150 Laurier Ave W | 89m | 27f | Appoved - Page 2

bartlebooth · #21 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 4:29 PM**

I think it's irresponsible for any architect or developer to propose an all glass tower in 2022 given the climate crisis. The amount of energy required to keep these buildings habitable isn't trivial. I get that we want to see a change in the status quo in this town (RLA charcoal brick monstrosities) but I don't believe this is the way to go.

J.OT13 · #22 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 5:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by bartlebooth

I think it's irresponsible for any architect or developer to propose an all glass tower in 2022 given the climate crisis. The amount of energy required to keep these buildings habitable isn't trivial. I get that we want to see a change in the status quo in this town (RLA charcoal brick monstrosities) but I don't believe this is the way to go.

We could say the same about the ever present charcoal brick designs that contribute to the heat island effect and probably increase the hydro bills from running the a/c in summer.

JHikka · #23 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 5:13 PM**

Please no more table top i'm begging

Innsertnamehere · #24 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 5:29 PM**

6 levels of underground parking, wow!

Also, that surface parking needs to go.

How will loading work here? as far as I can tell there isn't a loading space.

J.OT13 · #25 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 5:39 PM**

At least the surface parking is under the building, so it's slightly less bad.

Sheezy · #26 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 7:10 PM**

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We could say the same about the ever present charcoal brick designs that contribute to the heat island effect and probably increase the hydro bills from running the a/c in summer.

You cannot say the same.. this is a false equivalency.
Glass buildings are not possible in the energy code without sham energy models which use "high efficiency HVAC" and other active energy to make up for the passive energy loss due the building having basically no insulation. These energy models also often ignore thermal bridging and assume a perfect installation.

There is a reason the energy code is mandating 40% window to wall ratio. Lots of researchers are pushing for 30%. Unless developers are willing to spend the big bucks on the top of the line windows (they are not willing), all glass buildings will always be an energy suck and are not suited for our climate.

J.OT13 · #27 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 7:23 PM**

No doubt all glass is probably the worst performer from an energy efficiency perspective. I still have concerns about the acres of dark brick added to the skyline every year.

Coho · #28 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 7:31 PM**

Glad to see this isn't another cut and paste charcoal brick building being added to the skyline, although would've been nice if this broke the tabletop. Unless it's within the protected view plane?

J.OT13 · #29 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 7:34 PM**

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Glad to see this isn't another cut and paste charcoal brick building being added to the skyline, although would've been nice if this broke the tabletop. Unless it's within the protected view plane?

Well within the viewplane.

https://skyrisecities.com/news/2015/...ern-built-form

rocketphish · #30 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 10:14 PM**

JADCO Group is proposing to construct a 27 storey apartment building at 150-160 Laurier Ave W., with commercial on ground, 312 residential units, and 200 below grade parking stalls on 6 levels (170 residential, 30 visitor).

The unit mix is as follows:

0 studio units
132 1 bedroom units
15 1 bedroom + den units
157 2 bedroom units
8 penthouse lofts

Architect: RLA Architecture

Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...2-0128/details

Location:

Siteplan:

Harley613 · #31 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 10:24 PM**

I guess ol' Roderick has hired someone who knows how to use Autocad? This one seems beyond the scope of his Minecraft server....

Jokes aside, it looks great. More glass will create demand for more glass. Considering it's in a height controlled area, I have no complaints about this one.

SL123 · #32 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 10:48 PM**

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I guess ol' Roderick has hired someone who knows how to use Autocad? This one seems beyond the scope of his Minecraft server....

Maybe this goes to show its not the architect but the developer that is the problem

Harley613 · #33 Posted **Sep 7, 2022, 10:50 PM**

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Maybe this goes to show its not the architect but the developer that is the problem

I've stated that as my opinion a few times around the forum. It still doesn't excuse the architect fully, eg: the effing crosses on 'Story of Mundane & Boring' on Rideau.

GeoNerd · #34 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 2:48 AM**

Just looking at the tower floor plans, this tower plate size seems to be over 1000m2. Well above the 750m2 requirement. These are still just guidelines as the new OP isn't in effect yet, but i wonder if it will get reduced a bit. Also no defined podium. I'd be interested to hear what UDRP has to say about this one.

OTSkyline · #35 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 2:20 PM**

8 penthouse lofts sound cool. I imagine they'd be similar to the ones at Mondrian; 1 level for kitchen/living/dining and 1 level for beds.

From that diagram though, seems to indicate view planes stop 1 block south at Place Bell. Is that right? If it is, then why didn't we see extra height at Tribeca or The Met?

Harley613 · #36 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 7:57 PM**

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8 penthouse lofts sound cool. I imagine they'd be similar to the ones at Mondrian; 1 level for kitchen/living/dining and 1 level for beds.

From that diagram though, seems to indicate view planes stop 1 block south at Place Bell. Is that right? If it is, then why didn't we see extra height at Tribeca or The Met?

Because Ottawa. And the absolutely gobsmackingly ridiculous Centretown Community Design Plan.

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/do...towncdp_en.pdf

J.OT13 · #37 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 8:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by OTSkyline

8 penthouse lofts sound cool. I imagine they'd be similar to the ones at Mondrian; 1 level for kitchen/living/dining and 1 level for beds.

From that diagram though, seems to indicate view planes stop 1 block south at Place Bell. Is that right? If it is, then why didn't we see extra height at Tribeca or The Met?

And no bachelors!

J.OT13 · #38 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 8:07 PM**

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Because Ottawa. And the absolutely gobsmackingly ridiculous Centretown Community Design Plan.

https://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/do...towncdp_en.pdf

This is dumb. The image even says "suggested bulding height". Maybe if we allowed for taller building, even 35 floors, here and along the Queensway, we could better protect teh heritage parts of Centretown.

Harley613 · #39 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 9:44 PM**

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This is dumb. The image even says "suggested bulding height". Maybe if we allowed for taller building, even 35 floors, here and along the Queensway, we could better protect teh heritage parts of Centretown.

Well anything past the view plane, which can easily be seen to end before the new towers on the diagram, could be 'allowed' because a CDP isn't a non-negotiable plan, but the city is only allowing exceptions for 'Landmark' designs like that supposedly 'Landmark' 34 story tower that was recently proposed. I think the developers are perfectly content to lay low and spew out block after block after block after block after block after block of generic 27 story low cost towers, rather than spend the money on a 'Landmark' design.

YukonLlama · #40 Posted **Sep 11, 2022, 10:47 PM**

Interesting proposal. Definitely would have loved some amenities on the rooftop, but I'm not sure if many places in Ottawa offer two-floor lofts so it's a cool aspect. Additional commercial in the area is another welcome addition.

Can't wait till the core is filled with just as many apartments/condos as there are government office buildings. Really hope it livens things up a bit.