Hyatt House [110 York St] | 60m | 17f | Approved

[waterloowarrior]

http://ottwatch.ca/devapps/D02-02-18-0071

[OTownandDown]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

http://ottwatch.ca/devapps/D02-02-18-0071

When I saw the front elevation I thought "oh, that's not too bad"

Clicking through the entire design brief, I'm convinced this may be the ugliest building I've ever seen.

[MountainView]

So they are building a 20cm taller twin of the Andaz.

And I agree... the first picture of the front looked great... then I saw the side views. But I have seen worse.

[RogueNacho]

Ew. Really hope this one gets redesigned.

I gotta say that I really dislike when developers build right to the property line and leave an ugly blank wall on the side of the building. I get it that one day development could occur on the adjacent property, which would cover up the blank spot, but until then it just looks so hideous and lazy to look at. The OCD part of me much prefers a nice, clean, finished look on all sides of the building.

[OTownandDown]

Originally Posted by RogueNacho

Ew. Really hope this one gets redesigned.

I gotta say that I really dislike when developers build right to the property line and leave an ugly blank wall on the side of the building. I get it that one day development could occur on the adjacent property, which would cover up the blank spot, but until then it just looks so hideous and lazy to look at. The OCD part of me much prefers a nice, clean, finished look on all sides of the building.

I don't understand the thinking of the hotel here. I haven't been in a hotel before where I could look into my neighbour's room? Also what is the intention here? So when the adjacent properties are built up those v-shape returns will allow sunlight to penetrate the 20 stories to the rooms below? Or will you just rely on the neighbour to turn on their light in the morning and cast a warm glow through your window?

Once again, the old insurance building, derided for its brutalism, is way more interesting, clean, elegant, and well-designed than this ridiculous addition to the market. Is this what architecture schools are churning out these days?

[UrbOttawa]

Curious as to why they would choose an architect who seemingly specializes in stucco suburban hotels for a location in one of the most prominent and urban neighbourhoods of Ottawa







http://www.saplysarchitects.ca/completed-projects/

[Soi-Fon]

Yuck. Even a wall of spandrel would be better than this.

[OTSkyline]

Yeah, not a great design but I do like how it fills up another empty lot in the Byward Market. Also, at least it looks pretty "urban"... Not like they built 5 story suburban designs in the market.

Can you imagine how this corner will look though if this, the Andaz Part. 2 and the "Andaz part. 3 condo edition" go through and get built? All pretty ugly, all basically lot line to lot line, in that same corner. It would look so ugly and crammed

[waterloowarrior]

Panned by the urban design review panel

https://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/plann...es-andaz-hotel

[movebyleap]

Good!

[movebyleap]

Originally Posted by UrbOttawa

Curious as to why they would choose an architect who seemingly specializes in stucco suburban hotels for a location in one of the most prominent and urban neighbourhoods of Ottawa







http://www.saplysarchitects.ca/completed-projects/

Because...Ottawa. (why is Vancouver's condo king in charge of the Chateau Laurier expansion)?

[McKellarDweller]

Garbage like this, and its turd neighbour Andaz wouldn't fly in any of the best and oldest commercial parts of Montreal, Boston, UES/UWS Manhattan, or many other cities. It's really a shame design standards here are non-existent.

[YOWflier]

They also tore into Trinity Station pretty heavily (a bit further down the page).

Are UDRP's recommendations binding in any way?

[rocketphish]

Bayview Ottawa Holdings Ltd. is proposing the development of a 17-storey hotel under the Hampton Inn by Hilton brand, at 116 York Street. The proposal includes a two-storey podium housing hotel functions including: the lobby, lounge area, dining area, and fitness centre. The third-storey, within the tower, will include several meeting rooms. A terrace with a mix of deciduous and evergreen vegetation is proposed on the northern edge of the podium, facing York Street. A café is proposed on the ground floor which will serve hotel guests and pedestrians on York Street. Approximately 16 guest suites will be accommodated on each floor, for a total of 224 suites over the 14 floors of the hotel tower. The tower is stepped back from York Street by 6 m, with this step back housing the terrace.

Development application:
https://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans...appId=__A6AX5W

Streetview:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.42918...thumbfov%3D100

Site:




Rendering/Elevation:








Floorplans:

[rocketphish]

Proposed Hilton hotel in ByWard Market would add more downtown guest rooms

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: August 10, 2018



Hundreds of more hotel rooms could being added to Ottawa’s central area, once criticized for not having enough guest accommodations for a bustling tourist city.

Bayview Ottawa Holdings, a hotel development and management company, is proposing to build at 17-storey hotel at 116 York St. in the ByWard Market. The hotel would be branded as a Hampton Inn by Hilton, according to a planning application submitted to the city.

The 224-room hotel would take the place of a surface parking lot. The hotel would have 63 underground parking spots for hotel guests; the company believes most guests will arrive by means other than personal vehicles, such as ride-ordering businesses or transit.

The company will need to get council’s permission for the hotel since the proposed height exceeds zoning and the property is in a heritage conservation district. There are different height maximums for the property, but current zoning at the tallest points is around 21.5 metres and 50 metres. The company wants the maximum to be 59.6 metres in both areas.

After construction of the new convention centre, now called the Shaw Centre, there was a concern that the city didn’t have enough hotel capacity to handle major events, especially heading into the action-packed 2017 celebration year for Canada’s 150th birthday.

But in recent years, new hotels have been constructed in the downtown area, including Le Germain Hotels’ accommodations in the new Arts Court complex and on Slater Street. New hotels have also opened outside of the core.

Development plans by big hotel companies apparently aren’t scuttled by alternative accommodation platforms like Airbnb.

Claridge Homes also has plans to add a 19-storey, 136-unit tower to the Andaz hotel, which is operated by Hyatt and directly next door to the Bayview Ottawa Holdings property.

The Bayview application is on track to be considered by council’s planning committee in November.

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twitter.com/JonathanWilling

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...wn-guest-rooms

[Harley613]

This is even more 1990's looking than Andaz

[McKellarDweller]

Originally Posted by Harley613

This is even more 1990's looking than Andaz

Imagine the awesome view of this that East Market Phase 1 residents will have! (barf)

[OTownandDown]

Originally Posted by McKellarDweller

Imagine the awesome view of this that East Market Phase 1 residents will have! (barf)

Note: No windows face that way. The windows are oriented towards each other, or if you're lucky, a blank wall.



Based on these layouts, you can literally watch your neighbour in bed.

[Luker]

Originally Posted by ac888yow

They also tore into Trinity Station pretty heavily (a bit further down the page).

Are UDRP's recommendations binding in any way?

They did, but still seem open to it's existence once refined.

Some of the suggestions were well founded. I liked the idea to:

Respond to the geometry of the site and consider designed a ‘Flat Iron’ style building as the east tower. This provides an opportunity to bring a unique, slender design quality to the east tower, while establishing a clear identity to the site.

However, how this one tower would relate to 2 other square towers (should they remain) would be a question...

[J.OT13]

The Great Wall of Rideau is being replicated on York. Absolutely terrible!

And now we're getting too many tall buildings in the Market. I get the first Andaz; it was replacing a building taller than anything else in the area that many considered an eyesore (with a few calling it historic) with a slightly taller, modern building. You could argue it was "grandfathered". And though the design ended up being disappointing, at least the height was well balanced, sitting between the low-rise Market and and the high-rise Rideau. It stood out in the skyline and created layering.

But the Claridge condo tower approved next door at the Honnest Lawyer site should never have been approved. Andaz 2 and this Hampton Inn just push this bad precedent. Now we'll just have 4+ mediocre towers of just about the same height clustered together.