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Old Posted Nov 11, 2025, 3:56 PM
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Center City District is great but this is dumb. The problem with Philly alleys is that the dumpsters aren't locked and homeless people turn the alleys into a trash filled mess. We don't need a 50 page study for that. The majority of the center city dumpster alleys should just be restricted to only the building management teams. Most of Manhattan has no dumpster alleys at all. They all have trash rooms which is why you see huge commercial and residential buildings put out huge piles of trash bags.
Completely wrong take.

It's not as simple as dumpsters.

How is it that Sansom Street west of Broad has gone from one of Center City's grimiest streets to one of it's best? It's absolutely positively bustling and exudes charm now.

Programming with intention and a plan, even with small streets and alleyways, can make a massive impact.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2025, 6:23 PM
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Completely wrong take.

It's not as simple as dumpsters.

How is it that Sansom Street west of Broad has gone from one of Center City's grimiest streets to one of it's best? It's absolutely positively bustling and exudes charm now.

Programming with intention and a plan, even with small streets and alleyways, can make a massive impact.
Sansom is a street, not an alley. The CCD report itself doesn't include it as an alley. Sansom should be pedestrianized 15th-17th and 19th-21st on Friday/Saturday nights and Sunday during the day with raisable bollards.

I'm talking about alleys like Ionic, Morivian, etc which are mostly dumpsters and usually disgusting. Unless you plan on getting rid of dumpsters, most center city alleys will never be desirable spaces except for homeless activity.

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Old Posted Nov 11, 2025, 6:48 PM
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Sansom is a street, not an alley. The CCD report itself doesn't include it as an alley. Sansom should be pedestrianized 15th-17th and 19th-21st on Friday/Saturday nights and Sunday during the day with raisable bollards.

I'm talking about alleys like Ionic, Morivian, etc which are mostly dumpsters and usually disgusting. Unless you plan on getting rid of dumpsters, most center city alleys will never be desirable spaces except for homeless activity.

So what? Sansom Street used to be mostly dumpsters and usually disgusting.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2025, 7:51 PM
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Believe it or not, the report explicitly addresses dumpsters and homeless activity if you decide to read it. You do actually need a report and research to document present conditions if you want a baseline to compare to improvements

We would be complaining if they haven't even acknowledged the problem, let's let them cook. They've been good about getting free streets days happening, so they've been moving this direction

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