1161 Heron Rd | 50 m | 2 x 16 fl | Completed - Page 2

Catenary · #21 Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 6:55 AM**

Tower Crane went up on this site Saturday afternoon. Synergy logos on the crane.

Davis137 · #22 Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 12:38 PM**

I also noticed the crane being setup in that location this weekend, and it's a welcomed sight. After looking at the renders again, these buildings look like a shorter version of the Bella Tower that finished going up in downtown Hamilton last year (27 Floors).

Davis137 · #23 Posted **Aug 1, 2018, 3:37 PM**

Had a look at this site this past weekend, and the site not only has mixed hoarding and fencing, but the portion of the site closest to Heron Road is excavated at least 2-3 levels below grade, with the north side of the site being between 1 and 2 levels deep. I would imagine that they will be down as far as they need to be soon, and will be starting pours before the end of August...

Davis137 · #24 Posted **Sep 10, 2018, 4:48 PM**

I will go by this location this week, and try to get some pictures...I don't live too far from it...

Multi-modal · #25 Posted **Sep 27, 2018, 1:40 PM**

Here is the site yesterday:

It looks like they are one level below ground level for most of the site.

Davis137 · #26 Posted **Nov 25, 2018, 10:06 PM**

The site is now at grade, they are prepping to install forms and other equipment for the first floor, and as of right now, they are constructing the second high crane for the north portion of the site...some vary rapid progress in the last week. I will try to get pictures this week...

JHikka · #27 Posted **Feb 9, 2019, 6:49 PM**

Roughly two floors above grade on Heron.

danishh · #28 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 4:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Roughly two floors above grade on Heron.

yeah, I was at Canadian tire this weekend and this dev surprised me. Completely forgot about it. Good location for more housing on Heron/Baseline busway. Should be ~30 by transit to most locations inside the greenbelt.

TransitZilla · #29 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 4:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by danishh

yeah, I was at Canadian tire this weekend and this dev surprised me. Completely forgot about it. Good location for more housing on Heron/Baseline busway. Should be ~30 by transit to most locations inside the greenbelt.

Sadly it's not on the busway although it is close to route #6 service on Bank St.

Service toward the west from this location is not great since it requires a connection at Billings Bridge. I suggested to OC that the new 46 (replacement of 112) should be removed from Clementine and extended west on Heron to Data Centre Rd which would provide a faster connection to buses toward the west.

The OC rep indicated that they thought the increased walking time from Clementine Blvd offset the benefits. Of course I disagree; I think that with service along Bank Street and along Heron the walking distances would be acceptable, but alas.

Multi-modal · #30 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by bradnixon

Sadly it's not on the busway although it is close to route #6 service on Bank St.

Service toward the west from this location is not great since it requires a connection at Billings Bridge. I suggested to OC that the new 46 (replacement of 112) should be removed from Clementine and extended west on Heron to Data Centre Rd which would provide a faster connection to buses toward the west.

The OC rep indicated that they thought the increased walking time from Clementine Blvd offset the benefits. Of course I disagree; I think that with service along Bank Street and along Heron the walking distances would be acceptable, but alas.

I agree with you, its too bad OC Transpo disagrees. They could still provide some nominal service on Clementine using the new 141.

This segment of Heron shows the disconnect between City planning (road designated as a at-grade rapid transit corridor) and OC Transpo (unwilling for various reasons to run ANY buses on the road).

Another example is the Blair Road Transit Priority Corridor (http://ottwatch.ca/meetings/file/519024... where they are studying transit priority on Blair even though OC Transpo has no plans to run even an all-day local route on Blair, let alone a frequent route. (*Edit, in the case of Blair I think the Transit Priority corridor should be moved to Bathgate and Den Haag)

CityTech · #31 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 8:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by bradnixon

Sadly it's not on the busway although it is close to route #6 service on Bank St.

Service toward the west from this location is not great since it requires a connection at Billings Bridge. I suggested to OC that the new 46 (replacement of 112) should be removed from Clementine and extended west on Heron to Data Centre Rd which would provide a faster connection to buses toward the west.

The OC rep indicated that they thought the increased walking time from Clementine Blvd offset the benefits. Of course I disagree; I think that with service along Bank Street and along Heron the walking distances would be acceptable, but alas.

OC's internal culture is too obsessed with walking distances and not concerned enough about frequency or speed.

OTSkyline · #32 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 9:04 PM**

Its not too far from the Mooney's Bay LRT station though...

lrt's friend · #33 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 9:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by OTSkyline

Its not too far from the Mooney's Bay LRT station though...

Are you kidding?

Mooney's Bay station access is west of Bronson. Are we now expecting people to routinely walk from Bank to Bronson to access transit? And there is a big gully in the middle that you have walk down and walk up again plus it is not exactly pedestrian friendly to the east of Mooney's Bay station.

TransitZilla · #34 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 9:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by OTSkyline

Its not too far from the Mooney's Bay LRT station though...

1.5 km to Mooney's Bay Station.

1.0 km to Heron Station.

TransitZilla · #35 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 9:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityTech

OC's internal culture is too obsessed with walking distances and not concerned enough about frequency or speed.

The full response I got was this:

"We also reviewed your suggestion to have Route 112 operate along Data Centre Road instead of Clementine Boulevard and Bank Street. We examined the immediate impacts to riders through changes to travel time, walking time, and waiting time. In assessing your suggestion, we found a travel time saving from the new routing. However, these savings are offset by the extra walking time from customers travelling to/from Clementine Boulevard and Bank Street. Based on this information we do not recommend this change as the benefit of those changes do not outweigh any potential inconvenience to customers."

My reaction was that they may only be considering existing customers and that is short-sighed. The faster routing may attract more customers to transit.

lrt's friend · #36 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 9:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by bradnixon

Sadly it's not on the busway although it is close to route #6 service on Bank St.

Service toward the west from this location is not great since it requires a connection at Billings Bridge. I suggested to OC that the new 46 (replacement of 112) should be removed from Clementine and extended west on Heron to Data Centre Rd which would provide a faster connection to buses toward the west.

The OC rep indicated that they thought the increased walking time from Clementine Blvd offset the benefits. Of course I disagree; I think that with service along Bank Street and along Heron the walking distances would be acceptable, but alas.

The reason for the comment was that Route 1 used to run on Clementine for decades. Service has already eroded a lot. I believe there are a lot of seniors who live in the back streets in this area.

Multi-modal · #37 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

The reason for the comment was that Route 1 used to run on Clementine for decades. Service has already eroded a lot. I believe there are a lot of seniors who live in the back streets in this area.

The demographics in the area are changing. There are still some seniors of course, but the area is seeing more and more young families (relatively inexpensive compared to Old Ottawa South or Alta Vista) and students (proximity to Carleton playing a big factor).

Catenary · #38 Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 11:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

The reason for the comment was that Route 1 used to run on Clementine for decades. Service has already eroded a lot. I believe there are a lot of seniors who live in the back streets in this area.

The housing there is fairly dense, and the former rail corridor between Bank and Gilles limits the connectivity of the street grid out to Bank street. If more of the streets connected to Bank, I don't think this would be much of an issue at all.

eastcanman · #39 Posted **Feb 18, 2019, 4:39 AM**

I thought the main point of the old 112 line was to add an increased level of accessibility for people who might find it difficult to walk even a few hundred metres to transit? The Clementine Blvd. neighbourhood hosts a number of seniors' homes as well as an adult long-term care facility; these are probably significant factors in maintaining a route in the area.

TransitZilla · #40 Posted **Feb 18, 2019, 12:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by eastcanman

I thought the main point of the old 112 line was to add an increased level of accessibility for people who might find it difficult to walk even a few hundred metres to transit? The Clementine Blvd. neighbourhood hosts a number of seniors' homes as well as an adult long-term care facility; these are probably significant factors in maintaining a route in the area.

I thought the main point of the 112 was to provide a cross-town route on Heron and Walkley. That's why I think the service should be fast and direct. The 112 is being re-numbered 46 when LRT starts.

There is a variant of the 112 today that serves Kaladar, Brookfield and Clover. That used to be part of route 5 and with LRT will be renumbered as 141. That will serve Clementine as well.

Under my proposal, the 46 would no longer serve Clementine, but the 141 would still. The 141 only has a few trips per day (and probably should be increased to, say, hourly) but I think that is ok for a route where more frequent service would be available wiithin a fairly short walk for most.