Terrasses de la Chaudière | Renovation | U/C

[Soi-Fon]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

I like the red brick, it adds warmth and diversity to the skyline. The ground floor interiors definitely need renovating and could be more open and brighter, but the general exterior to me is not so bad. It reminds me of heritage factory buildings and mills which fits in with the industrial past of that area. The detail of the bricks is also part of how the scale is perceived from a small building block you can hold in your hand to a large complex of buildings that fill your view. I think cladding it in a light, more monolithic material will make the whole thing look massive, and will always look like an awkward re-clad because the materials won't match the original composition of the building forms.

In a way, it's like a modernist interpretation of Châteauesque style, a Minecraft version of the Chateau Frontenac

True, I think the new material doesn't match the architecture of the current buildings. It would look quite awkward if you ask me.

[OTSkyline]

As everyone mentioned I'm happy that it is getting some renovations and updates; especially hoping for better ground floor retail and connection to the streets.

I like glass but not sure going from all brick to all glass is the way to go. I would've rather have a variety. Perhaps the low short buildings in brick, do 1 or 2 tall towers in glass and the other medium towers with something else. That way you get more of a variety and more of a "downtown" look with a collection of buildings rather than a one-stop shop for all things brick n' government.

[AndyMEng]

1. The brick can't stay, unfortunately. Whoever thought 27 stories of brick was a good idea from a safety standpoint was part of a different generation....

2. These are concept sketches by a summer student at the NCC... not the finished product.

3. Looks like concrete precast and/or glass spandrels between windows. Probably a good look and modern.

[Acajack]

I actually like red brick a lot, and don't mind it on skyscrapers like Barrister House on Elgin in Ottawa.

But the red brick on the Terrasses leaves me cold. I won't be sad to see it go.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by AndyMEng

1. The brick can't stay, unfortunately. Whoever thought 27 stories of brick was a good idea from a safety standpoint was part of a different generation....

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The local bricklayers union, a brickmaking company, and a brown envelope on a table at Café Henry Burger, maybe?

[BlueJay]

I'll reserve my thoughts on this until I see something other than a pencil crayon render.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by AndyMEng

1. The brick can't stay, unfortunately. Whoever thought 27 stories of brick was a good idea from a safety standpoint was part of a different generation....

There are plenty of brick towers all over the world. Just need to upkeep, which is something government has trouble with. They prefer to neglect a building for a few decades to the point where only the structure (or not) is salvageable.

[AndyMEng]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

There are plenty of brick towers all over the world. Just need to upkeep, which is something government has trouble with. They prefer to neglect a building for a few decades to the point where only the structure (or not) is salvageable.

The sheer volume of brick on this building, which is turning 50+ years old requires millions of dollars in upkeep on a continuous carousel of endless work, and even that hasn't stopped the odd chunk from coming down. I'm not sure its a neglect issue, so much as a brick quality and design issue.

[BlueJay]

Originally Posted by AndyMEng

The sheer volume of brick on this building, which is turning 50+ years old requires millions of dollars in upkeep on a continuous carousel of endless work, and even that hasn't stopped the odd chunk from coming down. I'm not sure its a neglect issue, so much as a brick quality and design issue.

The same could be said about a 50 year old building that was or will be clad in glass, precast panels, aluminum panels, etc etc. We even see exterior finishes fail within the first year of installation. Regardless of the exterior finish, endless work needs to be done ever year if not properly installed. Design issues/engineering and poor installation are the main causes. This is far too common.

[BlueJay]

[QUOTE=AndyMEng;7684683]1. The brick can't stay, unfortunately. Whoever thought 27 stories of brick was a good idea from a safety standpoint was part of a different generation....

Yes, they were from a different generation. A generation where engineers where educated on the field and not in a classroom.

[kevinbottawa]

How does the federal development process work? The articles say the NCC board gave federal design approval, but one of the articles also refers to the renderings as a "concept". Does this mean the renderings aren't just a concept but the actual proposed design?

[waterloowarrior]

^ here is the full report ... conditional approval of the concept with more steps to including preparation of a master site plan.

http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/sites/defau..._chaudiere.pdf

[Soi-Fon]

Quite interesting.




http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/sites/defau..._chaudiere.pdf

[Mr.Flintstone]

This whole project has caught me by surprise wasn't expecting this.

Is there more information about what's going on north of the Chaudiere building. skimmed through the document said might be residential building they also mentioned multipurpose center.

[AndyMEng]

[QUOTE=BlueJay;7684936]

Originally Posted by AndyMEng

1. The brick can't stay, unfortunately. Whoever thought 27 stories of brick was a good idea from a safety standpoint was part of a different generation....

Yes, they were from a different generation. A generation where engineers where educated on the field and not in a classroom.

Actually, the building was designed by scientists at the NRC who were testing cutting-edge technology/theories about building science.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Mr.Flintstone

This whole project has caught me by surprise wasn't expecting this.

Is there more information about what's going on north of the Chaudiere building. skimmed through the document said might be residential building they also mentioned multipurpose center.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/arch.../t-201675.html


http://www.tvagatineau.ca/articles/2...sorganise.html

[kevinbottawa]

So glad this project is moving forward. This is a game changer for downtown Gatineau. Hopefully the mayor of Gatineau didn't convince the NCC to replace the brown brick with more brown brick.

NORR, Provencher-Roy win $3.9M Terraces de la Chaudiere renovation contract in Gatineau

A global engineering firm and a Quebec architect are joining forces to renovate the exterior of one of the country’s largest federal office complexes.

The consortium of Montreal-based Provencher-Roy and NORR, which has a local presence, has been awarded a $3.9-million contract to design and manage the recladding of Terraces de la Chaudiere in Gatineau, Public Services and Procurement Canada announced recently.

The agency said the complex’s brick facade is cracking prematurely, posing a safety hazard. Workers have been inspecting and repairing bricks for more than a decade and installed an overhead protection system to keep pedestrians safe.

The recladding is part of a bigger project to rehabilitate the full building envelope system – including windows, curtain wall, pre-cast panels, mechanical/electrical interface, roofing, penthouse cladding and interior finishes affected by the envelope work. Dillon Construction is currently developing the overall master plan for the Les Terrasses de la Chaudière site and surrounding area.

The total estimated construction cost, according to procurement documents, is $175 million. The complex will remain occupied throughout construction.

Built in 1978, the 30-storey downtown Gatineau complex is home to Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada, Canadian Heritage, the Canadian Transportation Agency and the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission.

About 6,000 civil servants work at the complex, which contains 1.53 million square feet of rentable space – an area more than four times the size of the Performance Court office tower at 150 Elgin St.

The recladding project is expected to start in the spring of 2019 and be completed by the spring of 2023, pending the National Capital Commission’s final approval of the design next summer.

http://obj.ca/article/norr-provenche...tract-gatineau

[harls]

I was waiting for Superman's crystal palace thing, seeing as the building was from 1978 or so.

[J.OT13]

Plans have been revealed for the public square at the base of the buildings. They include an amphitheater, public art and better flow of pedestrian traffic on the site. They also want to add retail.

Work is to begin Spring 2019 and end in 2023. Workforce will grow from 5,000 to 9,000 (through Office 3.0 I assume).

It appears they are removing the bus-loop so OC and STO will have some major route modifications ahead of them.

Terrasses de la Chaudière: le plan est dévoilé

Le Droit
Vendredi, le 22 juin 2018
Charles-Antoine Gagnon



Un amphithéâtre ainsi que de l’art public seront intégrés dans les aménagements extérieurs du complexe de tours de bureaux Les Terrasses de la Chaudière au centre-ville de Gatineau, selon une proposition discutée devant la Commission de la capitale nationale (CCN).

Le projet de plan d’implantation des aménagements de l’espace public extérieur des Terrasses, qui a obtenu le feu vert de la CCN jeudi, s’intègre dans le projet des travaux de rénovation de l’ensemble du complexe qui verra notamment les murs de briques des immeubles être remplacés par un nouveau revêtement.

Quelque 5000 fonctionnaires travaillent dans les immeubles des Terrasses de la Chaudière. Une fois la modernisation des locaux terminée, on s’attend à ce que ce nombre passe à environ 9000.

Le plan d’aménagement paysager propose d’améliorer la circulation des gens sur le site avec notamment une voie piétonnière centrale ainsi qu’une Place des célébrations où un amphithéâtre sera construit. Une zone pour le commerce de détail est aussi prévue.

Les travaux de rénovation du complexe devraient commencer au printemps 2019 pour se terminer en 2023.

Des discussions avec le personnel de la Ville de Gatineau, de la Société de transport de l’Outaouais et d’OC Transpo sur le projet d’aménagement extérieur auront lieu.

Des consultations avec les citoyens vivant dans les environs seront aussi tenues.

https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/g...c54c9a5007f241

[Soi-Fon]

Any news about the reclad?