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Mr Tall Forehead · #21 Posted **Feb 5, 2025, 8:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jammon

This whole thing is a mess. I curl at Granite and the messaging we received was directly related to the parking issue. If they lose the west lot, it will really impair parking and they could potentially lose members if the perception is that it is difficult to find parking. I curl on Sundays and they have a full 10 sheets used starting at 11:30, 1:30 and 4 PM. If there are 8 people per sheet, that's potentially 80 vehicles per shift. That doesn't account for overlap with teams coming and going or staying for food or beverage. So, I understand the parking issue from a business perspective, but they are trying to develop something they don't even own. What a joke.

A lot of curling clubs don't have anywhere near that much parking (Fort Rouge, Heather, Elmwood) and as others have noted, there is a giant parking lot across the street. Figure it out. This is definitely not a good look for the Granite exec.

FactaNV · #22 Posted **Feb 5, 2025, 9:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Having lived in the area years ago, I don't recall the curling club parking lot being at maximum capacity much at all. In addition, there is street parking. Not sure about Canada Life, but if so, its only a 2-3 minute walk away.

Sounds like the curling club are being difficult.

I currently live in the neighbourhood and agree with your assessment.

bussche · #23 Posted **Feb 5, 2025, 9:55 PM**

Looks like the Granite Board is pulling out all the NIMBY stops and has Heritage Winnipeg batting for them now too.

https://heritagewinnipeg.com/news/granite-curling-club/

pspeid · #24 Posted **Feb 6, 2025, 12:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by bussche

Looks like the Granite Board is pulling out all the NIMBY stops and has Heritage Winnipeg batting for them now too.

https://heritagewinnipeg.com/news/granite-curling-club/

I just read the comments people have been leaving on the Heritage Winnipeg facebook page, and (so far) they're universally in favour of the residential development. I don't think the Board is going to get the citizen uprising they appear to be hoping for.

BlackDog204 · #25 Posted **Feb 6, 2025, 5:14 AM**

Here is an interesting post from a member of the GCC on their Facebook page:

"Many members of the club, including me, support the proposed affordable housing beside the Granite. Members may use the largest surface parking lot in downtown Winnipeg, which is right across the street if they must (drink and) drive. The reasons for their objection to the development is both racist and classist. I’ve heard many horrible things from the mouths of members in relation to the development.

Please support the project, people before parking lots! Have humanity during these cold, winter months!
PS I remember at your last AGM you said that you support Indigenous peoples and histories in Winnipeg. Indigenous peoples are disproportionately represented in the unhoused population. Housing is needed! Supporting low income housing developments demonstrates a commitment to finding solutions for peoples that need help and deserve dignity."

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Sounds like many members of the GCC are a bunch of elitist assholes...

trueviking · #26 Posted **Feb 6, 2025, 5:44 AM**

Man. Heritage Winnipeg is out to lunch there. UWCC will be providing a stable source of income to maintain the heritage building. What curling club wouldn’t kill for that. This should be celebrated by heritage advocates.

Biff · #27 Posted **Feb 6, 2025, 2:41 PM**

Sounds like the Manitoba Club all over again.

Biff · #28 Posted **Feb 6, 2025, 4:00 PM**

I actually have changed my tune and am now on the side of blocking this development.

I periodically get take out sushi from Wasabi on Broadway and like to park in that parking lot and eat it. This new building will affect my happiness.

Malcsta · #29 Posted **Feb 6, 2025, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

I actually have changed my tune and am now on the side of blocking this development.

I periodically get take out sushi from Wasabi on Broadway and like to park in that parking lot and eat it. This new building will affect my happiness.

Not to worry. I used to do this exact thing until I discovered Yujiro. Now I don't feel the need to support the owner of Wasabi and his questionable serivce-industry habits. The sushi is much better, too.

Biff · #30 Posted **Feb 6, 2025, 7:00 PM**

Yujiro is my favorite in town as well.

WinCitySparky · #31 Posted **Feb 6, 2025, 10:41 PM**

Noted will hit it next sushi jam

pspeid · #32 Posted **Feb 7, 2025, 2:09 AM**

From CBC News website tonight:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...club-1.7452879

ColdRain&Snow · #33 Posted **Feb 7, 2025, 3:17 AM**

I'm still a bit confused by the whole thing, but it seems like the public hearing took 10 hours and in the end the Standing Policy Committee on Property and Development voted 2-2 for/against the subdivision and rezoning, therefore the subdivision and rezoning application moves to the Executive Policy Committee without a recommendation. Hopefully I got that all correct haha.

Winnipeg Grump · #34 Posted **Feb 7, 2025, 2:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by pspeid

From CBC News website tonight:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...club-1.7452879

There's something about all of the attendees in the gallery for the hearing but I can't qwhite put it into words.

pspeid · #35 Posted **Feb 7, 2025, 2:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

I'm still a bit confused by the whole thing, but it seems like the public hearing took 10 hours and in the end the Standing Policy Committee on Property and Development voted 2-2 for/against the subdivision and rezoning, therefore the subdivision and rezoning application moves to the Executive Policy Committee without a recommendation. Hopefully I got that all correct haha.

Hopefully the EPC just votes in favour of it and stops all this nonsense.

Mr Tall Forehead · #36 Posted **Feb 7, 2025, 2:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

I'm still a bit confused by the whole thing, but it seems like the public hearing took 10 hours and in the end the Standing Policy Committee on Property and Development voted 2-2 for/against the subdivision and rezoning, therefore the subdivision and rezoning application moves to the Executive Policy Committee without a recommendation. Hopefully I got that all correct haha.

So who voted against? Wyatt would be one I would assume...

bomberjet · #37 Posted **Feb 7, 2025, 3:18 PM**

10 hours of debate on this one topic?? It's a bloody curling rink in which the City owns the property because they went broke.

trueviking · #38 Posted **Feb 7, 2025, 3:24 PM**

It was a wild finish. Wyatt proposed that an amendment be made to the motion that said, a development permit would only be issued if a parking plan could be created by the proponent, that met the approval of the Granite Board - who just spent ten hours saying they didn't want a development. Otherwise, the rezoning would be rejected. Of course, the public service was like, we don't usually tie development permits on city owned land to the judgement of a lease tenant of a city owned property. Santos and Duncan voted it down so then Wyatt and Schreyer voted down the original motion and it died.

It was crazy because the head of the board guy came up first and said, we don't care about parking anymore, we want the land so we can develop it ourselves...then 30 people came up including other board members and yelled that they might as well close the club if the parking was lost.

bussche · #39 Posted **Feb 7, 2025, 3:32 PM**

Amazing that the Granite Curling club members and board can literally see homeless encampments from the parking lot in question, but are against affordable housing. That's a special kind of callousness.

pspeid · #40 Posted **Feb 7, 2025, 4:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by bussche

Amazing that the Granite Curling club members and board can literally see homeless encampments from the parking lot in question, but are against affordable housing. That's a special kind of callousness.

Those homeless people don't threaten their parking.