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Old Posted Jun 13, 2008, 5:07 AM
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Most all of them, if I'm not mistaken, were drawings of already illustrated buildings, though. There also seems to be some suspicious that a great deal of them are actually traced over illustrations of others drawings.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2008, 8:40 AM
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Ponte City Apartments is a mirror image???? Why would anybody do that

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Well, I have to answer my own question. Both The Whale and ING House are 'pimped' mirror images of my own drawings. I don't understand why CEO mr Dylan Leblanc would add these drawings. OK they're better than my versions, but that's no big deal as all the hours of work to draw the difficult shapes of these two buildings were done by me. They only need a shiney gloss to make it primary. Worstly the buildings (The Whale among others) just don't look this way, just because of the mirror image. So it never should have approved anyway.

It happens to often that the approval committee adds low quality, rip-offs, wrong sized drawings. While editors have constantly flow of work, made difficult by often ridiculous requests, the approval committee just seems to hang over and just add everything which is added, making almost everything primary which looks fancy, without comparing with photos of the real building in it's real setting.

Listen guys if this happens again I delete all of my 1240 drawings.

what are we gonna do about this little 'problem'?

p.s.

Will everybody check for more of these mirror images and suspicious rip-off work of this steamboyfello'

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Can this thread be dragged to the editorforum?
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2008, 2:31 PM
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Well said!

This illustrator is bad news and action should be taken immediately. Looking through some of his diagrams and comparing them to existing ones, he is blatantly ripping off other people's work. He hasn't copied any of mine but I'd be angry if he had.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2008, 4:37 PM
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Most all of them, if I'm not mistaken, were drawings of already illustrated buildings, though. There also seems to be some suspicious that a great deal of them are actually traced over illustrations of others drawings.
Indeed not a single one of them hasn't been drawn before! As for the suspicions, I also have to agree with you, just look at this: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?buildingID=27346

The drawing on the left is a drawing I made two years ago and as you can see his version looks pretty much like mine although with more details. That's why I decided to take a closer look at his drawing in a graphics program and the dimensions of his drawing, even the placement of the windows and the facade elements is exactly IDENTICAL!

It looks like he has drawn some of the buildings on his own, but at least half of them are simply traced over other drawings.

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It happens to often that the approval committee adds low quality, rip-offs, wrong sized drawings. While editors have constantly flow of work, made difficult by often ridiculous requests, the approval committee just seems to hang over and just add everything which is added, making almost everything primary which looks fancy, without comparing with photos of the real building in it's real setting.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2008, 5:05 PM
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And today a new group of 110 drawings by Steamboy increase that number, ¡¡what a great number of hours of work!!, good drawings for the diagram!
I guess it was pretty easy to spot if he's a thief. Apparently I noticed his strange "I thought I've seen this before" drawings ever since the first day he started uploading his first few diagrams. Someone should go talk to him before it gets worst.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2008, 2:46 AM
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Tim, point out the won's the illustrator traced over and I'll unapprove them. We do not allow this, and perhaps Dylan was earlier on fooled.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2008, 5:15 AM
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I hadsome suspicions on steamboys to,they do seem traced over.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2008, 5:40 AM
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Both The Whale and ING House are 'pimped' mirror images of my own drawings. I don't understand why CEO mr Dylan Leblanc would add these drawings.
I have deleted Steamboy's drawings of The Whale and ING House because they are copied from yours. I appologize for aproving them. If you know of any other drawings which should not have been approved please let me know.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2008, 7:41 AM
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I have deleted Steamboy's drawings of The Whale and ING House because they are copied from yours. I appologize for aproving them. If you know of any other drawings which should not have been approved please let me know.
So.... Will there be any action taken against him?
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2008, 11:14 PM
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I think all of his drawings should be deleted. Isn't there something about banning people for infringement in the agreement?
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2008, 3:52 PM
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I guess it was pretty easy to spot if he's a thief. Apparently I noticed his strange "I thought I've seen this before" drawings ever since the first day he started uploading his first few diagrams. Someone should go talk to him before it gets worst.
I supposed that he makes his drawing per months previously the big upload day, but if he makes plagiarism, he broke the rules, must be warned in accordance the SSPIA-IC and the suspected drawings deleted.

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a.) No illustrator will submit as his/her own, any drawing or portion of a drawing that he himself (or she herself) has not created.
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Portions of other illustrator’s work(s) integrated into an otherwise original drawing, and submitted as purely original.
Anything that is submitted to the SkyscraperPage.com diagrams must be 100% original. There are no exceptions to this rule, and there will be no tolerance for those who break it.
Any submitted drawing that violates the ethical standards stated here will be deleted. On the third offense the guilty party will be warned. If an illustrator carries out a fourth violation he/she be banned from illustrating, and will have his/her account deleted.

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Old Posted Jun 16, 2008, 4:21 PM
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^ Yeah he might had drawn those before hand. I still remembered when I went into the pending diagrams section, it started booming over night with the same username all the way. I was thinking what the hell happened, then I realized something wasn't right when I scrutinized his diagrams carefully.
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2008, 7:23 PM
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I don't mean to defend Steamboy, but he never did agree to the SSPIA Illustrators Code.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2008, 12:03 AM
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So not agreeing allows someone to plagiarize?
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2008, 12:25 AM
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I don't mean to defend Steamboy, but he never did agree to the SSPIA Illustrators Code.
It's already 4.5 years since I registered, but isn't an agreement with the Illustrators Code a prerequisite to get an illustrator account and thus upload drawings in the first place?
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2008, 4:15 PM
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Tim, point out the won's the illustrator traced over and I'll unapprove them. We do not allow this, and perhaps Dylan was earlier on fooled.
well, I was a little harsh (again). I know you're all doing a good job, mistakes are made easily.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2008, 9:50 PM
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It's already 4.5 years since I registered, but isn't an agreement with the Illustrators Code a prerequisite to get an illustrator account and thus upload drawings in the first place?
The system currently isn't designed to make a user agree to the illustrators code before they are allowed access to upload drawings. This will be changed at some point though.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2008, 7:03 PM
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Last week I emailed Steamboy and explained to him the issues we have with some of his drawings. He has emailed me back now saying he understands and apologized for copying other peoples drawings.
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Sorry to interrupt, I'm a noob to this forum and I'm not sure where to post this, but I'd like to know where and to whom could I ask a question about reasons for constantly rejecting (deleting) my building drawing?
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2008, 11:52 PM
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On the main page go to...

Account Settings > Drawings > Deleted Drawings and click on the View & Edit button for the drawing that got rejected. The page contains internal comments and a reason should be given there.
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