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Old Posted Jun 28, 2026, 11:53 AM
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It's this pic from the Herald story that I was referring to. And though I would agree that it's still a bit of a stretch, I see the role of a city councilor to use whatever they can to do what's best for the city rather than just cave to the will of the NIMBY. I'll also add that there's signage, landscaping, colour, lighting, etc. that can be used to highlight the heritage aspect of any development not to mention that this mid-rise is placed at the back of the property rather than being in more prominent position at the front of the property.


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Old Posted Jun 28, 2026, 1:53 PM
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It's this pic from the Herald story that I was referring to. And though I would agree that it's still a bit of a stretch, I see the role of a city councilor to use whatever they can to do what's best for the city rather than just cave to the will of the NIMBY. I'll also add that there's signage, landscaping, colour, lighting, etc. that can be used to highlight the heritage aspect of any development not to mention that this mid-rise is placed at the back of the property rather than being in more prominent position at the front of the property.


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Ah I see it now. Thanks! And I agree.

It should be built, and although I am still ambivalent towards the architecture in general, it appears that they at least made an effort to mimic the rhythm of older houses that might have populated that part of the street at some time.

It always amazes me that, in 2026, ‘we’ still can’t get our act together and come to a mutual understanding that is the best compromise for everyone (i.e. increasing sorely-needed housing stock while retaining character-adding heritage elements). Here we have a chance of having our cake and eating it too, but instead we have to dig in to one extreme side or another: one pigeonholed group described by an acronym vs a different pigeonholed group of an overused generalization, and we don’t seem to have the ability to get beyond that. “Yer either fer me or agin me” (stated with the worst angry hillbilly accent…).

Hopefully common sense will prevail (or at least some form of adhering to accepted processes) and this will continue as planned. Otherwise hang on for another rant about how nobody values heritage buildings around here again. I’m sure we’re all tired of that.
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2026, 1:19 PM
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THe irony is also not lost in the NIMBY's decrying housing unaffordability while simultaneously working hard to make it worse by blocking reasonable developments such as this one. The idiocy really grinds my gears.
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2026, 1:46 PM
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Despite popular opinion on here, I’m not convinced that this is a simple NIMBY situation, although I understand how easy and attractive it is to label it as such. One thing that does seem clear is whatever it is that “they” are trying to accomplish, they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Or, in simpler terms, the end result will not be what anyone wants, and likely worse than if they had just taken the path of least resistance, regardless of whether their intentions are noble or selfish.
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2026, 1:51 PM
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Despite popular opinion on here, I’m not convinced that this is a simple NIMBY situation, although I understand how easy and attractive it is to label it as such. One thing that does seem clear is whatever it is that “they” are trying to accomplish, they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Or, in simpler terms, the end result will not be what anyone wants, and likely worse than if they had just taken the path of least resistance, regardless of whether their intentions are noble or selfish.
To be fair, I suspect many/most NIMBYs own their homes and (rightly or wrongly) expect to benefit from obstruction.
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2026, 2:11 PM
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To be fair, I suspect many/most NIMBYs own their homes and (rightly or wrongly) expect to benefit from obstruction.
And I suspect that a healthy percentage of the activists/petition signers do not have intentions that align with the perceived NIMBY agenda. However I understand that this is a complex concept that doesn’t align very well with a headline-skimming society. Label them and move on. Don’t waste time trying to understand. It’s how we roll now.
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2026, 3:04 PM
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I don't think that there's a lot to understand when it comes to NIMBYs. Fear of change is natural and normal in the human condition and is, in most cases, likely the basis of what they're about. This is why leadership is needed in times of change. In this case, the loss of the potential housing and all the costs and efforts put forward to date is, if reporting is to be believed, based on something so scientific as 'this doesn't go with that' and 'it'll look like a jagged tooth' (apologies to anyone with a jagged tooth). I joked a few times back in the Waye Mason days that he should organize a bus tour of all the devastation, lives lost and carnage etc. caused by one building being taller in the proximity of shorter buildings. Would there be any stops on the tour? We all likely know someone who stubbornly never changes there mind. Their stubbornness doesn't mean that they are right and should warrant any attention let alone build a city based on their behaviour. Again, leadership is required.
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2026, 4:09 PM
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I don't think that there's a lot to understand when it comes to NIMBYs. Fear of change is natural and normal in the human condition and is, in most cases, likely the basis of what they're about. This is why leadership is needed in times of change. In this case, the loss of the potential housing and all the costs and efforts put forward to date is, if reporting is to be believed, based on something so scientific as 'this doesn't go with that' and 'it'll look like a jagged tooth' (apologies to anyone with a jagged tooth). I joked a few times back in the Waye Mason days that he should organize a bus tour of all the devastation, lives lost and carnage etc. caused by one building being taller in the proximity of shorter buildings. Would there be any stops on the tour? We all likely know someone who stubbornly never changes there mind. Their stubbornness doesn't mean that they are right and should warrant any attention let alone build a city based on their behaviour. Again, leadership is required.
I would question whether all of these reasons are classic “Not In My Back Yard” qualifiers, but we all have different interpretations, I suppose. I think we can simply agree that it would be better built than not, with the qualifier that the heritage home is restored. Even less-than-attractive architecture (as in this case) doesn’t seem to be a sufficient reason to try to stop it. I could certainly understand if it were to be like that mess on Jubilee, though. This one is bad, but not that bad, and it is functional housing, though it should be another 5 or so storeys taller.

Edit: Speaking of that building on Jubilee that was the subject of another thread, I really detest its featureless architecture and cheap finishing materials, and feel that it really detracts from the surrounding neighbourhood, even though it does add living spaces in the area. I don’t live in the area but care about the quality of new construction in the city because I care about the city. I could see myself signing a petition or speaking negatively about it if approached by the media because I think that something much better should have been built there, and feel that speaking out about it could result in better outcomes in the future for other buildings being constructed. Does that make me a NIMBY? It’s clearly not in my backyard…

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Old Posted Yesterday, 11:10 AM
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HRM council has rejected this plan.
Height guidelines for the area are two stories.
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I have to say that 8 parking spaces for 8 floors in a suburban area isn’t ideal. In an old established neighbourhood without much on-street parking available, it will cause problems, and honestly will that many people living in Bedford be prepared to live car-free at the mercy of Metro Transit’s sketchy bus system?

I’m starting to question how well-thought-out this development is, TBH.
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I have to say that 8 parking spaces for 8 floors in a suburban area isn’t ideal. In an old established neighbourhood without much on-street parking available, it will cause problems, and honestly will that many people living in Bedford be prepared to live car-free at the mercy of Metro Transit’s sketchy bus system?

I’m starting to question how well-thought-out this development is, TBH.
Where did you get that number?

There are (I believe) 27 units involved so it is not huge, but I do see what looks like garage doors on the exterior renderings. Have to think it would have more then 8 spots.
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Where did you get that number?

There are (I believe) 27 units involved so it is not huge, but I do see what looks like garage doors on the exterior renderings. Have to think it would have more then 8 spots.
Mark is correct, parking for 8 onsite for 30 units. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scot...t-say-8-storey-height-too-much-9.7257966
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I suspect the article is incorrect.
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