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There is no shortage of open spaces and tiny park-like things in the core.

There is no shortage of open spaces and tiny park-like things, that go underused even during non-pandemic times, in the core.
You sometimes (well, always) give the impression that you would want lot-line to lot-line buildings all over with only sidewalks left for pedestrians. When and where is a park and/or parkette warranted in your opinion?

What's your opinion on the Place de Ville open spaces? or the World Exchange plaza? the parkette in front of 150 Elgin? What, in the core, do you consider a good park/plaza/open space vs one that should not be?
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There is no shortage of open spaces and tiny park-like things in the core.

There is no shortage of open spaces and tiny park-like things, that go underused even during non-pandemic times, in the core.
A tad categorical, don't you think? Which public spaces are "underused"? When the Bank of Canada plaza opened a few years back, it was immediately swarmed with people. That suggests to me that there is a latent demand for good public spaces.
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You sometimes (well, always) give the impression that you would want lot-line to lot-line buildings all over with only sidewalks left for pedestrians. When and where is a park and/or parkette warranted in your opinion?
Sporadically. In the middle of other things, and not at their edges, as much as possibly.

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What's your opinion on the Place de Ville open spaces?
The thing that used to be a fountain/pool thing and is now... planters or something? Almost completely useless.

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or the World Exchange plaza?
That one is OK - tightly surrounded by other urban uses, good shade tree-ing. Performance space isn't nearly as used as it could be.

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the parkette in front of 150 Elgin?
Effectively handles the rush-minute of pedestrians entering and leaving the building that way during normal times, I suppose. Otherwise, that stretch of Elgin suffers greatly from buildings being set back too far from a too-wide street.

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What, in the core, do you consider a good park/plaza/open space vs one that should not be?
Good parks: Dundonald, St. Luke's, Minto.

Good open spaces: WEP, with room for improvement.

Coulda been better: Bank of Canada plaza-thing at Bank and Wellington. The former iteration was almost better.

Pointless: the former Rideau Club site across from Parliament Hill. Would have been better to rebuild on this site than leave this half-assed vacant, intermittently patio-d, nothingness.

Trash: Almost the entirety of Lebreton Flats. Open spaces surrounded by other open spaces, fringed with parks, interspersed with monuments and multi-lane traffic sewers. And yet, every time something else gets proposed to be built on a site that used to be built up, the "moar parks!" cry comes up again and again. No. Lebreton has too damn much open space, and should have much less than currently planned.

Worse than trash: Almost every suburban park. There are no eyes on them, no integration with surrounding "urban" fabric, to the extent you can call dismal Ottawa suburbs urban or fabric. The parks are there to satisfy some formula for park space that no one can justify, but which is treated as holy writ, and to carry out performative park functions conceived of in 1966. There is never any underlying sense of the park as part of the human landscape, or park as a place. They are just big green splotches on a map for your suburban dog to crap in.
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Thanks for your response Uhuniau. Certainly clarifies your position, and I do agree on some of your points.

I thought the PdV open space was fine with the fountain, but is now nothing special. PdV II needs a lot of work (even though it was re-done recently). I'm fine with WEP and the Bank of Canada. I agree the former Rideau Club site should be redeveloped, and the Feds are working on it now. Parks in the residential Centretown are important and well used.

As for LeBreton, I find that RVL and even the new plans are fairly well balanced. I understand why some people oppose the Capital Park proposed between Nepean Bay and Trillium, but the NCC's reasoning (it's all infill) is acceptable in my view.

As for suburbia, I do believe that they should build higher density around the parks. Walk-ups and low-rises, maybe a few mid-rises. I was at Parc François-Perrault in Montreal, near the Blue Line's Saint-Michel terminus. The entire park is surrounded by tightly packed 2, 3, 4 storey walk-ups. One has to walk 500 meters from the Metro station before seeing a SFH. The park was absolutely booming with activity. Such an extreme contrast to suburban Ottawa-Gatineau. Parks around here in Orleans have picked-up since March due to Covid, but still nothing compared to what I witnessed in Montreal.
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As for suburbia, I do believe that they should build higher density around the parks. Walk-ups and low-rises, maybe a few mid-rises. I was at Parc François-Perrault in Montreal, near the Blue Line's Saint-Michel terminus. The entire park is surrounded by tightly packed 2, 3, 4 storey walk-ups. One has to walk 500 meters from the Metro station before seeing a SFH. The park was absolutely booming with activity. Such an extreme contrast to suburban Ottawa-Gatineau. Parks around here in Orleans have picked-up since March due to Covid, but still nothing compared to what I witnessed in Montreal.
Precisely. Public open green public green open green public open spaces need to be tightly integrated into surrounding urban fabric in order to be people places. Too many of Ottawa's P.O.G.P.G.O.G.P.O. spaces were developed during the "ornamentalism" mid-century phase where green stuff was to be looked at, ideally from the window of a moving car, rather than used, and that philosophy still guides way too much of Ottawa's, and especially the NCC's, approach to what urban parks and other public spaces are supposed to be for.
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Survey on "Usage and Satisfaction with City of Ottawa Parks and Outdoor Recreation Facilities".

https://engage.ottawa.ca/parks-and-f...on-master-plan
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Open House on Byron Place Parkette redevelopment. Closely tided to the 472 Byron Place proposal.

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Consultations to begin later in 2021 for this outdoor pool modernisation.


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One of three Rideau-Vanier projects announced, with improvements to the Centre de service communautaire de Vanier and the Youville Centre in Sandy Hill.

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Open House on Byron Place Parkette redevelopment. Closely tided to the 472 Byron Place proposal.

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On this one, I prefer concept 3 as it best delineates the road from the park, followed by 2 for its tree canopy. Not liking concept 3, which has far too much hardscape; looks like green patches on a road.
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The World Exchange plaza will be going thru a revitalization phase including the exterior plaza. Plans were posted on Dev apps



https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0012/details
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This is great. Should add some much needed liveliness to the plaza. Too bad the overall project does not include a new entrance to Parliament Station at the corner of Queen and O'Connor.
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https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0012/details
That's crazy. I spent a summer in the mid nineties working for a landscaping company doing all the landscaping for the last revitalization phase of this plaza. It feels like yesterday!
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Very nice! Also suggests that the former WEP LCBO will become a restaurant, with the addition of a patio.
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Love the WEP plaza, one of the gems of CBD IMO, so great to see it will be updated. Will be a great gathering spot once people get back to work downtown.
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I love it! It reminds me a bit of the plaza at Nathan Philips Square in T.O. This is what the plaza in front of Ottawa City Hall should be.
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I love it! It reminds me a bit of the plaza at Nathan Philips Square in T.O. This is what the plaza in front of Ottawa City Hall should be.
Gotta love the summer hockey on the big screen.
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Gotta love the summer hockey on the big screen.
Sure would be great if the Sens played DT so that the public could gather somewhere centrally and near to the arena for pre, during, and post-game activities and celebrations.
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Sure would be great if the Sens played DT so that the public could gather somewhere centrally and near to the arena for pre, during, and post-game activities and celebrations.
Absolutely. There was a brief period around 2007 when there was some actual tailgaiting going on at Scotiabank Place or whatever it was called at that moment, but nothing like the gameday atmosphere you get with a central arena.
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The Feds, Province and City are investing in upgrading 29 playgrounds across the city, along with a few not-for-profit community centres.

Here's the list of playgrounds:


https://twitter.com/JimWatsonOttawa/...36642389733386

Community Centres receiving funding include the Bronson Centre and the Carlington Community Health Centre.

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Feds, province and city commit to funding playground upgrades; Bronson Centre and Carlington Community Health Centre to undergo renovations
The federal government is providing $3.5 million towards these projects, with the province committing $2.9 million. The City of Ottawa is offering up over $1.4 million for the park improvements.

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Thirty parks in Ottawa will receive upgrades to playground equipment and other improvements while the city’s Bronson Centre and Carlington Community Health Centre will be renovated and expanded thanks to new funding from the federal, provincial and municipal governments announced Tuesday.

The federal government is providing $3.5 million towards these projects, with the province committing $2.9 million. The City of Ottawa is offering up over $1.4 million for the park improvements, while the Bronson Centre and Carlington Community Health Centre will provide around $600,000 and $235,000 towards their renovations, respectively.

With the province currently under a six-week stay-at-home order but playgrounds still open, Mayor Jim Watson said it was the “perfect time to invest and expand, and improve and make accessible these parks in all parts of the city.”

“As a result of the stay-at-home order, kids need to get out for their own physical and mental health, to play and be kids,” he said at a joint virtual press conference alongside municipal, provincial and federal representatives.

Manotick’s Centennial Park will receive nearly $700,000 in upgrades and improvements, including a new skateboard park and two basketball courts, replacing the boards on its outdoor rink, improving landscaping and signage, and upgrading park furniture.

Progressive Conservative Carleton MPP Goldie Ghamari, whose provincial riding includes Centennial Park, praised the funding infusion, saying rural Ottawa residents lack the same access to infrastructure enjoyed by others in the city.

“I find people in rural Ottawa don’t necessarily have access to the same services that other people in other parts of Ottawa do, because of a lack of public transportation, or distance, or other things,” she said at the press conference.

Ghamari added that while she didn’t know when work would start on the park, she was looking “forward to seeing shovels in the ground as soon as possible.”

The other 29 parks, spread across all 23 of the city’s wards, will have non-accessible and end-of-life playground equipment replaced with new accessible benches, swings, play structures and pathways. Collectively, this will cost around $5 million. Eight upgrades are expected to begin this summer.

Tuesday’s funding announcement comes only weeks after Ontario’s Progressive Conservative government announced the closure of all playground amenities in the province to help stop the surge of COVID-19 cases. This policy, though, was quickly reversed amid outcry from residents.

Meanwhile, renovations have already begun at the Bronson Centre, according to executive director Corey Mayville. The Centretown facility provides affordable rental space to other non-profit organizations, charities, and cultural associations. The Bronson Centre is renovating its main, rear, and side entranceways to improve access, refurbish the façade’s stonework, replace over 75 per cent of the windows, and upgrade ten studio spaces and the theatre for creative arts use.

“As you know, mass gatherings have not been allowed for essentially the last year… and that has impacted our revenues fairly significantly. But thanks to government assistance and programs…everyone’s employed, everyone’s still working,” Mayville said at the press availability.

Thanks to these government funded upgrades, Mayville said “the sky is the limit” for how the Bronson Centre can improve and possibly expand services.

Renovations at the Carlington Community Health Centre will help the facility make its healthcare offerings more accessible, said executive director Cameron MacLeod. The health centre provides a variety of services to community residents, including primary healthcare, dental screenings, mental health counselling and childcare.

MacLeod said COVID-19 has forced the centre to reimagine its physical space, with the funding to be used to expand rooms, improve accessibility for client-facing services and to create an outdoor garden area to be used as programming space or a children’s play area. One of the health centre’s buildings that dates back to 1922 is being completely renovated, in part, to help accommodate the needs of people with mobility issues, he explained.

“We’re designing the ground floor so that it’s completely accessible with a main street design so that people can come in the building and not have to worry about stairs and elevators,” said MacLeod, adding that these renovations will also allow the centre to expand their community kitchen for their food security programming, as well as improve existing programs.

“It’s about enhancing, but it’s also about bringing stability to the programming that we already have.”

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...go-renovations
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