CF Pacific Centre Developments

[officedweller]

... an it may be a revolving door for the entrance (as shown on plans). Hard to tell.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

... an it may be a revolving door for the entrance (as shown on plans). Hard to tell.

Never noticed that it was a revolving door but it probably will help with lots of air blowing through the store.

[officedweller]

Two-storey Apple flagship store in downtown Vancouver near completion


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/appl...ion-completion

[hollywoodnorth]

so is this thing gonna open for December holiday season?

whats the "word on the street" or has anyone talked with an orange vested guy to get the full scoop?

[CivicBlues]

Slowest. Apple. Store. Ever.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

so is this thing gonna open for December holiday season?

whats the "word on the street" or has anyone talked with an orange vested guy to get the full scoop?

You could have read the story officedweller posted...

Sources tell Daily Hive Urbanized the much-anticipated Apple store within the two-storey pavilion structure at the northeast corner of the intersection of West Georgia and Howe streets — kitty corner from the Vancouver Art Gallery’s North Plaza — will open just in time for the start of the holiday season.

[Jimbo604]

Daily Hive Kenneth Chan tweets out about Apple Store opening and throws shade on short people in single tweet!

https://twitter.com/iamkennethchan/s...36688295067653

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

Slowest. Apple. Store. Ever.

Yes. They've taken their time building it, that's for sure.

[djh]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

Slowest. Apple. Store. Ever.

I wonder if this is a significant (but not only) element of why construction projects cost so much more to build in Vancouver than elsewhere in North America; instead of taking X days you need to pay 2X, 3X, 4X for a team to make the same thing up here.


Slower workers? Less-qualified or less-skilled workers? I've no idea why, but what can be done elsewhere in a certain time is objectively slower in Vancouver.

Just look at the length of this thread for example. Oh, the other good one is the reno work in front of the Robson Street/Art Gallery. How many *years*?



(cue the city staff apologists claiming the project was so complicated...)

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by djh

Just look at the length of this thread for example.

To be fair - this thread started 10 years ago with the rumour that Sears might be leaving and the building repurposed for offices. That all happened reasonably speedily. The thread then had the retail pavilion to replace the zit, and the re-work of the 4 Seasons because it's all part of the mall complex, but they didn't appear 10 years ago.

Originally Posted by djh

Oh, the other good one is the reno work in front of the Robson Street/Art Gallery. How many *years*?

There were several different contracts - all built by private contractors. Jacob Brothers did the plaza and street closure, in two separate phases, and then the Province have hired their own contractors to finish off the parts around the Law Courts and the Art Gallery. The street closure plaza took for ever, and was really badly done too! (But they were still quicker than whoever's building the Rec Room on Granville)

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Changing City

To be fair - this thread started 10 years ago with the rumour that Sears might be leaving and the building repurposed for offices. That all happened reasonably speedily. The thread then had the retail pavilion to replace the zit, and the re-work of the 4 Seasons because it's all part of the mall complex, but they didn't appear 10 years ago.



There were several different contracts - all built by private contractors. Jacob Brothers did the plaza and street closure, in two separate phases, and then the Province have hired their own contractors to finish off the parts around the Law Courts and the Art Gallery. The street closure plaza took for ever, and was really badly done too! (But they were still quicker than whoever's building the Rec Room on Granville)

This extension needs at most a year to build.
They finished demolishing the much loved glass dome summer of 2020, and it has almost been 2.5 years since then. Full towers get constructed in 2.5 years.

Just like the escalator replacement at Granville Station, it is a laughing stock.

[dreambrother808]

No one here seems to have been intimately involved with this project or is able to share so judgements are random speculation.

There are plenty of valid reasons why projects get delayed, especially with a client like Apple.

Anyone who has worked in those worlds gets it. If you have no relevant experience, you don't. End of story.

[Jimbo604]

Guess people are impatient... 2+ yrs to buy their tech gadgets in a nice location instead of slumming it in the "same as every other store in the mall" current location.

To be fair when a six storey infill goes from demolition to occupied in same time as this has taken then there will be complaints, informed or not.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

No one here seems to have been intimately involved with this project or is able to share so judgements are random speculation.

There are plenty of valid reasons why projects get delayed, especially with a client like Apple.

Anyone who has worked in those worlds gets it. If you have no relevant experience, you don't. End of story.

Funny, as if you know.

The Apple Park building, corporate headquarters in SF costing $5bil got built in 3 years, and it is Huuuuge!

Ours is a laughing stock, plain and simple. End of story.

[cairnstone]

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

No one here seems to have been intimately involved with this project or is able to share so judgements are random speculation.

There are plenty of valid reasons why projects get delayed, especially with a client like Apple.

Anyone who has worked in those worlds gets it. If you have no relevant experience, you don't. End of story.

This is well said. Apple and corporate landlords are special and delays happen. I know that the CF is almost impossible to work with add delays are very much related to the landlord. Currently dealing with it. Also Supply chain is brutal right now. I have a fridge ordered in may delayed to November from Miele.

Security equipment because of the chip shortage is 9 months backlog. This i bet is 20 ish million TI and going to guess that there is 15 to 20 % of the contract has been change orders and site instructions.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by Vin

Ours is a laughing stock, plain and simple. End of story.

Who's laughing? Frankly, who has even noticed how long construction is taking other than some overly attentive members of internet construction forums?

Also, do you think COVID may have had to do something with the construction delays compared to the project you mentioned, which was completed in 2017?

[madog222]

Plus a broken glass panel, I don't want to image the lead times on those.

[Jimbo604]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

Who's laughing? Frankly, who has even noticed how long construction is taking other than some overly attentive members of internet construction forums?

Building mullion colours and construction delays are the backbone of discussions on this forum, thank you very much.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

Who's laughing? Frankly, who has even noticed how long construction is taking other than some overly attentive members of internet construction forums?

Also, do you think COVID may have had to do something with the construction delays compared to the project you mentioned, which was completed in 2017?

And Deloitte Summit got completed in 3.5 years with lots of glass and during the Covid Pandemic for two years. I guess no supplier chain nightmare or other excuses! It is a large building to boot.

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/bui...e-summit/29801

[officedweller]

Pic by me today.

Trees are planted.
Looks like there should be a final layer of pavers between the sidewalk and the steps?
Hard to tell, but right now it looks like one large expanse of concrete.
Not sure if the other 2 sides of the roof will get a shaded treatment?