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Old Posted May 7, 2009, 11:32 PM
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^They eat seal meat here.

On the EU ban: okay, unless it's actually harmful for people, let people decide what they want to or don't want to buy.

On the mace for the torch: if we have the Canadian olympic athletes wear seal fur then I am willing to pay $1000 to the first athlete (any country) that makes a grab for the torch when it comes into the stadium and starts clubbing Stephen Harper with it.

On Canada posturing trade tariffs against the EU: get over it. Two wrongs don't make it better and at least you'd have the ability to say WTF were you guys doing with this in trade talks.

On the seal hunt in general: we kill animals, we eat animals. Canada and NL have made some concessions on how the hunt is done in the past few years. If people don't like it, don't buy the product, demand will shrivel and unless the Canadian government is going to subsidize sealers to go out and kill things no one wants in the sake of job creation, then the seal hunt will die on its own. It's time for some reskilling of people in some sectors. I'm back in school right now. Stop teaching your kids to rely on the ocean when it's nothing but bad news.

I'm apologizing for all the incorrect stuff I've thrown out here (except for the clubbing Stephen Harper point, I stand by that.)
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Old Posted May 8, 2009, 12:07 AM
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It's not an issue anymore:



Canadian Olympic Committee says no to seal skin uniforms

5 hours ago

OTTAWA (AFP) — Upset by an EU decision to ban seal products, Canadian parliamentarians have proposed that Canadian athletes wear uniforms made of seal pelts at the 2010 Winter Olympics, but Games organizers on Thursday rejected the idea.

The European Parliament voted on Tuesday to endorse a European Union ban on seal products in protest against commercial hunting methods, provoking anger in Canada and a possible pursuit of redress at the World Trade Organization.

Canadian lawmakers unanimously supported a motion late Wednesday in the House of Commons urging the Canadian Olympic Committee to make athletes' uniforms out of seal pelts and for the government to promote sealing at the Games in Vancouver.

In a statement, national Inuit president Mary Simon expressed support for the motion.

She noted that Olympic organizers had borrowed an Inuit symbol -- a stone marker called an Inukshuk -- for the Games and urged them to "follow-through and support Inuit all the way. That includes our culture, and our culture includes seal hunting!"

Chris Rudge, head of the Canadian Olympic Committee, however, immediately dismissed the idea, saying there would be no seal skins used in the making of uniforms.

"We respect the right of Canadians and its politicians to engage in such discussions, but it's not the role of the Olympic movement or of our Olympic team to take a position on social or political issues," he told AFP.

The Canadian government maintains that the 350-year-old seal hunt is crucial for some 6,000 North Atlantic fishermen who rely on it for up to 35 percent of their total annual income.
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2009, 1:06 PM
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gotta love PETA's logo for their seal campaign:


just so everyone is clear, "whitecoats" (as depicted in the logo above) have been banned from the seal hunt since 1987 so all these images of cute white seals being clubbered are old and outdated and only serve to rile people into believing this is still going on.

PETA has financial goals to meet so this just puts gas on the fire for them.

another issue i have is hyprocracy. so it's ok for Spain to shoot arrows into bulls and let them die a slow death or for France to force feed ducks so much til their livers explode for foie gras but this is wrong? if it was a quick bullet to the head would this practice all of a sudden be ok?

i never really gave this issue much thought before but seeing just how much misinformation there is out there makes you shake your head.

CBC has some unbiased info about the seal hunt here; http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/05/05/f-seal-hunt.html

in any event, the olympics are going to be a gong show. with the homeless people protesting, PETA and who knows who else, it's going to be protest central..LOL
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2009, 3:15 PM
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It's not an issue anymore:
Good to hear. I couldn't believe the idea got as far as it did.
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2009, 10:48 PM
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gotta love PETA's logo for their seal campaign:


just so everyone is clear, "whitecoats" (as depicted in the logo above) have been banned from the seal hunt since 1987 so all these images of cute white seals being clubbered are old and outdated and only serve to rile people into believing this is still going on.

PETA has financial goals to meet so this just puts gas on the fire for them.

another issue i have is hyprocracy. so it's ok for Spain to shoot arrows into bulls and let them die a slow death or for France to force feed ducks so much til their livers explode for foie gras but this is wrong? if it was a quick bullet to the head would this practice all of a sudden be ok?

i never really gave this issue much thought before but seeing just how much misinformation there is out there makes you shake your head.

CBC has some unbiased info about the seal hunt here; http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/05/05/f-seal-hunt.html

in any event, the olympics are going to be a gong show. with the homeless people protesting, PETA and who knows who else, it's going to be protest central..LOL
Well a bullet to the head would be pretty cruel as it just tares a relatively small hole through the head leaving the animal in shock but alive and likely conscious while massive brain hemorrhaging eventually kills it. A quick swift blow to the head with a club crushing the skull and taring the brain in hundreds of places makes the death a million times quicker and likely painless every time(keep in mind that it needs to be a crushing bloody blow that hopefully splatters chunks of brain all over the place).
     
     
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