchant to compete in that environment."

Among the exceptions is the independent bookseller from Berkeley, Cody's Books, which opened its two-level store on Stockton Street at the end of September. Business so far has been going well, said store manager Patrick Marks, although Cody's is still tweaking its fixtures and signage.

"It's wonderful," Marks said. "It's also a lot of work."
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I had a great time shopping in Union Square this Christmas. Well, except for being harassed by Scientologists in front of Macys. Isn't loitering illegal? All I know is, if a panhandler offered me a stress test, he'd be carted off to jail!!!

Awesome that Cody's Books has opened that store on Stockton. Now Stacey's is going to face some stiff local competition.
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A person could shop at Ross and still look like a million bucks. on the other hand, a person could have a million bucks and look like crap(Paris Hilton). Its not where you shop, but how.
I agree. like you said it doesn't matter if its from Ross, mossimo from Target or J Lo...who matters is the person who wears it. If the person can pull off apparels from kmart and wal mart then that person got the "it" but if you are Paris Hilton who makes Dior or Gucci look something a blind sunday school teacher sewn then you are "trashy" no matter what.
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They won't open one in LA for a long time. One of the designers said that if they were to ever open a boutique, that it would be elsewhere because they didn't want to compete against some of LA's independent stores that carried their brand from the very beginning and basically launched the brand's success.
Well this pretty much explains it.
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They won't open one in LA for a long time. One of the designers said that if they were to ever open a boutique, that it would be elsewhere because they didn't want to compete against some of LA's independent stores that carried their brand from the very beginning and basically launched the brand's success.

Juicy Couture was spawned and launched in LA by Fred Segal. So I guess that's why they don't have a free standing boutique.
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Great series of articles on SF retail. I like shopping in SF (and Chicago) more because it's more compact, and less crowded than NY.
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San Francisco Business Times

From the January 2, 2006 print edition
Preview: Retail
S.F.'s new shopping bag: Westfield, Bloomies

Sarah Duxbury
The Bay Area retail scene will be dominated by two names in 2006: Westfield and Bloomingdale's.

Come Fall, over 700,000 square feet of new retail space will be available in the heart of downtown on a historic site, ending years of speculation and waiting.

Foremost will be the new Bloomingdale's -- the chain's West Coast flagship and the fifth department store to grace the Union Square area.

Then there will be all the new stores and a nine-screen Century Theatres inside an expanded Westfield San Francisco Centre. Look for many new-to-market tenants, drawn by the prestige of the project and Westfield's clout in the retail world.

Among the big names who have yet to dip a toe in San Francisco's retail waters, but whom one would expect to see in the country's second-strongest retail market, are new concepts spun off by larger brands: Hollister and Ruehl, both owned by Abercrombie & Fitch; American Eagle's Martin + Osa, which will debut next fall; and Gap Inc.'s Forth & Towne. Numerous other stores in the new mall will be duplicates of stores already found in San Francisco.

Such a shopping hub will have a salutary effect on the entire area, and perhaps already has.

In 2005, Union Square came back. Rents are up, and so is occupancy. Even stretches that have never been particularly trendy, like Geary Street east of Grant Avenue, have a host of new boutiques luring Union Square shoppers south and east.

Just consider all the new-to-market tenants in 2005: H&M, Zara, Forever 21 and Stuart Weitzman, to name a few. That will continue in 2006, and not just in the new Westfield San Francisco Shopping Centre. After all, there's something special about a street presence, as the Juicy people made clear when they chose a building at Geary and Grant streets for their first flagship store, which will open in the spring.

Sarah Duxbury covers retail for the San Francisco Business Times.
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I had a chance to peruse the stacks at the new Cody's on Stockton--what an amazing bookstore. The space itself is fantastic--they literally carved out a big space for themselves downtown--and the selection is incredible. This is a major addition to the city's main shopping district.
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San Francisco Business Times

From the January 2, 2006 print edition
Preview: Retail
S.F.'s new shopping bag: Westfield, Bloomies

Sarah Duxbury
The Bay Area retail scene will be dominated by two names in 2006: Westfield and Bloomingdale's.

Come Fall, over 700,000 square feet of new retail space will be available in the heart of downtown on a historic site, ending years of speculation and waiting.

Foremost will be the new Bloomingdale's -- the chain's West Coast flagship and the fifth department store to grace the Union Square area.

Then there will be all the new stores and a nine-screen Century Theatres inside an expanded Westfield San Francisco Centre. Look for many new-to-market tenants, drawn by the prestige of the project and Westfield's clout in the retail world.

Among the big names who have yet to dip a toe in San Francisco's retail waters, but whom one would expect to see in the country's second-strongest retail market, are new concepts spun off by larger brands: Hollister and Ruehl, both owned by Abercrombie & Fitch; American Eagle's Martin + Osa, which will debut next fall; and Gap Inc.'s Forth & Towne. Numerous other stores in the new mall will be duplicates of stores already found in San Francisco.

Such a shopping hub will have a salutary effect on the entire area, and perhaps already has.

In 2005, Union Square came back. Rents are up, and so is occupancy. Even stretches that have never been particularly trendy, like Geary Street east of Grant Avenue, have a host of new boutiques luring Union Square shoppers south and east.

Just consider all the new-to-market tenants in 2005: H&M, Zara, Forever 21 and Stuart Weitzman, to name a few. That will continue in 2006, and not just in the new Westfield San Francisco Shopping Centre. After all, there's something special about a street presence, as the Juicy people made clear when they chose a building at Geary and Grant streets for their first flagship store, which will open in the spring.

Sarah Duxbury covers retail for the San Francisco Business Times.
I'm excited SF may be getting Hollister, Ruehl, Martin+Osa, and Forth + Towne. I'm assuming Forth and Towne will probably be a large flagship considering it's run by Gap. Let's hope these stores eat up those few remaining spaces along Post and Grant Streets. I've heard Banana Republic is opening a store in the new Westfield Centre (while keeping its flagship on Grant & Sutter). abercrombie kids, Express, and Pottery Barn are also looking for locations throughout Union Square.

Now only if Boston Properties could do something with the dismal state of the retail scene in the Embarcadero Centers.
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