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Old Posted Apr 29, 2009, 2:48 AM
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2009, 8:31 PM
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Dunkin Donuts

I would love to see a Dunkin Donuts Downtown. Also would love to have a real sports bar downtown.
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I would love to see a Dunkin Donuts Downtown. Also would love to have a real sports bar downtown.
Dunkin apparently wants to "re-take" the South when it comes to franchise units. Of course that implies that they had a stronghold here at some point in the past. I can only remember there being one location here... over on the Southern Bypass down from Montgomery Mall.

Seriously, they do have aggressive expension plans. Until they land here again, the donuts at G&S Donuts (Madison Ave. and Federal Drive) are pretty darn good!
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I would love to see a Dunkin Donuts Downtown. Also would love to have a real sports bar downtown.

Electra and I are waitng for a Krispy Kreme downtown. It'll make a killin'.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2009, 3:06 AM
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preach it about those G&S donuts. they blow KK out of the water.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2009, 3:16 AM
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G & S Donuts

Well I would love for them to have a place in the alley. That would be awesome. A Donut Shop that served coffee in the alley would do very well.
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Hmmm, I'll have to try G&S myself. I have a hard time believing they're better than KK.

My wife says G&S taste like store-bakery doughnuts.
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G& S Donuts

I have not tried them either my point is whether itd krispy kreme, dunkin donuts, or g & s donuts it would be nice to have one in the alley. What type of restaurant or bar would you all like to see next in the alley
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I have not tried them either my point is whether itd krispy kreme, dunkin donuts, or g & s donuts it would be nice to have one in the alley. What type of restaurant or bar would you all like to see next in the alley
A nice steak place. Not Longhorn or Outback. Something Montgomery doesn't have already that is more upscale. I love a good steak.

I know some of you do not like the new RSA Judicial Building project. But I have seen a set of the landscape plans (though I think there will be some small changes in plant selection). There will be some green roof technology on this one (no not the color green though it may still have a green colored roof). I am talking about low maintenance, low growing, drought tolerant plant material. It looks like there will be plantings on 2nd, 5th and 9th floors. Should be interesting. I haven't seen a rendering of the building though.
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A nice steak place. Not Longhorn or Outback. Something Montgomery doesn't have already that is more upscale. I love a good steak.
I heard talk of a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse for the longest time. Is that dead... or was it ever a possibility?

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I haven't seen a rendering of the building though.
I have not seen any either since the initial plans were presented and the opposition/informational meetings were held. I do understand that some of the design elements have changed. It would be nice if someone could locate new rendersings and post or link to them. Like it or not, the building is coming and will be a part of our skyline.
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Hmmm, I'll have to try G&S myself. I have a hard time believing they're better than KK.

My wife says G&S taste like store-bakery doughnuts.
I was raised on the original Price's Donuts here in Montgomery and those at G&S remind me of them. Of course it is all about personal preference...
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OCA REP: heard talk of a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse for the longest time. Is that dead... or was it ever a possibility?

wasn't that a possibility in the Renaissance?

but we ended up with The House
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I was raised on the original Price's Donuts here in Montgomery and those at G&S remind me of them. Of course it is all about personal preference...
Ohh Man, I loved Price's Donuts growing up! OK, you've convinced me to try 'em...


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I know some of you do not like the new RSA Judicial Building project. But I have seen a set of the landscape plans (though I think there will be some small changes in plant selection). There will be some green roof technology on this one (no not the color green though it may still have a green colored roof). I am talking about low maintenance, low growing, drought tolerant plant material. It looks like there will be plantings on 2nd, 5th and 9th floors. Should be interesting. I haven't seen a rendering of the building though.
That does sound interesting. If only someone can get the updated renderings on this building...what did I do with Dave's number...
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OCA REP: heard talk of a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse for the longest time. Is that dead... or was it ever a possibility?

wasn't that a possibility in the Renaissance?

but we ended up with The House
It might have been just in the hotel, but I thought it was talked about for an adjacent area downtown?
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Venues

I would personally like to see us get a Improv Comedy Club and a House of Blues downtown.
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May 1, 2009

State House expansion nudges along

Several legislators feel the current State House does not have enough room for constituents who want to travel to Montgomery to participate in government.

By Sebastian Kitchen

The Alabama House of Representatives passed a bill Thursday that would give a legislative panel the authority to sell bonds to build a legislative wing onto the current Capitol in downtown Montgomery.

The House approved the bill 47-36. The measure now goes to the Senate for consideration.

Lawmakers have said they are setting the groundwork for when the economy improves, and aren't going to start building yet.

"It's not like we're saying we're going to build a new statehouse any time soon," said House Minority Leader Mike Hubbard, R-Auburn. Hubbard, who is a co-sponsor of the bill, also is chairman of the Alabama Republican Party.

Hubbard said he might not even be a member of the Legislature when a facility is built.

"We have to have a new building," he said.

The state spends heavily for maintenance, including hundreds of thousands for regular roof repairs, and there is mildew, Hubbard said.

"It has outlived its usefulness," he said. "... This is not workable."

Hubbard, Rep. Richard Laird, D-Roanoke, and some other lawmakers said people are often not able to get into committee meeting rooms when they come to Montgomery to participate in government. Laird, the chairman of the Legislative Building Authority, is the sponsor of the bill.

Most of the opposing votes were members of Hubbard's party.

"I just thought the timing of this is very poor with the recession and education spending prorated," said Rep. Barry Mask, R-Wetumpka. "It sends a bad signal out to the voters that we're out of touch."

He said proponents are saying the bill only puts the mechanism in place to build a legislative wing, "but I don't think we need to be talking about a building."

Laird said the bill gives the authority the ability to start planning. He said the authority evaluated whether it was more cost effective to renovate the current building or to build a new one.

Renovating the current facility would cost $183 million while building onto the current Capitol would cost $167 million, Laird said referring to 2008 estimates.

The authority could sell bonds to fund building the facility or enter into an agreement with the Retirement Systems of Alabama, who would build it and lease the building to the Legislature.

"All of this is in preparing for when the time comes," Laird said. "It is going to be left up to some future Legislature."

He said public access is his biggest concern.

Laird said he was a member of the Legislature in 1986 when the members moved from the historic Capitol to the current State House, which was built to house the highway department in 1963.

House Speaker Seth Hammett, D-Andalusia, said he is for the authority moving forward when the economy improves and is against spending more money on the current facility. He said there are problems with the heating and air conditioning, some of the elevators, flooding in the basement, the roof, and mold and mildew.

The bill gives the building authority the power to take control of and close Union Street between Washington and Monroe streets, which separates the State House and the Capitol, and to control surrounding streets and parking lots.

The authority includes three House and three Senate members who are responsible for the management and upkeep of State House property.
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May 1, 2009

State House expansion nudges along

Several legislators feel the current State House does not have enough room for constituents who want to travel to Montgomery to participate in government.

By Sebastian Kitchen

The Alabama House of Representatives passed a bill Thursday that would give a legislative panel the authority to sell bonds to build a legislative wing onto the current Capitol in downtown Montgomery.

The House approved the bill 47-36. The measure now goes to the Senate for consideration.

Lawmakers have said they are setting the groundwork for when the economy improves, and aren't going to start building yet.

"It's not like we're saying we're going to build a new statehouse any time soon," said House Minority Leader Mike Hubbard, R-Auburn. Hubbard, who is a co-sponsor of the bill, also is chairman of the Alabama Republican Party.

Hubbard said he might not even be a member of the Legislature when a facility is built.

"We have to have a new building," he said.

The state spends heavily for maintenance, including hundreds of thousands for regular roof repairs, and there is mildew, Hubbard said.

"It has outlived its usefulness," he said. "... This is not workable."

Hubbard, Rep. Richard Laird, D-Roanoke, and some other lawmakers said people are often not able to get into committee meeting rooms when they come to Montgomery to participate in government. Laird, the chairman of the Legislative Building Authority, is the sponsor of the bill.

Most of the opposing votes were members of Hubbard's party.

"I just thought the timing of this is very poor with the recession and education spending prorated," said Rep. Barry Mask, R-Wetumpka. "It sends a bad signal out to the voters that we're out of touch."

He said proponents are saying the bill only puts the mechanism in place to build a legislative wing, "but I don't think we need to be talking about a building."

Laird said the bill gives the authority the ability to start planning. He said the authority evaluated whether it was more cost effective to renovate the current building or to build a new one.

Renovating the current facility would cost $183 million while building onto the current Capitol would cost $167 million, Laird said referring to 2008 estimates.

The authority could sell bonds to fund building the facility or enter into an agreement with the Retirement Systems of Alabama, who would build it and lease the building to the Legislature.

"All of this is in preparing for when the time comes," Laird said. "It is going to be left up to some future Legislature."

He said public access is his biggest concern.

Laird said he was a member of the Legislature in 1986 when the members moved from the historic Capitol to the current State House, which was built to house the highway department in 1963.

House Speaker Seth Hammett, D-Andalusia, said he is for the authority moving forward when the economy improves and is against spending more money on the current facility. He said there are problems with the heating and air conditioning, some of the elevators, flooding in the basement, the roof, and mold and mildew.

The bill gives the building authority the power to take control of and close Union Street between Washington and Monroe streets, which separates the State House and the Capitol, and to control surrounding streets and parking lots.

The authority includes three House and three Senate members who are responsible for the management and upkeep of State House property.
This was discussed extensively the other night at our forum gathering. The general consensus among our members is for this building to be located at Court Square. Unfortunately, the powers that are making the decisions seem intent on closing a vibrant street (Union) and pushing out the back of the capitol.

Is there an organized effort by the City of Montgomery, maybe including the Montgomery County Commission, to push for a Court Square site... or is this option dead? I am not in favor of closing a major artery like Union Street...
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Old Posted May 1, 2009, 7:02 PM
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Statehouse Expansion

To my knowledge the ability to push for the statehouse at Court Square died on the local level when Mayor Bright was elected to Congress since he wanted to have it at Court Suare and closing Union Streeet is horrible. We have inept State leaders
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Cookout Jubilee Weekend

I am welcoming my fellow forum members to my annual cookout Jubilee Weekend on Friday May 22, 2009 after 5p.m. holla back
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To my knowledge the ability to push for the statehouse at Court Square died on the local level when Mayor Bright was elected to Congress since he wanted to have it at Court Suare and closing Union Streeet is horrible. We have inept State leaders
In last week's Montgomery Independent, Todd Strange echoed the call for locating the proposed state house at Court Square. I just hope that some discussions are taking place behind the scenes to promote this idea.

T, you summed up the majority of our state leaders pretty well...
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