BC Political Discussion: Election 2024 & 43rd Parliament

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Ozabald

Anti-higher education! LOL. It was the BC Liberals that invested big $$$ in BC universities during their time in office. UBC was pretty long in the tooth in the late 1990's.

And then Christy Clark came along and slashed their funding.

Originally Posted by chowhou

I think it's pretty undeniable that the BC Conservative party has no love for transgender individuals, but let's not pretend that means they have no room for the LGB part of the acronym.

Generally speaking, the people who’re allergic to one letter are often allergic to all the other letters.

[sunsetmountainland]

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Interesting video with Wyatt Claypool related to this topic.

[CanSpice]

Looks like the Conservative Party of BC is picking up another MLA from BC United:

NEW -@KevinFalcon tells @simisara980 that he expects @elenoresturko to cross the floor today to the @Conservative_BC and calls it a “personal betrayal” and that he is shocked and disappointed.

To add to the drama, Paul Ratchford, the Conservative candidate for Vancouver-Point Grey said Sturko is a "woke, lesbian, social justice warrior" and a "groomer". Hope they like being on the same team!

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by CanSpice

Looks like the Conservative Party of BC is picking up another MLA from BC United:



To add to the drama, Paul Ratchford, the Conservative candidate for Vancouver-Point Grey said Sturko is a "woke, lesbian, social justice warrior" and a "groomer". Hope they like being on the same team!

That's a surprise as the last place I'd expect a lesbian mom to feel comfortable is with Rustad's Conservatives. Big win for them (and it is confirmed)

BREAKING

Surrey MLA Elenore Sturko defects, joins BC Conservatives
Wednesday January 3, 2024. (CityNews Image)
By Charlie Carey

Posted June 3, 2024 9:01 am. Last Updated June 3, 2024 10:25 am.
The official opposition’s run-up to the next election took another hit Monday, as Surrey South MLA Elenore Sturko confirmed she is defecting and joining the BC Conservatives.

Sturko, elected in 2022 under BC United, is just the latest gain for the Conservatives, after United Caucus Chair Lorne Doerkson, who represents Cariboo-Chilcotin, defected on Friday.


In a statement shared by the Conservatives, the former RCMP officer explained she is defecting to “rebuild the coalition that’s needed to defeat the NDP.”....

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/06/03/surrey-mla-elenore-sturko-joins-bc-conservatives/

[chowhou]

I think it's pretty undeniable that the BC Conservative party has no love for transgender individuals, but let's not pretend that means they have no room for the LGB part of the acronym.

Vice versa, you also can't assume that being part of the LGB part of the acronym means you have love for the T part as well.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by chowhou

I think it's pretty undeniable that the BC Conservative party has no love for transgender individuals, but let's not pretend that means they have no room for the LGB part of the acronym.

Vice versa, you also can't assume that being part of the LGB part of the acronym means you have love for the T part as well.

Yeah it's almost as if there are individuals out there, not some collective that signs off on the 500 point plan to be a member of the LGBTQ2+ group.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by chowhou

I think it's pretty undeniable that the BC Conservative party has no love for transgender individuals, but let's not pretend that means they have no room for the LGB part of the acronym.

Vice versa, you also can't assume that being part of the LGB part of the acronym means you have love for the T part as well.

Weeell, there is stuff like this:

Rob Shaw: Do the BC Conservatives have a vetting problem or a judgment problem?
BC Conservatives under the microscope after candidate's controversial exit
Rob Shaw
May 31, 2024

BC Conservatives are chalking up the resignation of their Courtenay-Comox candidate over homophobic social media posts to a failure in vetting. The more concerning problem for the surging party, however, is the failures it showed in judgement.

Leader John Rustad said the party’s vetting system failed to catch the social media posts of candidate Damon Scrase because, until recently, it relied mostly on party staff to comb through candidate backgrounds on top of their day-to-day duties.

“Damon had put out a number of tweets, unfortunately, that had been scrubbed from the net before we got to the vetting process,” Rustad told me.

“So we were unaware of the information that was on there.”

That’s not quite accurate, however.

Most of Scrase’s posts on the X platform (formerly Twitter) were still online for his political rivals to view when his candidacy for the BC Conservatives was approved in January.

That allowed BC United to put together a 56-page binder of the various ignorant, stupid and vile things Scrase had said in the past two or three years — material readily available to the BC Conservatives before, during and after they approved Scrase’s candidacy....

....Rustad, in an interview, refused to distance himself from Scrase’s homophobic posts or say if he disagreed with them.

“I have no comment further with regards to what he actually said,” said Rustad....


https://www.theorca.ca/commentary/rob-sh...ng-problem-or-a-judgment-problem-8921335

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Weeell, there is stuff like this:
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https://www.theorca.ca/commentary/rob-sh...ng-problem-or-a-judgment-problem-8921335

Err doesn't that support the thesis? Once the homophobia of the candidate was revealed they "resigned" from the candidacy. Their vetting process seems to leave a lot to be desired, but it also seems as though this is the type of behaviour they claim to want to filter out.

[Bcasey25raptor]

BC Conservatives are utterly insane and represent a direct threat to me and other poor LGBT people in this province.

Elenore Sturko is throwing us under the bus for a paycheque, she doens't give a rats ass about anyone but herself.

[Migrant_Coconut]

It's a Canadian thing, same with PC/Reform and PC/Wildrose - the Red Tories and Blue Tories don't have enough votes on their own to win a FPTP election.

[Changing City]

Another BC United candidate jumps ship to the Conservative, on the Sunshine Coast.

This seems to confirm that BC United wasn't really a Liberal party (even when they had the name) as so many of their MLAs, and candidates (and voters, if the polls are to be believed), were Conservatives.

It also suggests that they were anything but United, as the haemorrhaging continues.

[Migrant_Coconut]

"Any man who must say, 'I am the King' is no true king." Ditto the People's Party and every dictatorship and/or junta calling itself a People's Democratic Republic."

[MIPS]

This is just so weird.
The fact that the BC Liberals have been so unable to recover after the last two elections to the point the Greens might actually get more seats than them.
It's the greens. The greens!

[Migrant_Coconut]

Red Tories seem to be having a bad time overall this century.

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Red Tories seem to be having a bad time overall this century.

US conservatives have gone all-in on made up culture war BS, MAGA, racism, and being anti-science/anti-vax/generally just conspiracy theory lunatics. Considering the success they're having, it's not surprising that it is emboldening Canadian social conservatives to start dropping the mask and I just don't see them tolerating Red Tories in the next stage of their political movement.

[BaddieB]

New poll (although sample date is from May 21 to 25) gives NDP 15 point lead among decideds.

NDP - 47
BCC - 32
BCU - 13
Green - 7

This seems like an outlier, most (online) polls put the NDP at 10 point leads, but the greens seem to be a bit weaker here. I imagine if it comes close, a lot of Greens will go NDP, but we'll see.

Something to note is the NDP does very well with older voters, who we all know are more likely to vote. The NDP is at 36% for the Boomers/Silents, BCC at 16% and BCU at 7%, 36% '"none of these parties". The BCC is doing much better with Gen Z (who, good for the NDP, don't vote).

https://navltd.com/taking-the-pulse-bc/

[djmk]

Originally Posted by BaddieB

New poll (although sample date is from May 21 to 25) gives NDP 15 point lead among decideds.

NDP - 47
BCC - 32
BCU - 13
Green - 7

This seems like an outlier, most (online) polls put the NDP at 10 point leads, but the greens seem to be a bit weaker here. I imagine if it comes close, a lot of Greens will go NDP, but we'll see.

Something to note is the NDP does very well with older voters, who we all know are more likely to vote. The NDP is at 36% for the Boomers/Silents, BCC at 16% and BCU at 7%, 36% '"none of these parties". The BCC is doing much better with Gen Z (who, good for the NDP, don't vote).

https://navltd.com/taking-the-pulse-bc/

a 15 point lead in a first past the post system is a huge lead especially with BCC and BCU splitting the vote

[whatnext]

Bit of a blow to the Greens. Now they just have Sonya Furstenau's charisma to rely on.

B.C. Green MLA Adam Olsen won't seek re-election, citing 'existential re-evaluation'
Published June 25, 2024 12:07 p.m. PDT

British Columbia Green Party MLA Adam Olsen will not seek re-election this year, the two-term member of the legislature announced Tuesday, citing "an existential re-evaluation of what is truly important to me."

Olsen, one of only two Green MLAs in the B.C. legislature alongside party leader Sonia Furstenau, made the announcement Tuesday during a news conference in Victoria.

Olsen was first elected to the Vancouver Island riding of Saanich North and the Islands in 2017, and won re-election in 2020. He served as the interim leader of the B.C. Green Party from 2013 to 2015 and then once again before Furstenau was elected leader in 2020....

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-green-mla-adam...ting-existential-re-evaluation-1.6940526

[Bcasey25raptor]

Former Green Leader Andrew weaver thinks the BC Cons will win this October. I think he must be high

[BaddieB]

Then him and the Greens should unite behind the NDP and not run candidates in competitive ridings.