AUSTIN | Block 16 | 590 Feet | 41 Floors | Approved

[KevinFromTexas]

Originally Posted by myBrain

I can't be the only one who hates scrolling through PDFs.

This looks like a tall version of Gensler's Domain towers.

I remember George Blume had posted some models to one of his accounts photo accounts that he shared here. It was the one where he was blindfolded and was putting his hands on the building models and being able to tell which one was which. I remember in that account he had, he had a collection of models just sitting on the table. One of those, I remember, looked a lot like this one. I remember thinking to myself, man, that looks like a significant tower height-wise. Does anyone still have a link to that account of his? George?

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

I remember George Blume had posted some models to one of his accounts photo accounts that he shared here. It was the one where he was blindfolded and was putting his hands on the building models and being able to tell which one was which. I remember in that account he had, he had a collection of models just sitting on the table. One of those, I remember, looked a lot like this one. I remember thinking to myself, man, that looks like a significant tower height-wise. Does anyone still have a link to that account of his? George?

I remember that. The photo may be posted in the Third + Shoal thread. But that thread is too long and vile for me to want to spend time parsing through it.

[ILUVSAT]

Alternatively, this could be a push by Gottesman (and team) to increase the value of his land prior to CC expansion. The city will have to pay him fair market value for it should the expansion move forward as currently planned. His land is far more valuable with an approved 600' tower on it rather than warehouses with restaurants.

[Myomi]

Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Alternatively, this could be a push by Gottesman (and team) to increase the value of his land prior to CC expansion. The city will have to pay him fair market value for it should the expansion move forward as currently planned. His land is far more valuable with an approved 600' tower on it rather than warehouses with restaurants.

I don't really think it is. As long as he can build this structure by right (which I think he can because it's CBD with no view corridor), then the property inherent value is the same. The land value will have that right built taken into account.

However, if he has to get zoning variance to do this, or has to do some environmental mitigation, and he goes through the process to do that, then he increases the value. Because then the right to build goes up, and the value would need to compensate.

[We vs us]

Hey those are awesome!

[IluvATX]

Maybe it could be built with a podium without parking to allow for CC space. And yes I still lurk around here, just not as often with work and such.

[427MM]

Hope I'm wrong, but this has all the feeling to it of a bottom feeder trying to drive up the value of the land with a bogus play just to see it bought out through eminent domain for the convention center expansion. Not impressed. Sandy was also the person credited for blowing up the Brackenridge deal through his connections with UT. That all went from an incredible vision to something quite underwhelming in a hurry.

[The ATX]

After looking at the elevations, this looks like 39-stories officially - but the ~613' height is still good. The floor levels listed in the elevations for the amenity level and roof level include the three underground parking levels. It appears to be 43 levels including mechanical. It would be 40 floors officially if the roof level was an amenity level.

[The ATX]

With the CC moving forward, this project seems pointless.

[The ATX]

Let's pretend that this one is happening. New elevations were posted for AULCC and it appears to have gained two floors, and the height has been clarified to be 613'. There is retail on the 42nd floor.


ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/.../200227/PLANS/

[StoOgE]

WE FINALLY GET AN OBSERVATION DECK.

on a fake proposal.

[ahealy]

Originally Posted by StoOgE

WE FINALLY GET AN OBSERVATION DECK.

on a fake proposal.

LMAO. We're seriously VERY overdue for an observation deck. This whole situation with the convention center seems cray cray! I had no idea the plan was to demo the existing one for a new one.

[George_Blume]

Patience.

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by George_Blume

Patience.

Gensler is the architect working with the city on the early plans for the CC expansion. Maybe you know something about the CC plans?

[KevinFromTexas]

Originally Posted by George_Blume

Patience.

George, can you tell us what the height will be to the mechanical penthouse? The building elevations from the site plan only show the main roof height of 557 feet. The mechanical seems to go up another 50+ feet from there.

[George_Blume]

I know nothing about the CC. I’m saying we all need to exhibit some patience about where the design is going. Plus the CC is in the hands of the voters. So we should exhibit some patience there too.

The height is also in flux. But its architectural height is roughly in the 600’.

Architectural height means absolute total height above MSL. as in top of highest built point.

[427MM]

Originally Posted by George_Blume

I know nothing about the CC. I’m saying we all need to exhibit some patience about where the design is going. Plus the CC is in the hands of the voters. So we should exhibit some patience there too.

The height is also in flux. But its architectural height is roughly in the 600’.

Architectural height means absolute total height above MSL. as in top of highest built point.

A good reminder, propositions A and B are BAd. Vote NO in NOvember.

A nice write up: https://www.statesman.com/opinion/20...ons-for-austin

[Vexal]

Originally Posted by 427MM

A good reminder, propositions A and B are BAd. Vote NO in NOvember.

A nice write up: https://www.statesman.com/opinion/20...ons-for-austin

For people too lazy to read (not me, asking for a friend), can you explain in one sentence the answer do this question: "do we want the convention center expansion?" Preferably explain in one word.

[We vs us]

Yes.

[kingkirbythe....]

No