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esquire · #21 Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 6:19 PM**

Forgot about that. Ouch...what a downgrade.

CoryB · #22 Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 7:12 PM**

CentrePoint parkade, proudly brought to you by the best in value engineering.

drew · #23 Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 7:15 PM**

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CentrePoint parkade, proudly brought to you by the best in value engineering.

Just to clarify - but that downgrade is "value-architecting". The engineer can only start after the architect has decided how it is supposed to look!

CoryB · #24 Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 7:54 PM**

Couldn't it have gone out as originally designed for costing, come back way too high and been sent back to architect?

trueviking · #25 Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 8:05 PM**

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Just to clarify - but that downgrade is "value-architecting". The engineer can only start after the architect has decided how it is supposed to look!

It's called value ENGINEERING because engineers always ruin everything.

drew · #26 Posted **Jun 5, 2015, 8:12 PM**

^ don't hate the player...

Cyro · #27 Posted **Jun 8, 2015, 8:02 PM**

Here's an older conceptual render( drawing)? of what Sp Po may have looked like..seems more feasible with all the talk reg: Winnipeg styled "value-engineering"..no?

Brings you back...

http://downtownwinnipegtrends.com

Look at all those cool funnelators..

esquire · #28 Posted **Jun 8, 2015, 8:19 PM**

^ That's probably more realistic. And yeah, what happened to all those funnelators? All these years later and still just the one, when it isn't being removed due to some kind of malfunction or fire.

Biff · #29 Posted **Jun 9, 2015, 2:05 PM**

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^ That's probably more realistic. And yeah, what happened to all those funnelators? All these years later and still just the one, when it isn't being removed due to some kind of malfunction or fire.

I have talked to some involved with the SHED streetscaping and apparently there will likely be only the one Funnelator.

You know, maybe because it is unique it will start to gain some love......or not.

I am obviously in the minority, but I kind of like it. Downtown needs more colour, more lights, more animation. If it is not Funnelators they I hope they can develop some other kinds of colourful art installations.

rkspec · #30 Posted **Jun 9, 2015, 2:36 PM**

It will definitely add a unique look to our city, i'll go beyond the norm and welcome them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Y09mDHsHk

CoryB · #31 Posted **Jun 9, 2015, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

I have talked to some involved with the SHED streetscaping and apparently there will likely be only the one Funnelator.

You know, maybe because it is unique it will start to gain some love......or not.

Or perhaps the cost the build and maintain the Funnelator, the footprint it needs, and the operational issues it has experienced all combined to put a chill on further rollout plans. Even at the relatively small size of the one by the library space for them would be tight. The original plan suggested that was a medium size one with ones even larger that could operate as a kiosk were being planned!

buzzg · #32 Posted **Jun 9, 2015, 4:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

I have talked to some involved with the SHED streetscaping and apparently there will likely be only the one Funnelator.

You know, maybe because it is unique it will start to gain some love......or not.

I am obviously in the minority, but I kind of like it. Downtown needs more colour, more lights, more animation. If it is not Funnelators they I hope they can develop some other kinds of colourful art installations.

I agree I really like them too. People were hating on them and saying "funnelators won't save downtown" — well no shit, but they make it a hell of a lot cooler (and memorable to tourists). Think with cool tech. art installations like them, Emptyful (library beaker) and the stuff on Market... it would such a cool draw if we became a hub for stuff like that... [are you listening Plug-In ICA + innovation alley?]

Cyro · #33 Posted **Jun 9, 2015, 5:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by rkspec

It will definitely add a unique look to our city, i'll go beyond the norm and welcome them.

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Quick fix to the video you posted above rk..

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"I am obviously in the minority, but I kind of like it"

Well, we're both part of the "Silent Minority"..BF..I've always liked what they were trying to achieve. Hopefully they'll have a second go at the concept and we may see something similar in the future, hopefully with improved weather proofing for our climate...

wags_in_the_peg · #34 Posted **Jun 9, 2015, 5:20 PM**

I'm fine without a bunch of funnelators, but unique lighted art instalations every block would be nice. make an "art walk" out of it.

Cyro · #35 Posted **Jun 9, 2015, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ That's probably more realistic..

blueandgoldguy · #36 Posted **Jun 9, 2015, 7:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

I have talked to some involved with the SHED streetscaping and apparently there will likely be only the one Funnelator.

You know, maybe because it is unique it will start to gain some love......or not.

I am obviously in the minority, but I kind of like it. Downtown needs more colour, more lights, more animation. If it is not Funnelators they I hope they can develop some other kinds of colourful art installations.

Another grandiose plan downsized and in this case, quite severely. I thought we were supposed to have several of these funnelators dotting the SHED?

Cyro · #37 Posted **Jun 9, 2015, 8:10 PM**

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Another grandiose plan downsized and in this case, quite severely. I thought we were supposed to have several of these funnelators dotting the SHED?

Sometimes, you have to jiggle the toilet seat handle before it can flush..If it doesn't work, you call in a plumber..

In other words, the technology they were trying to implement was not ready for 24/7 mass distribution and use, it happens. Hopefully they get it right the next time around.

cheswick · #38 Posted **Jun 10, 2015, 3:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cyro

Sometimes, you have to jiggle the toilet seat handle before it can flush..If it doesn't work, you call in a plumber..

In other words, the technology they were trying to implement was not ready for 24/7 mass distribution and use, it happens. Hopefully they get it right the next time around.

I thought the original vision of the funnelators wasn't that they would all be screens. They would all be different. One was supposed to be like a retail kiosk that was a funnel. Etc.

Simplicity · #39 Posted **Jun 10, 2015, 2:26 PM**

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...306768121.html

Dare I say, a good article in the Free Press this morning summarizing the mess going back to day one.

Cyro · #40 Posted **Jun 10, 2015, 7:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by cheswick

I thought the original vision of the funnelators wasn't that they would all be screens. They would all be different. One was supposed to be like a retail kiosk that was a funnel. Etc.

Quick article from 2013 sums it up quite well...

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"The futuristic Funnelator is the prototype and the first of (hopefully) many to pop up as part of CentreVenture’s plan for downtown’s sports, hospitality, and entertainment district (SHED)."

"“This one was designed and built to be the first one, to see how it works, and to test the capabilities of the LED screen. Until we run this one for awhile we’re not going to be building dozens of them in the immediate future.”

http://metronews.ca/news/winnipeg/88...nnium-library/

The prototype funkellator didn't pass the mustard test...