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Old Posted Jul 6, 2026, 4:25 PM
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Don't think I've every had a really good or authentic Mexican -I wouldn't know, because hey, not enough Mexicans.

There was one taqueira in Brixton I used to go to, run by Mexicans, famed for over 100 ingredients. But once again -no flipping heat, and now gone. It was trendy but the low prices with high demand / high sourcing, made it utterly unsustainable for a small place.

Another one with rave reviews is Santo Remedio (notably it had an ant eggs option I think), run by a Mexico City couple and on its fourth branch - affordable and priding itself on authenticity. KOL is a Michelin starred one but I'd need to be rich to go there and unfortunately can only press my nose on the glass and watch.

I had Mexican in NYC and that was lovely (prawn thing in purple taco), though not like, a world away from London. But then I likely missed out on the 670 million restaurants that did more variety then our usual taco, burrito, wraps.
There's no such thing as "Mexican cuisine" to start with. There are very different sorts of cuisines depending if we talk about Northern Mexico (that's what the Americans, and I suppose also the Europeans, think of when they say "Mexican food"), or if we talk about the central altiplano of Mexico (where Mexico City is), or if we're talking about the Mayan lowlands. It's as different as Spanish and German food, even if there are some common things on the surface (beans, chili).

I lived in Mexico City, and I know the central Mexican cuisine the most. I've never really liked the northern Mexican cuisine that you can find in the US. Mayan lowland cuisine is an altogether entirely different thing (you cannot find it in Mexico City, or perhaps in some very specialized places that I was unaware of). By and large, however, the Mexican cuisine is not super sophisticated when compared to other cuisines, and when you live there, on a day to day basis, it's a bit repetitive, and not super refined (although there are one or two treats from the central altiplano that I really liked, but can't find outside Mexico).

It cannot possibly be compared with Chinese, Japanese, Indian, French, or Italian food.

In Paris we have a few Mexican restaurants. I went to one that was supposed to have authentic cuisine from central Mexico (not Tex-Mex), it was expensive and I was disappointed compared to what I ate in Mexico.

In general it's always very hard to find authentic cuisine outside of the home country. Even Chinese cuisine is never as good in Europe and North America as when you go to China (although I have to say I find Chinese cuisine in the US better than in Europe, but even Chinese cuisine in the US is adapted and not as good as in China). A Chinese friend of mine who lived in Chicago was agreeing with me: he said he could never find authentic Chinese cuisine in Chicago as good as in China. Once he went to a super expensive Chinese restaurant in Chicago, he ordered a famous classic Chinese dish (can't remember which one), and at the end he called the chef to scold him (in Chinese), because that was really not what he was expecting, it was quite inferior to the same treat in China (although perhaps for you and me it would still have been a very good dish).

For example take gongbao jiding (Kung Pao chicken I believe they call it in North America). I had the best in Taiwan, it was simply delicious. I could never find similarly good ones in either North American or Europe (the worst I had was in Germany). So now I don't even bother ordering that anymore.
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There's no such thing as "Mexican cuisine" to start with. There are very different sorts of cuisines depending if we talk about Northern Mexico (that's what the Americans, and I suppose also the Europeans, think of when they say "Mexican food"),
No. Tex-Mex food isn't Northern Mexican food. Tex-Mex food is an American creation, like BBQ or soul food.

Excluding birria, it's relatively uncommon to see Northern Mexican food in the U.S. You're much more likely to see Poblano or Oaxacan or even Sinaloan mariscos restaurants. There's carne asada but that's really everywhere in Mexico now.
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if we talk about Northern Mexico (that's what the Americans think of when they say "Mexican food")
That's not really true in chicago.

There are some 1.7M people of Mexican ancestry in Chicagoland (~20% of total), and roughly 3/4 of them can trace their roots back to Michoacan, Jalisco, and/or Gaunajuato (the big 3), so the reference point of "Mexican food" here is not Tex-Mex, but the food those hundreds of thousands of immigrants brought here from that west central region of Mexico.
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There are likely many Algerian restaurants, but they're marketed as North African or Maghreb or even Middle Eastern restaurants. Algerian food has a poor reputation, so you're unlikely to see such restaurants
There are relatively few North African restaurants in Paris, compared to the size of the North African communities, and most of the North African restaurants are Moroccan.

Moroccan food is the most present in France in the North African category (Algerian and Tunisian food are barely present at all).

But again, by and large, there aren't many North African restaurants. For example I don't know any in my neighborhood. I don't even know where the closest would be. The closest I can think of is in Montmartre, which is more than half an hour from where I live.

In my parents' town in the south of France, where there is a large Moroccan community (they honked their cars at night the other day when Morocco won its last-16 match), I don't even know any Moroccan restaurant. I'm not even sure there is one.

There are various Vietnamese restaurants, despite the fact the Vietnamese community in my parents' town is much much smaller than the Moroccan community.

In Paris you'll see lots of kebab (Turks), but few North African restaurants, despite the fact the Turkish community is 11 times smaller than the North African community. I have one (extortionately expensive) kebab restaurant in my street.

In general the North African immigrants eat at home, and their children born in France either eat in Turkish kebabs, or in fast food restaurants serving junk food (recently, there's been an epidemic of "fried chicken" restaurants popping up everywhere, with the far-left saying this is the "New France", whereas the right-wingers denounce this as the destruction of French cuisine).

So there you go, very few North African restaurants, and instead the children of North African immigrants frequenting all these new "fried chicken" fast food restaurants with terrible names (such as "Master Poulet" or "Tasty Crousty") that sound and feel English but are not ("Crousty" is just the French adjective "croustillant" that was turned into a supposedly English noun to make it more trendy for these kids, "croustillant" means "crispy, crunchy").

Mass rampage at the opening of one of these fast food "fried chicken" restaurants:

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1 hour and 30 minutes of queue at a Tasty Crousty in Cergy (an ethnic suburb of Paris):



Last month (or was it the month before?), there was a political fight between the Magheban (Moroccan parents) Socialist mayor of Saint-Ouen and the new Black African (Malian parents) far-left mayor of Saint-Denis (both cities share a border) because the mayor of Saint-Ouen wanted to prevent the opening of a "Master Poulet" establishment in his city, denouncing it as junk food being forced on the working classes, and the mayor of Saint-Denis criticized that, saying that the mayor of Saint-Ouen was just a bourgeois not in touch with the younger ethnic generations bla bla bla.

Seen from my spared corner of the western Haussmannian districts, I find that pretty amusing (and a bit sad also).

In a nutshell: no North African restaurants. That's not the culinary scene here. Right now it's all about kebabs and fried chicken whatever for these communities.
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There's carne asada but that's really everywhere in Mexico now.
I don't remember that in Mexico City.

Also, it's important to distinguish the "tourist experience" and the "everyday experience".

Everyday life in Mexico City is gonna be: some meat with beans and rice on the side, and some maize/corn small tortillas that you use as bread.

That's what the canteen in front of our office served most days. Very little chili (chili sauces is more something they serve in restaurants).

And at home, it's essentially chicken breast, or pork (I used to make stews with chicken and some tropical vegetables from Mexico unknown in Europe). Mexican grocery stores have very little meat offering. Chicken and pork (and not tasty pork like in China). They also sell chorizo, but it's very unlike the Spanish chorizo. In Mexico you have to cook the chorizo.

In general, I tended to overcook all my meat (especially pork), because I didn't really trust their meat.

Where Mexico is good is for fruits and vegetables, but especially fruits. You have an immense variety of tropical fruits in supermarkets, lots of different species of very good mangoes (not the one unsavory species that you can find in European supermarkets). And they have lots of different varieties of avocados (Mexico is the home country of avocados, which is actually an Aztec word, ahuacatl in the Nahuatl language of the Aztecs). If you ask them, they slice the avocado for you so you can taste it and see if it's ripe enough and good for you. I was blown away the first time my landlady (an old Mexican women) took me to a supermarket and showed me you could ask them to cut them open for you to check how they are (that would be absolutely IMPOSSIBLE in France, and I believe also in the US... you cut it open, you pay for it... well not in Mexico).

At almost every street corner in Mexico City you can find stalls on the sidewalk that prepare freshly squeezed fruit juice for you on demand (you pick the fruits you want them to mix for you... personally I always ordered orange, pineapple and guavas, the perfect combination I find). That was really great. You can pick one in the morning on your way to work.

But appart from the fruits and vegetables, frankly, as a Frenchman, I was always appalled by the lack of choice in the grocery stores.

And if you live in Mexico, you really have to like corn/maize. I don't really like it, but I can eat it. But it's never as good as a good crunchy French bread (which you can forget about in Mexico, their bread is as awful as in Spain).

Another thing: I cannot recall ever having eaten fish in Mexico City. There really isn't any, despite the fact it used to be a big lake before urbanization of the valley.

And they really eat beans all the time, it's not just a cliché. I've never been that much into beans...

There are a few common odd stuff that can be hard for a foreigner, such as the slimy cactus leaves (which they put in the salad, and which I could eat only very slowwwwly otherwise I would throw up ), or chicken feet in a corn/maize soup that is very popular in the central altiplano (I had it once or twice, but yeah, not the most refined dish around).

And then there were some super good stuff that you can find only in Mexico, like huitlacoche tacos (you can buy them hot in the street markets of Mexico city, but you can also find the huitlacoche in the supermarkets, although when you live in Mexico City, in the central areas, without a car, it's hard to go to the supermarkets, which are located far away, so you most often shop in local grocery stores where they don't have huitlacoche, and the lack of variety in terms of food in those local grocery stores is a bit appalling like I've said).

It's also possible to find some excellent grilled meat tacos with onion and chili that they serve from food trucks here and there. It's dirt cheap and very good. But for me the most Mexican thing of all was to see every morning at the corner from our office these three Aztec-looking women with wrinkled faces cooking large corn/maize tortillas on iron stoves (like old iron barrels reused as stoves) right on the sidewalk. I never figured out what they were used for, as there was only tortillas, no stuffing, and I never bought any from them. Perhaps people buy it like they would buy bread at the bakery in France.
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That's not really true in chicago.

There are some 1.7M people of Mexican ancestry in Chicagoland (~20% of total), and roughly 3/4 of them can trace their roots back to Michoacan, Jalisco, and/or Gaunajuato (the big 3), so the reference point of "Mexican food" here is not Tex-Mex, but the food those hundreds of thousands of immigrants brought here from that west central region of Mexico.
Can't say, as I've never been to Chicago (except landing at one of Chicago's airports once), but in California the Mexican food is essentially the Tex-Mex sort, and it's meh...
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nyc metro area?

i dk what that is? ive seen it from jersey shore past newark to scranton to danbury to new haven, and god knows how far upstate people count.

csa? msa?

wiki has it at over 6k sq miles, whatever it is.

i find it hard to believe there are only 2M+ more foreign born than the 10x smaller 600 sq mi. of greater london.

what gives? i would guess these vast areas surrounding the 300 sq mi of new york city have far more foreign born than just the city, no?

i understand we cant easily do apples to apples here, just trying to clarify the types of apples.
It's the Metropolitan Statistical Area (6000 sq miles). When the Census Bureau says "Metro Area" on their page that's what they mean.

And it does have "far more foreign born" than just the city. There's roughly 3 million in the 5 boroughs, 6 million in the Metro.
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Can't say, as I've never been to Chicago (except landing at one of Chicago's airports once), but in California the Mexican food is essentially the Tex-Mex sort, and it's meh...
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Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA Metro Area (2024 5-year estimates):

Foreign born 4,241,513

Europe 226,394
Asia 1,699,738
Africa 79,680
Oceania 21,194
Americas 2,214,507

Mexico 1,433,688
Philippines 282,981
El Salvador 279,341
Vietnam 252,027
China 239,945
Korea 204,326
Guatemala 198,245
Iran 139,936
India 93,805
Taiwan 83,614
Armenia 79,683
Japan 47,827
United Kingdom 45,537
Honduras 41,799
Canada 41,500
Hong Kong 34,129
Peru 32,680
Russia 30,264
Colombia 30,009
Nicaragua 28,243
Cambodia 26,728
Egypt 23,282
Thailand 23,040
Germany 21,250
Ukraine 19,879
Brazil 19,237
Israel 17,659
Syria 16,256
Indonesia 16,190
Cuba 15,257
Argentina 14,758
Nigeria 13,742
France 13,538
Ecuador 13,494
Pakistan 13,184
Belize 12,620
Italy 10,977
Bangladesh 10,973
Romania 10,084
Turkey 9,991
Australia 9,924
Afghanistan 8,798
South Africa 8,442
Iraq 8,422
Venezuela 8,221
Ethiopia 7,695
Poland 7,654
Chile 7,593
Jordan 6,517
Jamaica 6,222
Malaysia 5,904
Belize 5,876
Costa Rica 5,736
Netherlands 5,356
Spain 5,251
Sri Lanka 5,246

#50000+: 11
#20000+: 24
#10000+: 39
#5000: 56

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Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN Metro Area (2024 5-year estimates):

Foreign born 1,744,561

Europe 352,531
Asia 516,453
Africa 70,740
Americas 800,155

Mexico 615,888
India 153,413
Poland 118,037
Philippines 87,935
China 63,636
Ukraine 36,702
Korea 34,994
Pakistan 30,340
Nigeria 21,638
Guatemala 21,459
Colombia 20,882
Ecuador 19,335
Venezuela 18,835
Vietnam 17,901
Canada 16,965
Russia 16,144
United Kingdom 15,997
Germany 15,780
Honduras 13,837
Romania 13,659
Bulgaria 13,560
Italy 13,336
Iraq 11,867
Greece 10,586
Bosnia and Herzegovina 10,547
Lithuania 10,264
El Salvador 10,234
Peru 9,405
Jordan 8,807
Japan 8,782
Brazil 8,301
Jamaica 7,926
Taiwan 7,925
Serbia 7,680
Iran 7,236
Albania 6,839
Thailand 6,175
Belarus 5,935
France 5,906
Moldova 5,809
Syria 5,791

# 50000+: 5
# 20000+: 11
# 10000+: 27
# 5000+: 42

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Interesting that there is so much more Ecuadorian food in Chicago than Romanian food (when Romania + Moldova ~= Ecuador). As a Romanian this is annoying .
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This was on my computer, maybe it could be useful here, Urban Areas with 25,000+ Foreign Born Persons.

Urban Area---------------% Foreign Born, 2024:
Miami------------------------43.7%
San Jose---------------------43.2%
Salinas, CA------------------38.0%
San Francisco----------------34.5%
Los Angeles------------------34.2%
Kissimmee--------------------33.2%
Tracy-Mountain House, CA-----32.1%
New York---------------------31.4%
Livermore-Pleasanton, CA-----31.1%
Stockton, CA-----------------28.7%
Vallejo, CA------------------28.6%
Santa Maria, CA--------------28.3%
Houston----------------------27.9%
Washington DC----------------27.8%
Brownsville------------------27.7%
Trenton----------------------27.5%
Antioch, CA------------------26.7%
Oxnard-----------------------26.6%
Concord-Walnut Creek, CA-----25.7%
McAllen----------------------25.7%

Santa Clarita, CA------------24.8%
Riverside--------------------24.4%
San Diego--------------------24.4%
Four Corners, FL-------------24.3%
McKinney-Frisco, TX----------24.3%
Mission Viejo-Lake Forest, CA24.1%
Seattle----------------------23.8%
Indio-Palm Desert, CA--------23.7%
Laredo-----------------------23.7%
Palmdale-Lancaster-----------23.1%
Bridgeport-Stamford----------22.9%
Honolulu---------------------22.9%
Boston-----------------------22.8%
Las Vegas--------------------22.8%
Cape Coral-------------------22.5%
Orlando----------------------22.4%
El Paso----------------------22.3%
Sacramento-------------------22.2%
Dallas-----------------------22.1%
Gilroy-Morgan Hill, CA-------22.1%
Fairfield, CA----------------21.8%
Modesto, CA------------------21.8%
Worcester--------------------21.8%
Hemet, CA--------------------21.7%
Yuba City, CA----------------21.4%
Danbury, CT------------------21.3%
Bakersfield, CA--------------21.0%
Chicago----------------------20.4%
Simi Valley------------------20.3%
Bonita Springs, FL(Naples)---20.2%
Merced-----------------------20.1%
Austin-----------------------20.0%
Thousand Oaks, CA------------19.8%
Fresno-----------------------19.4%
The Woodlands, TX------------19.1%
Phoenix West-----------------18.9%
Santa Rosa, CA---------------18.8%
Port St Lucie----------------18.6%
Santa Barbara----------------18.5%
Champaign, IL----------------18.3%
Atlanta----------------------18.2%
Denton-Lewisville, TX--------18.1%
Gainesville, GA--------------17.9%
Odessa-----------------------17.8%
Yuma-------------------------17.8%
Temecula, CA-----------------17.7%
Charlotte--------------------17.3%
Reading----------------------17.3%
Victorville, CA--------------17.3%
Winter Haven, FL-------------17.2%
Raleigh----------------------17.1%
Frederick, MD----------------16.9%
Tampa------------------------16.8%
Visalia, CA------------------16.7%
Providence-------------------16.6%
Reno-------------------------16.4%
Ann Arbor--------------------15.9%
Durham-----------------------15.9%
Hartford---------------------15.7%
Kennewick-Richland-----------15.6%
Waterbury, CT----------------15.5%
Bradenton-Sarasota-----------15.4%
San Antonio------------------15.4%
Atlantic City----------------15.3%
Fayetteville, AR-------------15.3%
New Haven--------------------15.2%
Phoenix----------------------14.6%
Portland, OR-----------------14.6%
Salt Lake City---------------14.5%
Round Lake Beach, IL---------14.4%
Denver-----------------------14.3%
Poughkeepsie-----------------14.3%
Allentown-Bethlehem----------14.2%
Nashville--------------------13.9%
Baltimore--------------------13.8%
Minneapolis------------------13.7%
Tucson-----------------------13.7%
Concord, NC------------------13.6%
Salem, OR--------------------13.6%
Greensboro-------------------13.4%
Lexington--------------------13.3%
Gainesville, FL--------------13.0%
Jacksonville-----------------13.0%
Lakeland, FL-----------------13.0%
Columbus---------------------12.9%
Philadelphoa-----------------12.9%
Detroit----------------------12.8%
College Station--------------12.5%
Indianapolis-----------------12.5%
Ocala------------------------12.5%
Anchorage--------------------12.4%
Port Charlotte---------------12.4%
Navarre-Miramar Beach--------12.2%
Albany-Schenectady-----------11.4%
Madison----------------------11.2%
Nashua-----------------------11.1%
Des Moines-------------------10.9%
Richmond---------------------10.9%
Lansing----------------------10.7%
Rockford---------------------10.7%
New Orleans------------------10.6%
Palm Bay-Melbourne-----------10.6%
Syracuse---------------------10.6%
Harrisburg-------------------10.5%
Oklahoma City----------------10.5%
Omaha------------------------10.5%
Winston-Salem----------------10.5%
Lincoln----------------------10.2%
Corpus Christi---------------10.1%
Daytona Beach----------------10.1%
Provo------------------------10.1%
Savannah---------------------10.1%
Tulsa------------------------10.0%
Wichita----------------------10.0%
Louisville--------------------9.9%
Springfield, MA---------------9.9%
Kansas City-------------------9.7%
Davenport---------------------9.4%
Grand Rapids------------------9.3%
Greenville, SC----------------9.2%
Ft Wayne----------------------9.1%
Scranton----------------------9.0%
Buffalo, NY-------------------8.9%
Milwaukee---------------------8.7%
Rochester, NY-----------------8.7%
Columbia, SC------------------8.4%
Colorado Springs--------------8.2%
Lancaster, PA-----------------8.0%
Virginia Beach----------------7.8%
Charleston, SC----------------7.6%
Chattanooga-------------------7.6%
Memphis-----------------------7.5%
Cleveland---------------------7.4%
Cincinnati--------------------7.3%
Fayetteville, NC--------------7.3%
Ogden-------------------------7.3%
Boise City--------------------7.2%
Myrtle Beach------------------7.2%
Akron-------------------------7.1%
St Louis----------------------6.9%
Little Rock-------------------6.6%
Baton Rouge-------------------6.1%
Spokane-----------------------7.0%
Birmingham--------------------5.9%
Pittsburgh--------------------5.8%
Dayton------------------------5.7%
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I assumed you didn't know that. That's why I posted it.

"Mexican food" does not automatically equal Tex-Mex in the US.

Maybe it does in a lot of places, but not everywhere.
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This was on my computer, maybe it could be useful here, Urban Areas with 25,000+ Foreign Born Persons.

Urban Area---------------% Foreign Born, 2024:
Miami------------------------43.7%
San Jose---------------------43.2%
Salinas, CA------------------38.0%
San Francisco----------------34.5%
Los Angeles------------------34.2%
Here is the percentage of foreign-born in the metro areas of the OECD in 2021 (harmonized definition of the metro areas, i.e. the FUAs):
- Luxembourg City: 49.8%
- Geneva (Swiss part only): 49.7%
- Toronto: 42.7%
- Vancouver: 41.9%
- Miami: 40.4%
- Lausanne: 39.7%
- Sydney: 38.3%
- Melbourne: 35.2%
- Perth (Australia): 34.7%
- Zurich: 33.6%
- San Francisco: 33.3%
- Basel (Swiss part only): 32.8%
- London: 30.6%
- Calgary: 29.8%
- The Hague: 29.8%
- Los Angeles: 29.6%
- New York: 28.8%
- Frankfurt: 28.6%
- Gold Coast (Australia): 28.5%
- Adelaide: 27.3%
- Brisbane: 26.7%
- Munich: 26.4%
- Stockholm: 26.1%
- Edmonton: 25.7%
- Stuttgart: 25.7%
- Brussels: 25.2%
- Oslo: 23.4%
- Houston: 23.3%
- Montréal: 22.9%
- San Diego: 22.7%
- Cologne: 21.9%
- Amsterdam: 21.6%
- Rotterdam: 21.5%
- Berlin: 21.4%
- Hamburg: 21.2%
- Essen-Ruhr: 21.1%
- Boston: 20.8%
- Ottawa: 20.6%
- Madrid: 20.6%
- Barcelona: 20.6%
- Antwerp: 19.8%
- Paris: 19.8% (but 21.5% if the people born in the overseas departments and territories are included)
- Seattle: 19.5%
- Copenhagen: 19.0%
- Washington-Baltimore: 19.0%
- Reykjavík: 18.3%
- Tampa-Hillsborough: 18.3%
- Dallas: 18.2%
- Chicago: 17.7%
- Tallinn: 17.3%
- Lisbon: 16.2%
- Birmingham-West Midlands: 16.1%
- Valencia: 15.4%
- Nice: 15.2%
- Austin: 15.2%
- Atlanta: 14.8%
- Florence: 14.5%
- Phoenix: 14.0%
- Riga: 13.9%
- Zagreb: 13.7%
- Milan: 13.6%
- Helsinki: 13.2%
- Manchester: 13.2%
- Athens: 13.2%
- Rome: 13.0%
- Portland (Oregon): 12.9%
- Lyon: 12.5%
- Raleigh: 12.5%
- Prague: 12.1%
- Denver: 12.0%
- Philadelphia: 11.9%
- Charlotte: 11.9%
- Turin: 11.8%
- San Antonio (TX): 11.7%
- Tampa-Pinellas: 11.6%
- Marseille: 11.4% (contrary to clichés)
- Minneapolis: 10.8%
- Halifax: 10.7%
- Bilbao: 10.6%
- Toulouse: 10.4%
- Leeds: 10.3%
- Glasgow: 10.1%
- Detroit: 10.1%
- Jacksonville: 9.4%
- Nashville: 9.2%
- Columbus: 8.9%
- Vilnius: 8.5%
- Lille: 8.4%
- Budapest: 8.4%
- Bordeaux: 8.3%
- New Orleans: 7.7%
- Liverpool: 7.6%
- Milwaukee: 7.5%
- Indianapolis: 7.4%
- Porto: 6.9%
- Québec City: 6.3%
- Seville: 6.1%
- Memphis: 5.6%
- Pittsburgh: 5.5%
- Bratislava: 5.3%
- Cincinnati: 5.3%
- St. Louis: 5.1%
- Naples (Italy): 4.4%
- Gdańsk: 4.4%
- Warsaw: 4.3%
- Palermo: 4.0%
- Krakow: 3.5%
- Sofia: 2.7%
- Billings (Montana): 1.9%
- Mahoning Valley (Ohio): 1.9%
- Katowice (Poland): 1.7%
- Gniezno (Poland): 1.2%
- Radom (Poland): 1.1%
- Rybnik (Poland): 1.0%
- Płock (Poland): 0.9%
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Chicagoland has over twice as many Mexican nationals as NY metro? Wow.
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Chicagoland has over twice as many Mexican nationals as NY metro? Wow.
Chicagoland is the most Mexican place in the US outside of the traditional southwest border states (that literally used to be a part of Mexico).

That fact takes many by surprise because Chicago is over 1,000 miles from the border (and roughly 1,700 miles from west central Mexico where most came from), but the numbers don't lie.

Mexicans now constitute the 5th great chicago ethnic in-migration after the Germans, then the Irish, then African Americans and Poles. Nearly 1 in 5 people in Chicagoland now have Mexican Ancestry. And if you just count the under-30s, it's probably closer to 1 in 4.
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The Mexican population is also a lot more long-established in Chicago, for a long time it was pretty much unique outside the West and Texas in this respect. Up until the 90s there was very little Mexican presence in New York.
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The Mexican population is also a lot more long-established in Chicago, for a long time it was pretty much unique outside the West and Texas in this respect. Up until the 90s there was very little Mexican presence in New York.
Yeah, Chicago's first tortilla factory opened back in 1950, which was possibly the first US tortilla factory outside of the border states.
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Can't say, as I've never been to Chicago (except landing at one of Chicago's airports once), but in California the Mexican food is essentially the Tex-Mex sort, and it's meh...
I've never heard anyone say this in my life
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Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL Metro Area (2024 5-year estimates)

Foreign born 2,647,319

Europe 150,821
Asia 138,590
Africa 24,825
Americas 2,330,702

Cuba 793,143
Haiti 233,960
Colombia 207,049
Venezuela 188,545
Jamaica 143,128
Nicaragua 93,238
Mexico 71,112
Honduras 69,890
Brazil 69,696
Dominican Republic 67,489
Peru 66,078
Guatemala 59,967
Argentina 46,851
Canada 34,750
Ecuador 32,175
El Salvador 31,689
India 25,856
Trinidad and Tobago 23,451
China 18,339
United Kingdom 18,088
Chile 17,079
Russia 16,896
Philippines 14,552
Spain 14,070
Italy 13,696
Vietnam 12,307
Uruguay 11,643
Guyana 11,592
Bahamas 11,515
France 11,398
Germany 11,339
Israel 10,614
Panama 10,340
Ukraine 10,275
Costa Rica 9,155
Poland 7,032
Romania 6,624
Pakistan 6,377
Bangladesh 6,229
Turkey 5,775
Bolivia 5,502

# 50000+: 12
# 20000+: 18
# 10000+: 34
# 5000+: 41

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