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HossC · #**39881** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 12:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location #2 (for this afternoon)

"4 x 5 Black & White Negative, Los Angeles Street, Vintage Cars 1957"

ebay

It's E Vernon Avenue in Vernon from near Hawthorn Avenue. Safeway was at 1925 E Vernon Avenue. Most of the buildings have gone, but the warehouse in the background with the large tanks on the roof is still there.

GSV

CityBoyDoug · #**39882** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 12:13 AM**

[QUOTE=oldstuff;7714154]

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

ScottyB likes tricycles.....me too. Yep, that's me on my fav tricycle.. a Velo-King, made in England in the 1930s.

The location is our rented house on Violeta Dr., Alhambra. The rent was $100 a month furnished which my mom thought was overpriced. [Minimum wage was 43 cents an hr then] We lived there for a year while our new house was being built in San Gabriel...about 3 miles away.
That's my stepdad's 1946 Buick in the garage, so this must have been a weekend.

I see that you are both wearing sweaters, or jackets. In my family we had a saying "put on a sweater, your mother is cold" which may have been the case here?

My stepdad always had Buicks too.

That day was a cold yet sunny winter day. A few weeks later we moved to the new house. I vividly recall that the new house reeked of fresh paint. My parents were then in a rush to get my brother in school because he had skipped a year and a half of school at that time. Both my brother and I were enrolled in school using alias names.

ethereal_reality · #**39883** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 12:15 AM**

Good job in finding 'mystery' location #2 Hoss.

Here's the large building at the end of the street. (northeast corner of E. Vernon and Alameda Street)

gsv

Do we know anything about Williams Warehouse Distribution Center?

I see there used to be an old railroad spur on the north side of the property. (or adjacent)

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ethereal_reality · #**39884** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 12:28 AM**

This is a great photograph CBD.

originally posted by CityBoyDoug

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Both my brother and I were enrolled in school using alias names.

Run it by me again why you used aliases. (something about being kidnapped?)

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John Maddox Roberts · #**39885** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 12:34 AM**

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;7714928]

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Originally Posted by oldstuff

That day was a cold yet sunny winter day. A few weeks later we moved to the new house. I vividly recall that the new house reeked of fresh paint. My parents were then in a rush to get my brother in school because he had skipped a year and a half of school at that time. Both my brother and I were enrolled in school using alias names.

Alias names! Oooh, is this something noirish?

ethereal_reality · #**39886** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 12:53 AM**

I always wanted an alias.

ethereal_reality · #**39887** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 3:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

This is the 3000/3100 west-side block of Figueroa, but from "behind." The big house on the corner is 3131 S Fig; we are on W 32nd St in this view looking east. The house was the home of BSD insurance man Otto F. Brant, whose granddaughter Marilyn (b 1931) would marry Otis Chandler.

One reason the house and its carriage barn--the bldg at left--are dilapidated is because they're about to be torn down. At least two of the cars seen are newish--the two right behind the phone pole at left, a Pontiac ('55 or '56) and a '55 Dodge. A demolition permit was issued for the house on May 4, 1956....

Thanks for this information GW,
but I'm still kinda' confused by which direction we're looking (sorry)
edit: I just reread your precise directions. I think I got it now.

This interesting survivor is in the immediate area (on 31st).

I've posted about this residence several yrs ago on nla. (the apartment bldg on the right has since been torn down)

gsv

Do you know who built this house GW? (maybe you already told us, but I couldn't find the older posts)

It's directly across from the old Stewart family homestead house that t2 mentioned earlier today.

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ethereal_reality · #**39888** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 3:34 AM**

This evening's 'mystery' location.

"4 x 5 Original Negative, Los Angeles Street, Intersection and Vintage Signs, 1947"

ebay

(to be honest, I'm keeping a key detail from you....but I want to see if you wunderkinds can nail the location

)
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ethereal_reality · #**39889** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 4:08 AM**

Here's something a little different than the previous 4 x 5 negatives.

"1950's 4x5 Negative~Miss Panama beauty queen, Los Alamitos Naval Air Station."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-4x5-Ne...IAAOSwAuNW276S

Do you think they're posing outside the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium? (the Miss Universe pageant was held there in the 1950s)

Miss Panama is what you'd call...cute as a button.

-the little girl in the swimming suit is wearing some sort of crown for the festivities.

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CityBoyDoug · #**39890** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 5:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This is a great photograph CBD. (I see the sun is in your eyes)

Run it by me again why you used aliases. (something about being kidnapped?)

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My psycho bio father was hunting for us, so we used alias names to avoid him finding us. There was a warrant for his arrest published at that time

My brother and our babysitter were involved in a car accident on Brand Blvd while crossing the street in Glendale when I was four years old. Our real names got into the newspapers and caused big problems for my mother. Next day we had to leave town in the middle of the night. After that, we used alias names.

My brother and I stayed with our relatives [left] while we boys were trying to lay low....that's my mom and stepfather [right].

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I had my alias name ''confirmed'' by the US Navy when I enlisted during the Vietnam Draft era. My Passport still uses this alias name. The State Department said it was ok with them.

odinthor · #**39891** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 6:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's something a little different than the previous 4 x 5 negatives.

"1950's 4x5 Negative~Miss Panama beauty queen, Los Alamitos Naval Air Station."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-4x5-Ne...IAAOSwAuNW276S

Do you think they're posing outside the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium? (the Miss Universe pageant was held there in the 1950s)

Miss Panama is what you'd call...cute as a button.

-the little girl in the swimming suit is wearing some sort of crown for the festivities.

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The buildings in the distance at left do look a lot more like Long Beach than they do like anything that'd be on the Los Alamitos base (I'm within walking distance of the base right now, as it happens). But what I'm looking at is the stylish middle-aged woman who's staring into the camera; my read on her is that she's Miss Panama's mamma keeping an eye on things . . . as well she should, because look where the guy's left hand must be . . . which I'd wager has more to do than one might think with what's up with his right hand. Meantime Miss Panama keeps smiling like a real trouper . . . as mamma thinks, "OK, take the photo already so we can get back to the hotel."

ethereal_reality · #**39892** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 6:14 AM**

lol. You're very observant odinthor.

sadykadie2 · #**39893** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 6:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

lol. You're very observant odinthor.

ScottyB · #**39894** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 8:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's something a little different than the previous 4 x 5 negatives.

"1950's 4x5 Negative~Miss Panama beauty queen, Los Alamitos Naval Air Station."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-4x5-Ne...IAAOSwAuNW276S

Miss Panama is what you'd call...cute as a button.

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Miss Panama is indeed a darling, and reminded me of Anacani, from the Lawrence Welk Show..............his "little Mexican girl". <wince>.
She's adorable, and the one of the few performers on the show in the 70's and 80's who had any soul at all. Not a lot of decent pics of her online, sadly. (okay, full disclosure: my wife and I will, on occasion, properly fortified of course, watch LW on PBS. I'm not proud, but I'm not stopping.)

http://welkmusicalfamily.com/anacani9.html

http://welkmusicalfamily.com/anacani9.html

We've seen some Lawrence on the thread before, thanks to ER.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location #2

"Lawrence Welk and his cast with a fleet of '57 Dodges."

https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCo...a_fleet_of_57/

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The good old Palladium.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...26a7d221c4.jpg

GaylordWilshire · #**39895** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 1:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for this information GW,
but I'm still kinda' confused by which direction we're looking (sorry)
edit: I just reread your precise directions. I think I got it now.

This interesting survivor is in the immediate area (on 31st).

I've posted about this residence several yrs ago on nla. (the apartment bldg on the right has since been torn down)

gsv

Do you know who built this house GW? (maybe you already told us, but I couldn't find the older posts)

It's directly across from the old Stewart family homestead house that t2 mentioned earlier today.

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I dug a bit-- nothing comes to hand right away. I believe you can see the top of the house at far right in the top pic...

UPDATE: 510 West 31st was built in the fall of 1896 by Jerome B. Anjer--a retired Pittsburg(h) manufacturer (he died in LA at 89 or 90 in 1910).... He moved to 31st from a house at 425 East 29th St, which also still stands:

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Originally Posted by odinthor

The buildings in the distance at left do look a lot more like Long Beach than they do like anything that'd be on the Los Alamitos base (I'm within walking distance of the base right now, as it happens). But what I'm looking at is the stylish middle-aged woman who's staring into the camera; my read on her is that she's Miss Panama's mamma keeping an eye on things . . . as well she should, because look where the guy's left hand must be . . . which I'd wager has more to do than one might think with what's up with his right hand. Meantime Miss Panama keeps smiling like a real trouper . . . as mamma thinks, "OK, take the photo already so we can get back to the hotel."

I'm not sure the "mother" looks old enough to be Miss Panama's parent...as for the officer...you might be right about the hand and that he seems to "feel" the need to hold his helmet "just so".... I wonder if the Sunbeam Alpine is his or hers?

HossC · #**39896** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 2:53 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This evening's 'mystery' location.

"4 x 5 Original Negative, Los Angeles Street, Intersection and Vintage Signs, 1947"

ebay

(to be honest, I'm keeping a key detail from you....but I want to see if you wunderkinds can nail the location

)

We don't need no stinking clues

.

Fletcher Drive at Crystal Street/Ripple Street.

GSV

Earl Boebert · #**39897** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 3:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I had my alias name ''confirmed'' by the US Navy when I enlisted during the Vietnam Draft era. My Passport still uses this alias name. The State Department said it was ok with them.

Interesting that they were still doing that as late as Vietnam. My uncle, a big strapping Dane, was named Cleomarius Fightmaster by my grandmother. High school for him was a steady series of fistfights ("Hey, Cleo! Wanna fight?") and in 1913 he ran away from home and joined the Army. In those days the name you enlisted under became your legal name. His recruiting sergeant picked "George A Gilbert" and so he was for the rest of his life. He was an artilleryman, chased Pancho Villa under Pershing, was one battery over from Harry Truman in WWI, (plus drinking buddy in the 40 and 8) and ended his career back in New Mexico as Provost Marshal at Alamogordo when they were training the A-bomb crews.

Cheers,

Earl

HossC · #**39898** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 3:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location.

"Original Negative, 1937 Los Angeles"

ebay

I thought it might be fun to try and figure out where the photographer was standing when he took this pic.

The giveaway here is the roof sign for the Kelley Kar Co on the foreground building on the left. Kelley Kar Co Used Cars was at 1225 S Figueroa Street, so the photographer must've been somewhere near the current location of original Convention Center.

eBay

The radio towers are at either side of the Trinity United Methodist Church at 1201 S Flower Street. Here's a view looking from the other side. Note the Kelley Kar Co sign on the left.

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Originally Posted by HossC

Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Slauson Slim · #**39899** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 5:26 PM**

Re: the 31st and Fig pictures, and the carriage house.

In that neighborhood, back in the early to mid '60s, there were a few big houses - some cut up into apartments - that still had carriage houses opening onto alleys. We used to hang out, and hold band practice, in a carriage house near 32nd and Hoover. We scavenged couches, lamps and other furniture, and set up a stereo. Very fine times.

Martin Pal · #**39900** Posted **Feb 17, 2017, 7:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Reasonably certain we have seen this 1935-image of the Rio Grande/Sinclair Station at 9884 Santa Monica Blvd. (Santa Monica and Charleville). This may have been at the SE corner of that intersection, but it appears that we are actually looking E x NE. Hiding in the background (to the right) is the Good Shepard School (148 S. Linden) and (to the left) the (former) Bekins Bldg on Santa Monica Blvd.

BRR, to be picky, that cannot be the Bekins Bldg. in that 9884 Santa Monica Blvd.
photo because the Bekins Bldg. you are referring to is at 8431 Santa Monica Blvd.