Margaret and Charles Juravinski Centre for Integrated Healthcare

[SteelTown]

So what should the name be for the new Hospital? Lincoln Alexander Hospital? I wouldn't mind Arthur Weisz Hospital, Effort Trust guy, yea sure commie blocks but he really built majority of Hamilton's high rise and a Holocaust survivor.

[raisethehammer]

Originally Posted by DC83

There's a bigger hunk of land on the s/e corner of The Linc & Upp. Wellington. I think it would be a better option as upper james is so damn busy an ambulance would never be able to get to the Centre!

this land is all being built on right now.
A friend of mine just bought a house up there (well, one that will be built soon).
My folks live that way and I drove by last night...it's all dug up. no room for a hospital there.
It would make sense to have it on a street with highway access.
This should really help to unclog the downtown emergency rooms and hospitals.
Everyone I know who lives in the mountain ALWAYS comes to St Joes or Mac for emerg.
Nobody ever uses Henderson.
Maybe with Henderson being rebuilt and a new hospital on Upper James folks will start staying up there and using those ones.

[SteelTown]

Have you been to the Henderson ER? God it's horrible. Probably 10 ER beds for well over 150,000 people on the Mountain. I went to the Henderson ER last year for a head concussion, baseball hit my head well playing at corporate baseball, no helmet. I was lucky enough to get a bed. I used the Chedoke ER twice in the past and it was great, yea old but it was speedy. Once that closed all hell broke loose at Henderson. I was born at Henderson haha.

So I called my dad and yep he said Upper James. The city had sat aside the land for them for a LONG time.

[raisethehammer]

lol...no I haven't been to Henderson.
It must suck. NOBODY that I know uses it.
That'll change once they finish the huge reconstruction job up there.
Good news all around.

[SteelTown]

View from Wellington


To be built at the very end of McMaster Hospital, along that new street and next to the Engineering building that's under construction

[raisethehammer]

kewl.

[chris k]

The henderson hospital i beleive is changing its name to Juravinski Hospital and Cancer Center when its finished. I heard that as a rumour since they are basically paying for the renovation. Should look great when there finished. I also think half of the old building is currently knocked down. Im guessing construction starting in spring 08?


Haha Btw i was also born at Henderson

[raisethehammer]

these guy are buildings some pretty good looking projects these days.

Steeltown - help me out...where on the Mac property is that last rendering?? Near Main Street next to the new engineering building that is currently going up (by the way, that thing is flying up)??

[SteelTown]

Remember when you asked what that thing was in the background of the Engineering building rendering? Well that's the building. But now I'm confused because it says "Chedoke Site" which is up on West Mount. It's gotta be at McMaster.

HHS gutted Chedoke, sold all the land to housing development (dirt cheap too!), closed down the ER, closed down all the long term care to St Pete's, closed down all the doctor's office, closed the addiction centre, soon all the rehab will be relocated to the General, the only thing that's keeping Chedoke alive is the kitchen, all hospital food is made there. Some of the buildings there are historical and protected by the city. I remember like 8 years ago HHS wasted millions on making one Chedoke building earthquake proof, I'm serious!

The Engineering building is really taking shape now. They are probably just starting the 4 floor now. I'll try and get some pictures.

[SteelTown]

Kids-only ER key part of Mac plan
HHS also proposes Urgent Care Centre on southwest Mountain

January 16, 2008
Denise Davy
The Hamilton Spectator

A dedicated children's emergency department and new Urgent Care Centre on the Mountain are among sweeping plans that would alter the face of health care in Hamilton.

The proposals would, among other things, see the end of a full service emergency department in the west end at the McMaster University Medical Centre.

"The direction we're talking about is multi-faceted and will have a profound impact on a number of different disciplines," said Murray Martin, president and CEO of Hamilton Health Sciences, who met with The Spectator's editorial board yesterday.

The changes, if approved by the Ministry of Health, would be implemented over the next three to four years.

Martin estimated the cost would be anywhere from $50 million to $100 million.

The proposed changes include:

* Increasing the size of Henderson's emergency department by 64 per cent, from 11,000 square feet to 18,000 square feet;

* New ambulatory care facilities to be built at the General and Henderson;

* New ambulatory care facility for McMaster Children's Hospital to be built at Chedoke;

* McMaster University Medical Centre to expand its role in women's health.

The Urgent Care Centre is being proposed for the southwest Mountain because it is the most rapidly growing part of the city.

The exact location is still to be decided.

Martin said the facility could handle up to 40,000 visits per year for such things as broken bones and sprains and would probably be open from 10 a.m. until 10 p.m. Studies have shown it's not practical to keep the centre open for 24 hours because so few people come in the early morning hours, said Martin.

A key reason behind most of the changes is the move toward concentration of specialized services in hospitals.

Martin said specialization improves services and shortens wait times.

"In order to achieve the best care for the community, that is best done by having each individual hospital take on a special role in the system," said Martin.

Dr. Michael Marcaccio, chief of surgery at HHS, said specialization also gives Hamilton a competitive advantage when it comes to attracting and retaining health care professionals.

Dr. Peter Steer, president of McMaster Children's Hospital, agreed, saying when he interviews potential staff the key question is whether they'll be allowed to practise their specialty.

The development of two ambulatory care facilities at the Hamilton General and Henderson hospitals, which would handle day surgeries, outpatient procedures and diagnostics, would be the largest change in the plan.

It would mean the space that is currently used for in-patient care at McMaster University Medical Centre would be renovated and converted into ambulatory space for the adult programs.

The proposal is part of a move to strengthen the surgical and medical programs at the Henderson.

Martin said he expects the Local Health Integration Network to approve the changes because one of its priorities is child and youth health.

Martin said the changes will mean new jobs. He could not specify how many but said they will cover the "full spectrum of health care professionals."

Timelines

This is Hamilton Health Sciences' timeline for completing the changes announced yesterday. Some of it is still awaiting approval.

* Ambulatory Centre for Child and Youth Mental Health -- proposed completion date of mid- to late 2009.

* Braley Cardiac, Vascular and Stroke Research Institute -- to open late 2009. * Henderson redevelopment -- spring of 2010.

* New Urgent Care Centre on southwest Mountain -- early 2010.

* Rebuilding of Hamilton General's Emergency Department -- mid-2010.

* New Ambulatory Care Facilities at the Hamilton General -- early 2010.

* New Ambulatory Care Facilities at the Henderson -- spring of 2010.

* Transfer of 110 beds from McMaster University Medical Centre to Henderson and HGH -- mid-2011.

[SteelTown]

Originally Posted by SteelTown

To be built at the very end of McMaster Hospital, along that new street and next to the Engineering building that's under construction

Nope it's really gonna be built a Chedoke, I'm really surprised myself.

[raisethehammer]

people aren't happy about losing the emerg at Mac....long way for folks in WestHam, Dundas,Flamborough to go - downtown - for emergency.

[raisethehammer]

u can see more renderings online now:

http://www.hamiltonhealthsciences.ca...&item_id=17733


scroll over each hospital. there are some interior shots of new Henderson etc....

[fastcarsfreedom]

I'm in disbelief that they are considering removing a full-time ER at MUMC, that is completely off-the-charts if you consider the sort of growth that's going on in the western burbs, as well as the burgeoning population in the Westdale/West Hamilton area. When I first heard this announcement I assumed Children's was getting a separate ER--something long overdue--but I had no idea they were ditching the regular ER in deference to St Joe's and General...ridiculous short-sighted idea...the last thing the city needs is FEWER ERs.

[DC83]

Originally Posted by fastcarsfreedom

I'm in disbelief that they are considering removing a full-time ER at MUMC, that is completely off-the-charts if you consider the sort of growth that's going on in the western burbs, as well as the burgeoning population in the Westdale/West Hamilton area. When I first heard this announcement I assumed Children's was getting a separate ER--something long overdue--but I had no idea they were ditching the regular ER in deference to St Joe's and General...ridiculous short-sighted idea...the last thing the city needs is FEWER ERs.

I agree. But sometimes kids/babies need to be prioritized.
PLUS the other Centres usually send the majority of kids from their ERs to Mac anyway... I know from personal experience. So it kind of makes sense. Would have made MORE sense if they just built a new ward DEDICATED to Children's Emergency tho.

Burlington needs another hospital! Jo Brant is rediculous right now. I have friends that work in the labs there and say it's always crazy busy. Once Waterdown gets their 10,000+ residents from all the new development up there, it'll be even worse for the Hospital.

[raisethehammer]

this is a bad idea. I agree children should get great facilities and care...but don't close down the only emerg west of James St. You just mentioned Waterdown and the boom up there....folks from there come to Mac or Joe Brant...both are jammed as it is. this is very poor planning.

[hamiltonguy]

DARN. From what I understand from the Doctors in my family, there is no reason to be adding more Hosptials. It just makes things more complicated and inconvenient, for little to no gain compared to adding expansions to current Hospitals.

As they put it, either you're bad enough that you need the paramedic to save you on the spot, or you can wait 5 more minutes.

[HAMRetrofit]

Big hospitals are extremely inefficient. Adding additions to existing buildings is not the best approach. The building systems become ridiculous and there becomes problems with mixing old and new. If you have ever seen mechanical drawings for major hospitals they are extremely complex. Hospitals should be becoming more distributed and specialized.

[raisethehammer]

I'm betting that they'll come up with a new plan to keep the ER open at Mac. Way too much pushback happening from residents in Westdale/Dundas/Ancaster/Flamborough.
If it was central or north Hamilton they could get away with it, but these areas are the wealthiest in the city....when the rich folks yell, people listen.

[SteelTown]

The problem is there's really no room for extra space to build on at McMaster Hospital. So HHS can't build another wing for an ER for adults.

Though I do like Russ Powers idea of putting the urgent care at the Innovation Park. But that's taking up space for research related jobs. HHS did indicate a possible location at West Hamilton at the start so there's a chance.