San Francisco: Mission Bay / Dogpatch

[38 Geary]

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Well of course. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying and I never said that UCSF shouldn’t have expanded there. I was just simply answering the question as to how Chase Center specifically interacts with the new neighborhood. Obviously a world renowned medical institution expanding its footprint in the city is highly welcome but it’s not something that directly interfaces with Chase Center on a frequent basis.

[Murphy de la Sucre]

It surely looks new with all those newly built buildings for sure.

[Pedestrian]

Originally Posted by homebucket

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Well of course. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying and I never said that UCSF shouldn’t have expanded there. I was just simply answering the question as to how Chase Center specifically interacts with the new neighborhood. Obviously a world renowned medical institution expanding its footprint in the city is highly welcome but it’s not something that directly interfaces with Chase Center on a frequent basis.

Well I agree with that but the Agnos argument was that basketball or event crowds would block ambulance access to the hospital. And they almost got taken seriously with that.

In reality, Agnos lives (or lived, not sure if he still does) on Potrero Hill and probably just didn't want to look at Chase Center or maybe deal with those same crowds at the foot of his street.

Originally Posted by Murphy de la Sucre

It surely looks new with all those newly built buildings for sure.

To my mind, there's very little distinguished architecture there and a lot of modern blandness.

[38 Geary]

Originally Posted by Murphy de la Sucre

It surely looks new with all those newly built buildings for sure.

Originally Posted by Pedestrian

To my mind, there's very little distinguished architecture there and a lot of modern blandness.

Yeah, it's definitely fair criticism. I think if we removed certain unique indicators like the Bay, it'd be difficult to distinguish this from any other new low-midrise urban development in the United States. None of the buildings are particularly memorable. When walking through the area, I don't feel particularly wow'd. It'd be nice if they tried to incorporate some SF'y features into their buildings like bay windows. I wouldn't be surprised if there was significant value engineering with these projects.

Hopefully with Mission Rock and other various infill projects, there will be more of an emphasis on higher quality architecture.

[the pope]

wait, wut?

[38 Geary]

Originally Posted by the pope

wait, wut?

SF has a bunch of heritage streetcars from SF and other cities (Philadelphia, Newark, Milan, Blackpool, Hamburg, Osaka, Kobe, Hiroshima, Melbourne, Moscow, Porto, and Brussels) that they've restored and use as part of their F Market & Wharves Line.

That one in particular is, one of two in SF's collection from Blackpool. They are originally built in 1934, and are known as boat cars.

[38 Geary]

Some updated shots ft Mission Rock:

[OakAngeles]

Thanks for setting up this thread, homebucket. That stretch of the city has seen tremendous changes & I'm glad someone was here to document the before/after. On a related note, this has made me homesick as hell. Can't wait to get back and visit the Bay

[plinko]

That green tile facade is marvelous.

[dktshb]

Outstanding! The area has really come together. I cannot wait until the final phases of mission rock are complete.

[38 Geary]

Some updates on Pier 70, a large mixed use development in the heart of the Dogpatch/Central Waterfront neighborhood. Pier 70 was a shipbuilding pier that has been around since the Gold Rush. It was home to the Union Iron Works and Bethlehem Shipbuilding. After WWII, Pier 70 experienced a decline in shipbuilding and industrial operations. When initially conceived, the idea was to bring a total of 2,150 homes and 2.27 million square feet of commercial space on 28 acres of former industrial land, alongside parks and preserved/rehabilitated historic structures. Lots of historic buildings from the late 1800s and early 1900s remain.

As you can imagine, with new residents coming in and existing residents and workers from the surrounding areas of the Dogpatch and Mission Bay continue to fill in and mature, along with UCSF/Chase Center close by, and continuing to expand at neighboring Potrero Power Station, and being along T Third, this area holds a ton of potential.

[38 Geary]

An update on Potrero Power Station, another large scale redevelopment project in the Dogpatch/Central Waterfront, immediately to the south of Pier 70. This one is a 29 acre former industrial plot. It'll yield 5.3 million square feet split between 14 different buildings. As proposed, it will provide 2,682 residential units are spread across 2.68 million square feet, as well as commercial space, retail, and a hotel. Nearly 3 acres around the shoreline will be open to the public. This area can be divided into three sections, the waterfront park lawn, which will be connected with the port, a landscaped picnic area, and a public plaza built around the historic 300-foot smokestack. Construction is expected to proceed in six separate phases, moving from the southeast corner to the northwest of the 29-acre plot. Estimated completion is 2034, with an anticipated cost of $1.4 billion.

Some renderings and state of the area prior to construction below:









https://sfyimby.com/2022/03/excavation-u...-san-franciscos-dogpatch-waterfront.html

And the current status. They've completed an 8 story affordable housing project, and are currently working on an 8 story cancer research center for UCSF. And in May, the developer submitted plans for a waterfront interim park, dubbed Prequel Park.

[38 Geary]

Some more recent shots:

The Dogpatch shares a Caltrain station (22nd Street) with neighboring Potrero Hill







Looking up Indiana St



Some newer construction on 3rd and 20th. This one was completed in 2020. Here's what was there before.



Crane Cove Park



Looking up Illinois St



Some of the newer developments on the UCSF Mission Bay campus. One of their outpatient primary and specialty care clinic buildings, with urgent care and pharmacy. Uber HQ and Chase Center in the background. Here's what was there before.





Mariposa Bayfront Park, one of the many parks and public open green spaces in the area





























Looking down Terry A Francois Blvd

[38 Geary]

And here's the newest park in the area, Bayfront Park, right across from the eastern side of Chase Center. Very aptly named as it is a park fronting the bay. Nice place for an easy stroll and there's lots of seating available for people watching or enjoying a calm view of the Bay.

Steel from the now-demolished eastern span of the Bay Bridge has been upcycled and reused throughout the park as sculptural features and for seating.









OpenAI and Cisco buildings with the rest of the skyline in the background



Lots of people using the park for recreation





The skyline of Oakland across the Bay





Nice collection of native plants





Numerous walking paths















Super cool how they incorporated seating along the wall of the adjacent walking path











Very neat how the skyline just opens up as you turn the corner





Pretty crazy to think that none of this was here not that long ago (Salesforce, One Rincon Hill, Oracle Park, Mission Rock, Mission Bay, UCSF, Chase Center, T Third, this park, etc)







More repurposed beams used as informal seating elements along the waterfront







OpenAI and Cisco





More California native plants







A Kindred Bronco (local automotive restomod company based in Vallejo) with a Waymo behind it



Sign of the times. Google Gemini sponsored bike share in front of OpenAI HQ







Some high density residential just north of the park



A recently completed 148 unit affordable housing complex for households earning between 80-110% of the Area Median Income (L) and a recently completed 254 unit (of which 59 units are affordable) building called Verde, which is part of the Mission Rock development, designed by Studio Gang

[38 Geary]

A closer look at the Mission Rock development:

Phase 1 is complete, and the surface lot in the foreground will be for Phases 2-4. Phase 1 includes 537 housing units, 550,000 square feet of commercial real estate, China Basin Park, and 52,000 square feet of retail. Of the 537 units, 161 are designated as affordable to low- and moderate-income households.















One of the popular bakeries in SF









The Canyon is a 23 story residential tower with 283 units (102 of which are affordable), designed by Netherlands-based MVRDV. It features jagged block modules and balconies down to a mid-structure public pathway that forms a canyon between the main tower and a five-story annex. It also includes 15,950 square feet for ground-level retail, 49,290 square feet for offices, and 14,150 square feet of open space, and parking for 312 bicycles.

















China Basin Park, designed by SCAPE Studio, offers 5 acres of open space with views of Oracle Park and the Bay Bridge. It features a hilly lawn, mini beach, open plazas with seating, and running and biking paths.

[ColDayMan]

I really appreciate these updates. Thanks!

[38 Geary]

Here are some recent shots along Mission Creek:

The Lefty O'Doul Bridge, a bascule bridge, designed by Joseph Strauss, chief engineer of the Golden Gate Bridge, opened in 1933





Mission Creek Stormwater Park, more info here















T Third train rolling over the 4th Street Bridge, another bascule bridge also designed by Joseph Strauss, opened in 1917

[peanut gallery]

Great shots, Geary! Also, I like the new name.

I've walked around Mission Bay a bit. I think it's coming together pretty well. As others have noted, it could use more foot traffic, but it's getting there. Filling those last gaps will help. Also, I think we sometimes tend to think of Mission Bay as the area south of the channel, but it does include those blocks between the channel and King. When you include that, it's a fairly impressive area of redevelopment already.