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Old Posted Apr 24, 2017, 2:54 PM
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+1 for bike lanes on Holland. It would nicely connect Scott St to the Byron path.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2017, 11:52 PM
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'We have this raging battle between bike lanes and parking': Spencer Street blowback angers Ottawa cycling advocate

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 24, 2017 | Last Updated: April 24, 2017 4:41 PM EDT


A businessman who was one of the first supporters of drawing bike lanes on Spencer Street says the removal of a big bike rack on Wellington Street West nearly three years ago has given opponents some swagger.

“We empowered them,” Randy Kemp said. “All the whining and complaining paid off.”

Kemp, a former chairman of the Wellington West BIA and now the organization’s treasurer, said the conflict over the bike corral at Clarendon Avenue in 2014 set the stage for the current debate over putting bike lanes on Spencer Street. The city removed the bike corral, which was placed in a spot used for on-street parking, after receiving complaints about the lost vehicle space.

When the city replaced the underground infrastructure on Spencer Street, Kemp was one of the cycling advocates who reached out to Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper with the idea of putting bike lanes on each side of the residential road. Leiper liked the idea enough that he asked city staff to make it happen when the road reconstruction happens this year.

After hearing complaints from businesses and residents, Leiper helped organize an open house, which is Tuesday night, to gauge the community’s appetite for adding bike lanes and losing 97 on-street parking spots.

Kemp said he was thrilled when the city showed interest in drawing bike lanes on Spencer Street between Western and Holland avenues.

Now he’s shaking his head at the possibility of the plan being reversed.

“My first reaction is I’m really disappointed. I thought we were done with this battle between parking and cycling when it comes to parking that is not really utilized. It’s not even needed, and yet we have this raging battle between bike lanes and parking,” Kemp said.

“I expected better.”

A study has shown that parking demand on Spencer Street is low at peak times. Few homes front onto Spencer Street in that stretch.

But opponents of the plan don’t like the idea of losing street parking to accommodate narrow bike lanes when Spencer Street already operates as a well-used cycling connector route without the road markings. People have been signing petitions to stop the bike lanes and to call for more consultation before the plan is set in stone.

The final decision on the road design largely rests with Leiper.

Kemp, who owns residential and commercial properties in the Wellington West area, said the city needs to use the opportunity to expand cycling infrastructure and avoid “a bigger setback than what people realize.”

The open house Tuesday will be at the Ottawa Mosque’s Hall of Peace at 241 Northwestern Ave. from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.

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Old Posted Apr 25, 2017, 3:07 PM
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+1 for bike lanes on Holland. It would nicely connect Scott St to the Byron path.
And Sherwood if we can get 66+1% of residents on Sherwood to support the unused parking space being turned in a bike lane.
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Notwithstanding that the stretch of Spencer in question is not in Hintonburg, the bike lane proposal is now dead in the water: http://kitchissippiward.ca/content/bike-lanes-spencer
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Notwithstanding that the stretch of Spencer in question is not in Hintonburg, the bike lane proposal is now dead in the water: http://kitchissippiward.ca/content/bike-lanes-spencer
We could call this cautionary tale: “Overzealous councillor acts quietly on behalf of vocal minority, then learns a lesson about the need for open consultation after the word leaks out.”

There's some pretty insightful comments from residents there too. And to think that this was very close to a fait accompli without many people even knowing about it!
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We could call this cautionary tale: “Overzealous councillor acts quietly on behalf of vocal minority, then learns a lesson about the need for open consultation after the word leaks out.”

There's some pretty insightful comments from residents there too. And to think that this was very close to a fait accompli without many people even knowing about it!
No kidding. Where will those hundreds of residents park their cars?



Spencer street at 5PM on weekday via @ElieBourgett
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2017, 12:31 AM
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Councillor bows to opposition over Spencer Street bike lanes

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 25, 2017 | Last Updated: April 25, 2017 2:09 PM EDT


There will be no bike lanes on Spencer Street now that the area’s councillor has decided there isn’t enough support to swap street parking for the marked cycling zones.

Kitchissippi Ward Coun. Jeff Leiper wrote on his website Tuesday that there isn’t enough backing in the community to replace street parking with painted bike lanes between Western and Holland avenues. He says 55 per cent of the 160 emails he received oppose the plan.

“Some of this opposition was sometimes on the basis of assertions with which I disagree, but much of it has resonated with me,” Leiper wrote.

Leiper’s post came hours before an open house on the road design.

He had advocated a plan to draw bike lanes on Spencer Street after hearing from cycling advocates who suggested a new post-construction design. The idea involved replacing 97 on-street parking spaces with the narrow bike lanes.

Spencer Street, which is slated for road reconstruction after pipe and sewer upgrades, is considered a cycling connector route on the regional cycling map.

Opposition to the bike-lane plan has been building in recent weeks as homeowners and businesses decry the loss of parking on Spencer Street. Opponents say the street is a well-used and adequate cycling route that doesn’t require bike lanes.

On the other hand, cycling advocates see Spencer Streets as a prime opportunity to introduce bike-friendly infrastructure through the Hintonburg-Westboro corridor, especially since Wellington Street West is generally considered precarious for cyclists.

The final decision rests with Leiper, but he says he can’t prove to the city that there’s enough community support for the bike lanes.

A traffic-calming plan to install raised intersections at three places along the corridor won’t change, the councillor says.

The open house Tuesday will now be more like a drop-in rather than a town hall, Leiper says. It will be at the Ottawa Mosque’s Hall of Peace at 241 Northwestern Ave. from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.

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Old Posted Apr 26, 2017, 1:34 PM
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We could call this cautionary tale: “Overzealous councillor acts quietly on behalf of vocal minority, then learns a lesson about the need for open consultation after the word leaks out.”
He could learn from his colleagues Nussbaum and Fleury on how to ignore or bulldoze the opposition to pet projects.
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No kidding. Where will those hundreds of residents park their cars?



Spencer street at 5PM on weekday via @ElieBourgett
Seems like there is plenty of room for cyclists, cars, parking and tumbleweeds under the current arrangement.
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Seems like there is plenty of room for cyclists, cars, parking and tumbleweeds under the current arrangement.
I don't disagree. This is not a good street for a cycling track. Ideally it should run on Wellington West, one block to the South.
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2024, 11:28 PM
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Push to delay paid parking in Westboro, Wellington West fails
'No one in our area wants it,' business group says, but councillors call free parking unfair

Arthur White-Crummey · CBC News
Posted: Jun 27, 2024 2:51 PM EDT | Last Updated: 4 hours ago




An attempt to spare Westboro and Wellington West from paid parking until they have train service failed at committee Thursday, as Ottawa city councillors called it unfair to give just two neighbourhoods a break.

City staff conducted a study that showed high parking demand along Richmond Road and Wellington Street W., leaving frustrated drivers searching for spaces. The problem is only increasing as insufficient visitor parking at new buildings pushes more cars onto the street.

"At the busiest times, we're seeing a situation where there is a lack of available parking," said Scott Caldwell, Ottawa's manager of parking services.

"We don't want parking to be jammed. We want to ensure that on average you have one or two spaces per block, or two blocks, so that the next person coming into the area can find parking."

He told councillors that pricing those spaces at $3 an hour could drive turnover and open up spaces.

Elsbeth Vaino, vice-chair of the Wellington West Business Improvement District, said paid parking is currently the hottest topic of debate in the neighbourhood.

"No one in our area wants it," she said. "We've heard from zero members who are for it. We've heard from many, many that are opposed."

Vaino said businesses in the area are struggling, and paid parking might drive more customers to the spacious and free parking lots of the suburbs.

Above all, she worried about retail staff who don't have reliable transit options to get to work on time without a car.

But Caldwell said parking demand — and the resultant problems — is actually worse in the study area than on streets that already have paid parking.

Somerset Coun. Ariel Troster said she doesn't know how to answer when businesses in Chinatown, just to the east, ask: "Why does Wellington West have free parking and we don't?"

Knoxdale-Merivale Coun. Sean Devine had the same worry.

"For any other business in any other area, where their customers and staff do have to pay for parking, they would see what you are looking for as a competitive advantage," he told Vaino.

Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper, whose ward includes Wellington West and much of Westboro, proposed a motion to delay paid parking until the LRT west extension gives shoppers and workers a reliable alternative.

"Trying to get to work in Westboro could involve taking a bus to a bus to a bus," he said

He called the delay a "grand bargain" the city could strike with residents.

"We're going to put paid parking in," he said. "It's going to be more difficult for staff to find parking within the neighbourhood to work at the shops and the restaurants. But we're going to give them a train. That train is almost here."

Leiper's motion failed by a vote of eight to three.

After the defeat, Leiper told reporters he wasn't surprised by the vote at committee.

"You heard the, call it resentment, or the recognition of the inequity between a very vibrant shopping area in Hintonburg and Wellington West and Westboro that doesn't have paid parking today, versus those neighbourhoods that do have paid parking," he said.

"I think it would be difficult for many councillors to suggest that Wellington West and Westboro should be treated differently than other parts of town."

But even without the delay, Leiper said he will be voting for paid parking when it comes to council for a final vote. He said businesses are likely overestimating the damage it will do. As towers go up, there will be more and more customers moving into the area who can walk to those stores.

"I am not as cynical as some of the businesses may be expressing today that this is going to result in a devastation of our commercial area," he said.

Leiper rejected the argument that parking is free in the suburbs, since property owners tend to pass the cost on to their retail tenants, who in turn charge their customers higher prices.

"There is no such thing as free parking," he said.

If full council approves the plan, the earliest paid parking would arrive in Westboro and Wellington West would be the second quarter of 2025.

On-street parking rates are also set to change across the city if council passes the committee's recommendation for a new demand-based pricing system.

Staff will review parking demand twice a year. They'll aim to keep parking occupancy at between 50 and 85 per cent of all spaces, a range Caldwell called the "sweet spot."

If it drops below that rate during two consecutive periods, they'll decrease the cost of parking. If it rises higher, they'll hike the rates.

"As long as we're within that target zone, that 50 to 85 per cent, we'll keep rates where they are," Caldwell said. "But if it's too high, so above that 85 per cent zone, that's indicative that there needs to be more turnover — there needs to be a market answer to that."

Adjustments are already planned for 11 of the city's 20 parking zones. In August, rates in six zones will go up by 50 cents, and drop by 50 cents in four zones. In one, prices will rise by a dollar.

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I support paid parking, but I think it was reasonable to ask to delay it until Stage 2 opens. Anyone know how the vote was split?
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What??? 50%-85% occupancy doesn't mean that there is optimal turn-over. And above 85% doesn'e mean that there needs to be more turn-over.

Occupancy and turn-over can sometimes be loosely connected; however, if there is a continuous stream of customers circling the blocks, taking the spots as they free up, the parking can always look 95% full, even though each vehicle stays for only 15 minutes. You can't really infer one from the other.

The reasons for paid parking can be many, but the main ones would likely be;
a) People are parking for long durations, thus making it more expensive to do so will encourage turn-over; and
b) The City wants the revenue.

Just because the spots appear full a lot of the time (and the article doesn't say whether there are many long-term parkers or if there is high turn-over) doesn't, by itself, justify paid parking for reason a). Thus, without other evidence, b) wins as the default reason that the City wants to add paid parking.
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c) a lot of labour is involved in enforcing parking limits. It's easier to check receipts instead of chalking tires and coming back after to check again
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I don't think that they 'chalk tires' any more. I expect that they simply use licence-recognition software that compares previous passes for lingering vehicles.

Hey, here's an idea; put the licence scanners on OC Transpo buses. Every bus if Web-connected, so they could have a record of parked vehicles every 15 minutes, or so, along that stretch - or any other section of road where buses travel.

Come to think of it, I wonder how that works. Does the licence reader create a list of GPS-tagged licence numbers and then compare them to a previous list? I guess that it would need to GPS-tag the numbers, since a car could leave and come back to a different spot within the time window. (i.e., move the car every hour) And what happens if the car returns to the same spot? (In the olden days, the chalk mark would have been in a different orientation, or worn off. Alas, gone are the days when you could simply spin the rear wheels - 'brake stand' - to look as if you had moved.)

How about putting a 'loop' (or some form of 'vehicle detector') under each parking spot and monitoring it to see if cars remain for longer than permitted.

What about installing cameras and letting a computer (A.I.?) monitor the parked vehicles. It could be done at long distances, since the computer would only be looking for changes in a string of 'blobs'. When a 'blob' changed, the timer would restart for that spot. If a timer reached its maximum limit, the 'Green Hornets' would be alerted.

There are lots of ways to enforce parking restrictions without setting a price on the spots. In this case, the City is using a 'passive' method that doesn't change what it does, much, but it pulls in a lot of money.

I'm still going with b).
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They definitely still chalk tires on my street, and I have friends in the Glebe and it's the same there. Bylaw patrol usually drives by and chalks around mid morning and comes around three hours later. With limited resources they only do Westboro side streets once a week.
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Interesting. I thought that they had moved on from 'chalking'. Thanks for the info.
Do they walk along and do it, or is there some automation, like a mechanical arm out the side of a vehicle that maybe blows chalk dust onto the tire?
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It's a person in a car with a piece of chalk attached to a long stick, extending it out the window to do the marking. I get a lot of people who work at the businesses along Richmond Road parking on my street and they know the drill. They just come out on their lunch hour to shuffle their cars if they see chalk marks. Thus, despite the effort at enforcement, very few tickets get issued.

There is simply no sustainable way to enforce the 90-minute limit on Richmond road without spending a lot of resources on patrolling.
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It's a person in a car with a piece of chalk attached to a long stick, extending it out the window to do the marking. I get a lot of people who work at the businesses along Richmond Road parking on my street and they know the drill. They just come out on their lunch hour to shuffle their cars if they see chalk marks. Thus, despite the effort at enforcement, very few tickets get issued.

There is simply no sustainable way to enforce the 90-minute limit on Richmond road without spending a lot of resources on patrolling.
A 90 minute rule seems enforceable unless people move their car.

I wonder if a cheaper option would make sense for many areas. $1 an hour for example.
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On-street parking rates expected to increase in many downtown neighbourhoods
Inflation and parking use patterns to determine which neighbourhoods will see rates increase or decrease.

Bruce Deachman, Ottawa Citizen
Published Jun 30, 2024 • Last updated 2 hours ago • 3 minute read


On-street parking rates are expected to increase in more than a half dozen Ottawa neighbourhoods this summer, including the ByWard Market Core, Little Italy South, the Glebe South and Downtown.

As well, Wellington Street West and Richmond Road in Wellington West, and Westboro are expected to lose their parking meter-free status.

The city’s transportation committee on Thursday voted 8-3 to approve a report recommending those changes. Full council is expected to support the report’s recommendations when it meets on July 10. The changes would come into effect in August.

The changes to parking rates, the first in Ottawa in five years, were determined throughout the city’s 20 on-street parking zones by both inflationary pressures and measured demand for parking in each zone.

As a result, four zones will see rates go down. Rideau, Terminal and Holland Cross rates will drop from $1.50 to $1 an hour, while the rate in Vanier will decrease from $2 an hour to $1.50.

There are currently three rates for the city’s nearly 3,800 metered parking spaces: $1.50, $2 and $3.50 an hour, with about 85 per cent of them, or roughly 3,200, at the highest level. According to the city’s 2024 budget, the maximum allowable rate it can charge is $4.50 an hour. Only one of the zones — Ruskin, by The Ottawa Hospital’s General campus, where the current rate is $3.50/hour — will reach that height.

The other six zones where parking rates will increase, including Chinatown and King Edward, will see an increase from $3.50 to $4/hour, a 14 per cent jump. According to the report, the new rates are expected to generate an additional $440,000 in annual revenue each year.

Nine zones will see no change in their rates: Constellation, War Museum, Little Italy North, ByWard North/East, Glebe North, Centretown North, Centretown South, Besserer and Rochester.

The three committee members who voted against adopting the report were Orléans East-Cumberland Coun. Matt Luloff, Osgoode Coun. George Darouze and Gloucester-Southgate Coun. Jessica Bradley.

Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper, who is not a member of the committee but whose ward is home to the West Wellington and Westboro neighbourhoods, cited retail workers’ difficulties finding parking when he asked the committee to consider delaying the approval of meters there until Stage 2 of LRT opens, expected to be in 2027.

And although his motion failed, Leiper said he would nonetheless support the report’s recommendations at full council next week.

Whether metered street parking in Kitchissippi will benefit area businesses remains to be seen. Beacon Hill-Cyrville Coun. Tim Tierney, who chairs the committee, believes it will.

“I think having parking in rotation will assist businesses,” he said. “We just heard the Trainyards … they don’t even have parking rates, and they’re going in the tank. So any assertion that those are correlated, I have a bit of a problem with.”

Tierney added on Sunday that he expects council will support the recommendations “no problem.” He noted, too, that while he’d generally like to support free parking, “when I put on my city hat, I have a fiduciary responsibility to make sure that we have equity across the board.”

“And let’s face it,” he added, “we don’t know when LRT will be ready.”

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