ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 199

Kenn · #**3961** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 12:48 AM**

Please identify the area of the city in your Atlanta picture thread number 8. The current density looks impressive and the potential too. Also, the Charlotte link contains no photos. I'm curious as to what all the excitment over Charlotte is. I've never been. Thanks

AtlantaMustang · #**3962** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 2:48 AM**

10th and Williams hotel update:

Taken today by me

BunkyWay · #**3963** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 5:18 AM**

The opening ceremonies were tasteless, and they are a main reason for many dubbing the '96 Olympics the "Bubba games." They embarrassed much of America's elite, and non-Americans were not impressed. I'm sure the Europeans loved it.

cityenthusiast · #**3964** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 1:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by micropundit

Good historical analysis ,however the prospective view needs to widen a bit.
The most significant economic and demographic growth in North America over the next 20 years is going to occur in the 13 state region in the southern portion of the United States. In- migration from the industrial states has slowed but will continue; immagration from Mexico has slowed as well ,however the fecundity rate of the remaining population will be statistically significant; and the corporate relocations from California and other high tax jurisdictions will continue.
Atlanta's airport; colleges and universities and climate are all assets that argue well for the future. In short, Atlanta's competition for economic development now includes Miami,Houston and Dallas.
The key for Atlanta within this context is to have leadership that can effectively address its transit issues with more and better transit options and an emphasis on connectivity ; create more and better affordable housing options and develop a globally competitive center city.
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Dont leave out or underestimate charlotte either, while not as large as those other cities in recent years has snagged many companies and organizations right from under us, most recently chiquita corporation headquarters

Dale · #**3965** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 2:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by BunkyWay

The opening ceremonies were tasteless, and they are a main reason for many dubbing the '96 Olympics the "Bubba games." They embarrassed much of America's elite, and non-Americans were not impressed. I'm sure the Europeans loved it.

Lighten up. Anything that embarrasses America's elite and the Europeans is, by extension, on the right track.

TarHeelJ · #**3966** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 2:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dale

Lighten up. Anything that embarrasses America's elite and the Europeans is, by extension, on the right track.

mike1986 · #**3967** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 2:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by cityenthusiast

Dont leave out or underestimate charlotte either, while not as large as those other cities in recent years has snagged many companies and organizations right from under us, most recently chiquita corporation headquarters

Charlotte won Chiquita because of their incentives package. Atlanta actually makes more sense for them. Our biggest issue is Atlanta and the state of GA are both not aggressive enough with incentives... you can argue whether cities and states should be handing out massive incentives to lure these kinds of companies, but in this current economic climate local and state incentives, etc are critical in the fight to create/bring new jobs. Same thing happened with Time Warner... they picked Tampa because of incentives... considering we have CNN, Turner, and AT&T... Atlanta would have also made more sense for Time Warner, but in the end it came down to who was going to give them more money.

Also, can we stop debating whether the opening ceremony of the '96 Olympic games were "redneck" or not? This has nothing to do with Atlanta Construction.

micropundit · #**3968** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 3:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by cityenthusiast

Dont leave out or underestimate charlotte either, while not as large as those other cities in recent years has snagged many companies and organizations right from under us, most recently chiquita corporation headquarters

Allow me to clarify those comments. My intent was to expand the discussion of economic competitors that had been previously listed ,that included Charlotte, in order to focus on a much more future oriented vision for Atlanta's growth and development in the context of the global economy.

Corporate relocations have historically been an important measure of economic development, however, the ability to create and grow companies through innovation and entrepreneurship initiatives has become an equal challenge for cities like Atlanta. And it is in that arena that Atlanta has a competitive advantage with regard to its peers in the 13 state South because of its educational infrastructure(2 AAU schools) and Harstfield-Jackson International.
Hope that this makes things somewhat clearer.

TarHeelJ · #**3969** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 5:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by mike1986

Charlotte won Chiquita because of their incentives package. Atlanta actually makes more sense for them. Our biggest issue is Atlanta and the state of GA are both not aggressive enough with incentives... you can argue whether cities and states should be handing out massive incentives to lure these kinds of companies, but in this current economic climate local and state incentives, etc are critical in the fight to create/bring new jobs. Same thing happened with Time Warner... they picked Tampa because of incentives... considering we have CNN, Turner, and AT&T... Atlanta would have also made more sense for Time Warner, but in the end it came down to who was going to give them more money.

Also, can we stop debating whether the opening ceremony of the '96 Olympic games were "redneck" or not? This has nothing to do with Atlanta Construction.

The '96 Olympics has about as much to do with Atlanta construction as a discussion about why Chiquita chose Charlotte.

shivtim · #**3970** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by mike1986

Also, can we stop debating whether the opening ceremony of the '96 Olympic games were "redneck" or not? This has nothing to do with Atlanta Construction.

^This. Most of the discussion in the past few pages belongs in the Atlanta discussion forums, not in the Atlanta construction thread.

Streetscape improvements in Midtown seem to be getting underway. There are sections of Juniper and 10th street (both of which have received improvement grants) that are now blocked off. It could just be utility replacement though.

Renovation of the Academy of Medicine on W.Peachtree is now complete (http://midtown.patch.com/articles/inside-midtown-s-classy-new-event-venue#photo-8471665)

AtlantaMustang · #**3971** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 8:52 PM**

I drove by the 77 12th Street site a couple days ago, and as mentioned earlier it was fenced off. Now there is a bulldozer on site. Hopefully things pick up there soon.

ATLonthebrain · #**3972** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 9:49 PM**

Great news for Intown ATL:

Atlanta Tennis Championships headed to Atlantic Station

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-tennis-championships-headed-1264815.html?cxtype=rss_news

BunkyWay · #**3973** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 3:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by mike1986

Also, can we stop debating whether the opening ceremony of the '96 Olympic games were "redneck" or not? This has nothing to do with Atlanta Construction.

Who died and made you mod?

shivtim · #**3974** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 3:05 AM**

^^That looks fascinating. Good for Atlantic Station.

mike1986 · #**3975** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 3:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by BunkyWay

Who died and made you mod?

I don't need to be a mod... people go to this thread for updates on Atlanta construction projects and instead it keeps getting bumped up over a debate about the opening ceremony of the Olympics... it's annoying.

Shivtim:

"Streetscape improvements in Midtown seem to be getting underway. There are sections of Juniper and 10th street (both of which have received improvement grants) that are now blocked off. It could just be utility replacement though."

No, these haven't started yet. A part of the sidewalk on 10th is blocked due to the dual branded hotel construction and the work on Juniper is for sewer/water pipe replacement. 10th Street should start early 2012 and Juniper 2013.

briantech · #**3976** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 4:44 AM**

Has SOB (sorry, "Buckhead Atlanta") stalled on construction again? Everytime I drive by it never looks any different ...

ATLaffinity · #**3977** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 4:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATLonthebrain

Great news for Intown ATL:

Atlanta Tennis Championships headed to Atlantic Station

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-tennis-championships-headed-1264815.html?cxtype=rss_news

That's great news. It's actually in Atlanta now. I think it would have died quickly up in Norcross.

Should get some nice free advertising on the Connector.

Glad to see they were listening (either to the people or to ticket sales).

cityenthusiast · #**3978** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 5:08 PM**

[QUOTE=mike1986;5522507]I don't need to be a mod... people go to this thread for updates on Atlanta construction projects and instead it keeps getting bumped up over a debate about the opening ceremony of the Olympics... it's annoying.

Bunkyway you know he's right there's a different forum for all the things were talking about. The construction thread is only for construction. People come on here to get updated on highrise construction not the 96 olympics or me standing up for another forumer for that matter so lets get back to construction topics

cityenthusiast · #**3979** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by briantech

Has SOB (sorry, "Buckhead Atlanta") stalled on construction again? Everytime I drive by it never looks any different ...

Its looking like that isn't it this development keeps getting delay after delay pretty soon there just going to cancel the whole thing. Doesnt it cost them like a million dollars a year just to keep those cranes there? What a waste of money.

micropundit · #**3980** Posted **Dec 20, 2011, 6:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by cityenthusiast

Its looking like that isn't it this development keeps getting delay after delay pretty soon there just going to cancel the whole thing. Doesnt it cost them like a million dollars a year just to keep those cranes there? What a waste of money.

Here is a link to the latest Buckhead Atlanta update:http://www.reporternewspapers.net/2011/12/01/buckhead-atlanta-project-on-track-officials-say/

My $.02. Oliver McMillian's stance on the name isn't winning many friends in Atlanta.