Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[delts145]

Church-owned developer proposes 395-foot addition to Salt Lake City skyline

By Katie McKellar@KatieMcKellar1 - Deseret News - https://www.deseretnews.com/article/9000...-addition-to-salt-lake-city-skyline.html


Salt Lake City Planning Commission

The new office building — towering at 28 stories — would be the city's third-tallest skyscraper..."We’re pleased to be bringing another Class A office tower to downtown Salt Lake," said City Creek Reserve spokesman Dale Bills in a statement issued Monday, but he declined to comment further on the details of the project.

"We’ll have more to say in the coming weeks as we progress through the city’s approval process," he said...

Kitchen said no concerns have stuck out at him in his initial review of the proposed plans. Kitchen said he's confident any issues will be worked through, noting that it's not City Creek Reserve's "first rodeo" and they "know how to work with the city."

The skyscraper — named in planning documents as Tower 8 / 95 State — would include more than two dozen floors of office space and tower 395 feet high, according to blueprints from architects Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, a firm based in San Francisco.

The proposed height would require approval of a conditional permit in Salt Lake City's central business district zone, which caps height in the area at 375 feet.The additional 20 feet is being proposed for a curved parapet at the crown of the building


Salt Lake City Planning Commission

..."The subtle curvature along the top edge of the crown, coupled with the slight bow of the major elevations, serve to capture and reflect light in a continuous and dynamic expression throughout the course of the day," architects said in planning documents.

The roofline would contain "architectural features that give it a distinctive form or skyline," architects wrote, and would be designed for purposes such as "rooftop gardens, common space for building occupants or the public, viewing platforms, shading or daylighting structures, renewable energy systems, heliports" or other uses.

The sweeping, curved and glassy design for Tower 8 appears similar to another City Creek Reserve building: 111 Main, which was designed by the same architects.
Salt Lake City Planning Commission
City Creek Reserve, a real estate arm of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, has submitted preliminary plans to the Salt Lake City Planning Commission to build a 28-story office building on the corner of State Street and 100 South.

Also like 111 Main, Tower 8 would include an open lobby at ground level, with 27-foot-tall glass walls. The lobby would feature a "large media wall" to display Utah scenery and artwork.

To the north of Tower 8 would be a 3,460-square-foot, tree-shaded plaza with outdoor eating areas, seating and a water feature or work of public art. A "stone-clad meetinghouse" will scale down to meet the Social Hall Museum plaza, architects wrote in planning documents....


Salt Lake City Planning Commission

Salt Lake City Planning Commission

...The skyscraper's entrance would face the intersection of State Street and 100 South. Parking would be provided on two levels within the tower as well as on the sixth level of the adjacent Harmon's parking building, accessible through Social Hall Avenue.

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[delts145]

While I wish it were our new tallest, I am very happy about the described details. Sounds like it's going to be a very attractive high quality tower.

[airhero]

Originally Posted by Liberty Wellsian

395- 20(crown)=375

375/24 is around 15.6

How much of that you would attribute to the first 1 or 2 floors I don't know

Multiply by 28 add 20 back on for crown 450 ish

Wishful math? Probably

Planning documents show the lobby is 31.5 feet, the crown is 38.5 feet, 21 floors are 14 feet, 1 floor is 15 feet, 1 floor is 16 feet. 28 floors is likely a mistake, but in planning documents the building is divided into more than 24 sections, so that may be where the number comes from.

[DCRes]

https://www.ksl.com/article/46426616/uni...million-expansion-of-rice-eccles-stadium

University of Utah OKs $80 million expansion of Rice-Eccles Stadium

The University of Utah Board of Trustees voted unanimously Tuesday to approve an $80 million non-state revenue bond to upgrade and expand Rice-Eccles Stadium.

The stadium’s current capacity is approximately 45,800, although it held 47,825 people for a football game against the University of Michigan in 2015, according to Wikipedia. It is one of the smaller stadiums among PAC-12 universities.
The expansion would bring the capacity to 51,000 seats and include premium seating, which is presently sold out at the stadium, said U. Athletic Director Mark Harlan

[delts145]

Reno-Tahoe pulls out of competition for Winter Olympics, leaving Salt Lake and Denver

By Lisa Riley Roche - Deseret News - https://www.deseretnews.com/article/9000...ympics-leaving-salt-lake-and-denver.html

...“We have maintained from the start that a Reno-Tahoe bid would have to make sense economically, environmentally and socially,” Brian Krolicki, chairman of the Reno Tahoe Winter Games Coalition, said in a news release.

“Given the parameters and conditions presented, we cannot make the numbers pass muster. To continue, at this point, would be untenable and unwise,” he said. The news release called it a "necessary decision."

...The mayor said 89 percent of Utahns backed hosting another Olympics in a poll last year, unlike in Denver, where an initiative is circulating for the 2019 ballot that would give voters veto power over spending public money on a Winter Games.

"We don't have to go through that process here," Biskupski said, calling it an "interesting process" for Denver to have to embark upon, giving the timing of the USOC's decision.

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[Liberty Wellsian]

Originally Posted by DCRes

https://www.ksl.com/article/46426616/uni...million-expansion-of-rice-eccles-stadium

University of Utah OKs $80 million expansion of Rice-Eccles Stadium

Kewl

I would like to see that Parking lot go away, at least some of it.

[SLCLvr]

Originally Posted by Liberty Wellsian

It seems like there are more and more out of state labor getting shipped in, the local IBEW is doing commercials begging for journeyman electricians, there are billboards up and down I-15 for construction labor. Yeah the airport will be done soon but then we are going to jump straight into an inland port and the point of the mountain thing. I wonder if anyone has an idea how to address this. Should the state be sponsoring a new trade school? It seems like we could be being more proactive.

Definitely need more construction companies/labor. There is a 15 townhouse development proposed by Neighborworks on 200 South and 1000 West that has been planned for over a year. We just got a letter from our neighborhood council chair that Neighborworks still wants to build but they can't get a contractor to even bid on the project.

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by delts145

While I wish it were our new tallest, I am very happy about the described details. Sounds like it's going to be a very attractive high quality tower.

This elevation shows 24 to 25 stories and 395 feet. So, something is not correct in the reports. Perhaps, they are looking at going to 28 stories with the city, but are currently at 24 stories, OR 28 stories is incorrect OR they are going to cram in another 4 stories into it, OR 28 stories included all of the underground parking levels. I think the last one is correct. Where is UtPlanner to answer these questions?

[bob rulz]

Walking through that plaza to get to Harmons is going to feel very urban in a few years, let's get this done!

Originally Posted by delts145

Reno-Tahoe pulls out of competition for Winter Olympics, leaving Salt Lake and Denver

By Lisa Riley Roche - Deseret News - https://www.deseretnews.com/article/9000...ympics-leaving-salt-lake-and-denver.html

...“We have maintained from the start that a Reno-Tahoe bid would have to make sense economically, environmentally and socially,” Brian Krolicki, chairman of the Reno Tahoe Winter Games Coalition, said in a news release.

“Given the parameters and conditions presented, we cannot make the numbers pass muster. To continue, at this point, would be untenable and unwise,” he said. The news release called it a "necessary decision."

...The mayor said 89 percent of Utahns backed hosting another Olympics in a poll last year, unlike in Denver, where an initiative is circulating for the 2019 ballot that would give voters veto power over spending public money on a Winter Games.

"We don't have to go through that process here," Biskupski said, calling it an "interesting process" for Denver to have to embark upon, giving the timing of the USOC's decision.

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It's really difficult to imagine Salt Lake City not being the USOC's bid at this point. Denver is going to make it hell for them, whereas Salt Lake City is generally open to hosting it again.

And hey, I'm all for it, especially if it can force us to expand transit and open up our alcohol laws a bit more.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by Orlando

This elevation shows 24 to 25 stories and 395 feet. So, something is not correct in the reports. Perhaps, they are looking at going to 28 stories with the city, but are currently at 24 stories, OR 28 stories is incorrect OR they are going to cram in another 4 stories into it, OR 28 stories included all of the underground parking levels. I think the last one is correct. Where is UtPlanner to answer these questions?

As soon as Isaac gets a chance, I'm sure he'll clear it up for us.

Originally Posted by bob rulz

Walking through that plaza to get to Harmons is going to feel very urban in a few years, let's get this done!

It's really difficult to imagine Salt Lake City not being the USOC's bid at this point. Denver is going to make it hell for them, whereas Salt Lake City is generally open to hosting it again.

And hey, I'm all for it, especially if it can force us to expand transit and open up our alcohol laws a bit more.

It would appear that even the Co. new Governor elect is very much against hosting the Olympics? I can understand given the costs involved when starting up for the first time. It's a good thing Salt Lake has the 2002 Olympics under it's belt, and the venues have been actively used and maintained. Otherwise, the cost would be too prohibitive.

[SLC2GeorgetownU]

Unfortunately, 325 feet is correct for a 29 story "hotel", You are going off of the height of a 29 story office tower, Office Buildings have much higher ceilings then hotels. But honestly, the tallest would have looked goofy from that location anyway. This height is a much better fit, let us pray the design is something interesting.

And to the 28 story tower 8 dilemma you all seem to be having, 28 stories includes parking levels underground and the parapet included. 28 floors total from basement to parapet. Just look at the rendering, the lobby is 2 stories and the parapet is 3.


SAD FACE

[delts145]

Even with thousands of new apartments being built, rents in Salt Lake County keep climbing

By Tony Semerad, The Salt Lake Tribune - https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/11/13/even-with-thousands-new/

...After nearly 12,500 apartments were built in the past four years, there are now 6,650 units under construction in Utah’s most populous county, with more than half of those in Salt Lake City. Another 66 projects are proposed countywide that, if approved, would involve another 9,700 dwellings.
Yet the combined trends of new residents moving to Utah, continued expansion of the state’s job markets and low unemployment have led to the tightest sustained market conditions for rental apartments in Salt Lake County’s history, said Kip Paul, vice chairman of investment sales with Cushman & Wakefield in Salt Lake City. “We just keep hanging in there at virtually no vacancy and rents keep going up 4 to 6 percent a year as construction continues,” Paul said Monday. July’s apartment vacancy rate for Salt Lake County was, in fact, near its historic low at 2.7 percent, the fourth year in a row below 3 percent and a level that some experts associate with “full occupancy.” Even with record numbers of new apartments coming on line, “Salt Lake County remains in a housing shortage,” according to Cushman & Wakefield’s midyear 2018 Apartment Market Report, prepared for the firm’s would-be investment clients, developers and brokers. “Market indicators show no sign of oversupply, and new development is necessary to meet demand.” ...The report estimates that average rents have risen by about 40 percent since 2010. And they’re projected to keep going up by about 4.5 percent yearly over the next five years, analysts predict.Yet, in a separate study, Salt Lake City-based market researchers for Cushman & Wakefield found rents in Salt Lake County remain affordable relative to the size of its market and the incomes of its renters.


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[ucsbgaucho]

Originally Posted by DCRes

https://www.ksl.com/article/46426616/uni...million-expansion-of-rice-eccles-stadium

University of Utah OKs $80 million expansion of Rice-Eccles Stadium

Wonder how much coincidence there is between this announcement and the visit by the USOC committee today to tour the facilities, and have lunch at the stadium.

[ucsbgaucho]

Originally Posted by bob rulz

Walking through that plaza to get to Harmons is going to feel very urban in a few years, let's get this done!



It's really difficult to imagine Salt Lake City not being the USOC's bid at this point. Denver is going to make it hell for them, whereas Salt Lake City is generally open to hosting it again.

And hey, I'm all for it, especially if it can force us to expand transit and open up our alcohol laws a bit more.

Read stories about this last night, there are many in Denver that want to force this to a public vote next May on whether to allow "public money" to be spent on the Games. Also, the incoming new governor has spoken out against bringing the Olympics to Denver many times. Also read that officials there are talking about hosting some events "out of state".... how do you give the Olympics to a city or region that cannot accommodate the sports to stay within the whole state? Even Reno-Tahoe were going to have to use venues in Sacramento and possibly Vegas to host events. SLC is a no-brainer.

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by SLC2GeorgetownU

Unfortunately, 325 feet is correct for a 29 story "hotel", You are going off of the height of a 29 story office tower, Office Buildings have much higher ceilings then hotels. But honestly, the tallest would have looked goofy from that location anyway. This height is a much better fit, let us pray the design is something interesting.

And to the 28 story tower 8 dilemma you all seem to be having, 28 stories includes parking levels underground and the parapet included. 28 floors total from basement to parapet. Just look at the rendering, the lobby is 2 stories and the parapet is 3.


SAD FACE

A 29 story hotel with conference levels below is an extremely tight fit. maybe 9'4" floor to floor for the guest room levels. I was basing it off of 99 west residential tower, which is 30 floors to 377' and not including high ground level floors.

[Comrade]

The new stadium will seat just over 51,000.

[Pencil]

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[ucsbgaucho]

Not a skyscraper topic per se, but what are your thoughts on an Olympic Village for 2030? Where would they build one?

[stayinginformed]

Originally Posted by ucsbgaucho

Not a skyscraper topic per se, but what are your thoughts on an Olympic Village for 2030? Where would they build one?

I have heard that they would think of transferring the land owned by the Utah National Guard between the University portion of Fort Douglas and Research Park, build a new Olympic village there then transfer that again to the university to be used as student housing when the games were over-similar to what was done with Fort Douglas during the last winter games.

[bob rulz]

Originally Posted by ucsbgaucho

Read stories about this last night, there are many in Denver that want to force this to a public vote next May on whether to allow "public money" to be spent on the Games. Also, the incoming new governor has spoken out against bringing the Olympics to Denver many times. Also read that officials there are talking about hosting some events "out of state".... how do you give the Olympics to a city or region that cannot accommodate the sports to stay within the whole state? Even Reno-Tahoe were going to have to use venues in Sacramento and possibly Vegas to host events. SLC is a no-brainer.

I heard a theory from someone somewhere (honestly cannot remember) that given how increasingly cost-prohibitive and controversial the Olympics have become in general that both the Summer and Winter Olympics may eventually end up rotating between the same few locations over the course of 30 years or so, with maybe a new one thrown in here and there. Rio and Sochi were both PR disasters for them and cities seem to be increasingly reluctant to fund or even bid for the Olympics, but I see some cities as always being willing to both because the infrastructure is already in place and because their culture supports it (such as Los Angeles) or they've had successful runs with it in the past (such as SLC).

To me that theory makes a lot of sense, the Olympics gets increasingly challenging and controversial every time. So here's to a 2030 Olympics and 2058/2062 even?