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Old Posted Jun 8, 2021, 1:27 AM
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I think the Hamilton arena could look good, but it depends on how it's done. It looks similar in principle to the recladding they did for Nassau Coliseum.
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It's a done deal. New owners of FirstOntario Centre.

City hands over operation of 3 key downtown entertainment facilities for up to 49 years

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...ties-1.6059106

For the next few decades the City of Hamilton has handed over running the FirstOntario Centre, FirstOntario Concert Hall, and the Hamilton Convention Centre — all of which will undergo multi-million dollar renovations.

Hamilton Urban Precinct Entertainment Group (HUPEG) is behind the $500-million winning proposal, announced in 2020, to renovate downtown entertainment facilities. The details of the master agreement were revealed Wednesday.

Thirty years are guaranteed, said Ray Kessler, city manager of real estate but the contract could run for up to 49 years.

The group — which includes Carmen's Group, LiUNA, dpai architects, Meridian Credit Union, Paletta International — takes over operations and maintenance of all three venues on April 1, 2022.

There is no monetary contribution from the city, which also retains ownership of the lands and facilities.

Kessler said "confidential" commercial agreements have been negotiated. He said "high-level numbers" and a "framework" have been provided.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger said it was a "momentous day, indeed."

"Once we're past the predominance of this pandemic, people will be yearning for entertainment, people will be yearning for new housing opportunities," he said, calling it a "great opportunity" to bridge economic recovery.

City staff started looking into having the private-sector redevelop the three venues on a motion from council in 2017.

"The signing of this master agreement is the 'end of the beginning', so now the real work begins as we embark on our ambitious and visionary plans," said PJ Mercanti, precinct group president and CEO of Carmen's Group.

City councillors ratified the agreement on Wednesday. Ward 4 (east Hamilton) councillor Sam Merulla said that it would save the city millions. A city media release estimates that amount as $155 million over 30 years.

"A lot of people didn't believe in it. A lot of people thought it was a headline-grabbing scenario," he said.

Arena renovations will take 2 years

FirstOntario Centre construction is expected to start in the fall of 2022. The city said it will take two years and be completed in two phases.

Proposed renovations — costing at least $50 million — include a new exterior façade and video board, a "transformation" of the lower bowl, an expanded concourse level, and a new curtaining system for the upper bowl balcony.

The group also proposed year-round access to street-level features on York Boulevard, like a Sports Lounge, e-Gaming zone, a food and drink options.

The long-term plan, the release says, envisions transforming into a "Distillery District-inspired area, with enhanced pedestrian capabilities and a complete live-work-play experience."

Should city council move forward with a $3.4-billion offer for light-rail transit (LRT) system in Hamilton, running alternately down King and Main streets, the construction may overlap.

Ryan McHugh, city manager of tourism and events, said he believes HUPEG is supportive of that deal and "would welcome the short-term pain" for "long-term benefits" of LRT.

He did not comment if simultaneous construction would compound traffic or obstacles for surrounding businesses, but said HUPEG is working with existing tenants on phasing construction.

Construction at the Hamilton Convention Centre and the FirstOntario Concert Hall will start after the arena renovations are done.

The latest city release says that plan includes $12.5 million in capital upgrades, expansion and aesthetic enhancements to the existing Hamilton Convention Centre and Concert Hall, plus a one-time $2 million contribution to the Art Gallery of Hamilton.

The group previously said more than $16 million in upgrades were planned for those venues. Kessler said "adjustments" had been made.

"They certainly identified issues with each of the properties as they had undertaken their review and due diligence, and we negotiated what the outcome of those considerations would be," he said.





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It's a done deal. New owners of FirstOntario Centre.
Just to clarify, the city retains ownership... HUPEG is operating and maintaining the facilities for 49 years (and probably forecasting a lot of revenue from the other developments they're planning, plus events)
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It's a done deal. New owners of FirstOntario Centre.

Black and gold seems to be the colours for Hamilton sports teams: Tiger-Cats, Honey Badgers, Bulldogs. Is there a baseball team?
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Black and gold seems to be the colours for Hamilton sports teams: Tiger-Cats, Honey Badgers, Bulldogs. Is there a baseball team?
Don't forget the Hamilton Tigers - the greatest team in the history of the NHL.
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Don't forget the Hamilton Tigers - the greatest team in the history of the NHL.
They would have won the Stanley Cup in '25 but they went on strike! I still haven't got over that...
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Black and gold seems to be the colours for Hamilton sports teams: Tiger-Cats, Honey Badgers, Bulldogs. Is there a baseball team?
Forge FC (CPL) bucked the trend by going with orange and grey.

In amateur sports, both the Hamilton Hornets RFC and Hamilton Wildcats (AFL) are also black and gold.
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Black and gold seems to be the colours for Hamilton sports teams: Tiger-Cats, Honey Badgers, Bulldogs. Is there a baseball team?
Always struck me as a "Sister Steel City" type of thing with Pittsburgh, where black and gold are the MLB, NHL and NFL team colors. I don't think it was intentional though.
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It's a done deal. New owners of FirstOntario Centre.

City hands over operation of 3 key downtown entertainment facilities for up to 49 years

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...ties-1.6059106

Blah blah blah...

Arena renovations will take 2 years

FirstOntario Centre construction is expected to start in the fall of 2022. The city said it will take two years and be completed in two phases.

Proposed renovations — costing at least $50 million — include a new exterior façade and video board, a "transformation" of the lower bowl, an expanded concourse level, and a new curtaining system for the upper bowl balcony.

The group also proposed year-round access to street-level features on York Boulevard, like a Sports Lounge, e-Gaming zone, a food and drink options.
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U.S. venue group OVG heads up Hamilton arena renovation in first Canadian project

ANGELA KRYHUL GLOBE AND MAIL PUBLISHED JUNE 14, 2022

When Los Angeles-based Oak View Group (OVG), a global sports and entertainment company, went looking for its first arena project north of the border, it found its sweet spot in Hamilton.

FirstOntario Centre (formerly Copps Coliseum) may have witnessed Canada’s 1987 Canada Cup victory against the Soviet Union, but the aging venue will soon be torn back to the studs and brought up to 21st-century standards as part of the City of Hamilton’s vision for a new multimillion-dollar sports, entertainment and cultural district.

The privately funded downtown project is driven by the Hamilton Urban Precinct Entertainment Group LP (HUPEG), a regional consortium led by Carmen’s Group and the Mercanti Family and Associates working in collaboration with venue operators, industry consultants and development partners, including Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA), Meridian Credit Union and Paletta International.
OVG, which recently launched its Canadian division in Toronto, was brought in for its sports venue expertise and entertainment industry connections; the renovated building will serve Hamilton’s hometown teams as well as visiting big-name acts.

OVG is making headlines for its arena projects in the U.S. and Europe. Founded in 2015 by Tim Leiweke, former president and chief executive officer of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, and entertainment industry trailblazer Irving Azoff, the company just announced a new US$3-billion arena-casino-hotel-amphitheatre development in Las Vegas; it recently completed the Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle and the UBS Arena in Belmont, N.Y.; and Manchester’s Co-op Live, at 23,500 seats, will become the largest indoor arena and live-music venue in Britain.

Stephen Collins, OVG’s president, global venue development and special projects, says some of the innovations built into the company’s other arena projects will be tailored to FirstOntario Centre. “None [of our projects] looks like they were produced by the same developer,” he says. “They all have unique elements that are appropriate for their markets.”

With construction work set to begin in late spring 2023, FirstOntario Centre will get a new exterior façade and video board and will better integrate at street level, along York Boulevard and Bay Street, with a year-round sports lounge, e-sports zone and local restaurants.

The overall redevelopment plan aims for a live-work-play experience similar to Toronto’s Distillery District and Maple Leaf Square (aka Jurassic Park), Edmonton’s Ice District and L.A. Live in Los Angeles, says Jasper Kujavsky, director of the arena renovation project and a HUPEG founding partner.

The arena has “good bones,” Mr. Kujavsky says, and is situated close to downtown hotels, restaurants, shops and public transit, including the future Light Rail Transit system. While the venue is currently home to the Hamilton Bulldogs (Ontario Hockey League), Hamilton Honey Badgers (Canadian Elite Basketball League) and the Toronto Rock (National Lacrosse League), the renovation will give it a better shot at hosting additional sporting events such as the Canadian Hockey League’s Memorial Cup, he says.

The three teams have not yet announced where they will temporarily relocate to during the renovation, Mr. Kujavsky says.

Inside the venue, with seating remaining at about 17,500, there will be expanded concourses, comprehensive transformation of the lower bowl, more comfortable seating and better sightlines. A flexible curtaining system will block off the upper-bowl balcony when not in use to help create a more intimate attendee experience in the lower bowl.

The venue’s locker rooms will be modernized with on-site training facilities and social spaces where athletes can unwind, and the roof structure will be reinforced to handle a modern scoreboard as well as rigging for concerts and shows.

The renovation will convert about 80,000 square feet of storage space to restaurants, suites and club areas. “That will change the dynamic of the building,” Mr. Kujavsky says.

“We can open up that space and provide a greater experience and help drive more revenue for the building and the community,” Mr. Collins adds.

Part of the plan is a sort of democratization of the venue’s social spaces, he says: “We come from the mindset that we need to provide something for everyone so there aren’t the haves and the have-nots. There are different opportunities for different areas of the building.”

OVG-designed venues offer traditional executive suites as well as theatre-style seating adjacent to club spaces for those who require only a few seats to entertain clients.

The luxury box as a driver of revenue is a significant development in modern sport venue design, notes Peter Sealy, assistant professor at University of Toronto’s John H. Daniels Faculty of Architecture, Landscape and Design – fast WiFi, the latest big-screen technology, sophisticated sound and light equipment, and streetscape integration are all must-haves these days.

“Revenue from luxury boxes plays a huge role in the overall financial picture,” he says.

OVG’s arena projects have veered away from traditional food and beverage concession stands toward innovations such as Amazon’s Just Walk Out technology, which is in Seattle’s Climate Pledge Arena and New York’s UBS Arena.

A customer’s scanned credit card is automatically charged when they take food and beverages off the shelves, eliminating checkout lineups. OVG is also looking at a marketplace concept for FirstOntario Centre that’s similar to the grocery store self-checkout experience, Mr. Collins adds.

With Hamilton as its Canadian entry point, OVG is interested in communities that wish to revitalize their sports and entertainment offerings or are underserved by their current venues, Mr. Collins says.

As for size, OVG’s sweet spot is typically just over 20,000 seats. “We try to stay in that ballpark because that’s what we feel we do best,” Mr. Collins says. “Our strategic relationships with content providers scale to that size and the economics work better for us.”

Hamilton’s new sports, entertainment and cultural district by the numbers
  • The $500-million residential-office-retail development will include 5 per cent affordable housing.
  • HUPEG is responsible for the operation and maintenance of FirstOntario Centre, the FirstOntario Concert Hall and the Hamilton Convention Centre for 49 years, with no monetary contribution from the city and with the city retaining ownership of the lands and facilities.
  • $12.5-million-plus in upgrades will be applied to the existing Hamilton Convention Centre and Concert Hall.
  • A one-time contribution of $2-million will be made to the Art Gallery of Hamilton.
  • Savings to taxpayers: $155-million over 30 years, according to a 2019 study by Ernst and Young.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busi...eid=914e0b1e91
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Fantastic to see, I can’t wait to see how it turns out. I wonder if they’re going to release any updated design renderings soon.

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With Hamilton as its Canadian entry point, OVG is interested in communities that wish to revitalize their sports and entertainment offerings or are underserved by their current venues, Mr. Collins says.

As for size, OVG’s sweet spot is typically just over 20,000 seats. “We try to stay in that ballpark because that’s what we feel we do best,” Mr. Collins says. “Our strategic relationships with content providers scale to that size and the economics work better for us.”
This intrigues me, when combined with their previous statement on targeting mid-sized markets. Looks like it’s going to potentially be more viable for our smaller cities to build larger arenas using OVG as an investment/development partner if they’re interested in doing so. I am hoping they somehow get involved in helping the situation in Calgary as well.

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In the article they discuss converting additional square footage into suites and club lounges/space.

After renos, any ideas how many club seats and suites there will be in the building.
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Looks like a smart deal for Hamilton. Best of both worlds.
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Looks like a smart deal for Hamilton. Best of both worlds.
It seems to be.

Hamilton city council wants the best of things, but is never interested in paying for them. So the airport was leased to an operator over a long term, and given freedom to expand the business there (mostly cargo, but passenger too)... and it seems to be working. This deal may bear similar fruits.

Perhaps that's the same in many cities across Canada, but this one has had a bad track record of investing in itself. For decades.
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That is a super slick logo!
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There's Hamilton Cardinals at Bernie Arbour stadium. Instead of black and gold there colour is red and gold. Close enough haha.

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From the exciting world of corporate naming rights, a new name for Bell MTS Place is coming on July 1... Canada Life Centre.

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From the exciting world of corporate naming rights, a new name for Bell MTS Place is coming on July 1... Canada Life Centre.
The CLC has nice ring to it.
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"We don't want any more Rogers or Bell arena names"
"Ok. Here's Canada Life Centre"
"No not like that."


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Given the overall unpopularity of the telcos I think Canada Life will be more warmly received than Bell MTS. To the extent that people actually care, I mean... I don't think most people will.
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Given the overall unpopularity of the telcos I think Canada Life will be more warmly received than Bell MTS. To the extent that people actually care, I mean... I don't think most people will.
I wonder how long people will still call it MTS Centre. I still call Scotiabank Arena the ACC and Rogers Centre by its original name of Skydome.

Do we end up like Ottawa where people just call it whatever it was named when they came of age?
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