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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 3:20 AM
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Geoff Leo does it again...

The China Connection
How the Saskatchewan government partnered with a company linked to a businessman who was wanted by China for fraud

"[The CBC's investigation] has found an immigration company run by a man who was wanted by the Chinese government for fraud. That company, which is closely affiliated with Brightenview, has shattered dreams and torn apart families.

This affiliation is raising a host of questions about the provincial government and its due diligence.
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Geoff Leo does it again...

The China Connection
How the Saskatchewan government partnered with a company linked to a businessman who was wanted by China for fraud

"[The CBC's investigation] has found an immigration company run by a man who was wanted by the Chinese government for fraud. That company, which is closely affiliated with Brightenview, has shattered dreams and torn apart families.

This affiliation is raising a host of questions about the provincial government and its due diligence.
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Sigh.... sadly I don't think any of this comes as a surprise to any of us. I don't know which would be worse though:

1) If this news comes as a surprise to the government
2) If this news doesn't come as a surprise to the government

either scenario is troubling
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Sigh.... sadly I don't think any of this comes as a surprise to any of us. I don't know which would be worse though:

1) If this news comes as a surprise to the government
2) If this news doesn't come as a surprise to the government

either scenario is troubling

...this didn't occur to me. You're right - either scenario is really troubling.

The story Leo describes would cause a reasonable person to consider whether Brightenview should be examined closer for immigration fraud - given connections with Canmex & its sketchy dealings (which - while not proven in court - would absolutely be immigration fraud, if accurate). Fraudsters often create a series of companies to obscure the truth/create plausible deniability. They also like to create new companies when the previous one(s) start to attract too much attention (by the public, regulators, government, law enforcement, etc).

That the provincial government actually had officials warning that Canmex was committing immigration fraud should have set off alarm bells for GTH staff & political staffers (setting aside the fact that Brightenview actively referred to Canmex in their Dundurn & GTH documents until recently, a basic backgrounder on Brightenview's leadership would've turned up their connection to Canmex, and the concerns people were raising about it).
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Dishonesty, hidden costs taint Wall's big GTH dreams
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Published on: April 25, 2017 | Last Updated: April 25, 2017 6:38 AM CST

The Global Transportation Hub wasn’t supposed to be this way.


When the newly minted Saskatchewan Party simply referred to it as “intermodal facility” or “inland port,” the GTH was to be Premier Brad Wall’s shiny seal of approval for his new Saskatchewan. And the buy-in was enormous.


“The most significant project ever seen in southern Saskatchewan is the Regina Inland Port and multi-modal facility,” gushed Regina mayor Pat Fiacco in December 2008, at what was then known as the Canadian Pacific Railway’s intermodal facility.

The former Regina mayor was certainly one to gush, but one could hardly fault his enthusiasm. Getting CP’s container yard out of the middle of the city was — and still is — a very big deal.

Redeveloping those 20 acres of CP land would “tie in perfectly with the revitalization of downtown” said Fiacco, citing back in 2008 not only the possibility of a $500-million permanent domed football stadium (perhaps on the CP site), but also how getting the CP yards out of the Regina downtown was a perfect fit with the new Saskatchewan Transportation Company (STC) head office and bus terminal. Uh huh.

And an inland port where the CPR mainline, Soo Line, the Trans-Canada Highway and Highways 6 and 11 meet made sense for the whole province. It seemed to make even more sense in July 2008, when Loblaw Companies announced its GTH plans for a $350-million, one-million-square-foot distribution facility that would employ 750 people by 2010 and 1,500 by now.




“It’s a game-changer for us,” said Wall at the 2011 CP intermodal/GTH sod-turning announcement, calling the GTH “one of the most important economic development projects for, I think, generations.” Saskatchewanians should ready themselves for more good-news announcements at the GTH, Wall said.


But that was before GTH private-tenant deals like the one with Kal Tire fell through.

That was before Wall’s government started pumping more and more dollars into the project while simultaneously ordering Crown corporations to backfill otherwise unoccupied GTH space.

Perhaps there is some logic in the Saskatchewan Liquor and Gaming Authority needing GTH distribution space. However, what’s the viable explanation for why SaskPower, suddenly in 2013, desperately needed $25 million worth of GTH land that the electricity utility now says it is unlikely to develop? Coincidentally, the deal was done about the time then-SaskPower and GTH minister Bill Boyd had to ensure the GTH had enough cash to cover the GTH’s cost of purchasing 204 acres at $103,000 an acre.

Ah, yes, all this was before the GTH became synonymous with that now rather nefarious $21-million land purchase — a vast overpayment, says provincial auditor Judy Ferguson, that made political and business associates of Boyd and the Sask. Party $6 million and $5 million, respectively.

Wall has vehemently defended all this, disingenuously arguing GTH land is worth as much as $220,000 an acre.

Well, that depends on who you are. Sometimes, GTH land is worth nothing.

The CBC’s Geoff Leo has revealed a confidential document showing the Ministry of Highways agreed to provide CP with 300 acres of serviced, GTH land “at no cost to CP and free and clear of all encumbrance … in consideration of CP’s contribution to the project.”

Even though the Saskatchewan Information and Privacy Commissioner has said it should do so, the Wall government has refused to release the above information in its eight-year-old, 2009 contract with CP now detailed by the CBC. It has cited CP’s confidentiality,

Yes, taxpayers. In our finest 125-year-Canadian tradition, you have gifted the CPR with more free land — $66 million worth, if you use Wall’s estimate of $220,000 an acre. (CP already got $7.5 million for selling its downtown land to the City of Regina). And his government wasn’t going to bother to tell you?

Admittedly, one wouldn’t expect CP to relocate for nothing. Moreover, GTH’s inland port/intermodal facility concept remains a solid concept. Who knows? Maybe one day it will all pay for itself.
But right now, Wall’s big GTH dream is tainted with scandal, dishonesty and failure to disclose.

Murray Mandryk is the political columnist for the Regina Leader-Post.

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Does anyone know the status of the Loblaws warehouse? Has it reached its full potential (ie: 1500 employees)? Or is it operating at less than expected volume? I can see Pinkie Road from my high-rise and I don't seem to see as many trucks travelling down this road. But then again, I don't spend much time looking.
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Brad is a self-serving jerk. I'd call him an idiot but he's doing an excellent job lining his and friends pockets with money.

To quote Vogon Prostetnic Jeltz: "death's too good for them."
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Brad is a self-serving jerk. I'd call him an idiot but he's doing an excellent job lining his and friends pockets with money.

To quote Vogon Prostetnic Jeltz: "death's too good for them."
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This is the correct response.

They've done such a good job at Dundurn that they clearly deserve the attention and nice photo op on this one.
Can the Saskatchewan government be truly this blind as to what is going on with this company? Is it any wonder that I read the Sask NDP party is ahead in the polls?
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Can the Saskatchewan government be truly this blind as to what is going on with this company? Is it any wonder that I read the Sask NDP party is ahead in the polls?
I thought they were still behind? If they had a strong, effective, and more centrist leader, they'd be way out in front by this time though...

Edit: Just saw the new poll. Big lead in Regina for the NDP, smaller lead in Stoon and dead heat in rest of province. Some of these issues (including those in this thread) could start a bit of a death by a thousand cuts situation (bit of a pun considering the provincial budget :p)

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Does anyone know the status of the Loblaws warehouse? Has it reached its full potential (ie: 1500 employees)? Or is it operating at less than expected volume? I can see Pinkie Road from my high-rise and I don't seem to see as many trucks travelling down this road. But then again, I don't spend much time looking.
I back onto the bypass between Albert & Lewvan - there are a lot more Loblaws semis going by than any other branded semi. Not scientific - there are a hundred reasons why Loblaws would have more semis on this section of highway than WalMart, Safeway, McDonalds, etc... not to mention the use of leased (aka lacking corporate branding) rigs. But, I was in the house before Loblaws' warehouse opened, and I'm quite certain their traffic volume has increased massively.

(I realize this also doesn't answer your fundamental question about full potential/capacity... I don't know what the volume would look like if it was undercapacity vs. at capacity. I do know that I see A LOT of Loblaws semis)

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I thought they were still behind? If they had a strong, effective, and more centrist leader, they'd be way out in front by this time though...
New poll came out today that has the NDP in the lead (49% to 40%). But polls haven't exactly been accurate in the past 5+ years. If they were, the Wildrose would be leading Alberta; Justin might have a minority (at best); Britain wouldn't be leaving the EU; and the Americans' Cheezie with hair would still be golfing, but wouldn't have access to the launch codes.
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I back onto the bypass between Albert & Lewvan - there are a lot more Loblaws semis going by than any other branded semi. Not scientific - there are a hundred reasons why Loblaws would have more semis on this section of highway than WalMart, Safeway, McDonalds, etc... not to mention the use of leased (aka lacking corporate branding) rigs. But, I was in the house before Loblaws' warehouse opened, and I'm quite certain their traffic volume has increased massively.

(I realize this also doesn't answer your fundamental question about full potential/capacity... I don't know what the volume would look like if it was undercapacity vs. at capacity. I do know that I see A LOT of Loblaws semis)



New poll came out today that has the NDP in the lead (49% to 40%). But polls haven't exactly been accurate in the past 5+ years. If they were, the Wildrose would be leading Alberta; Justin might have a minority (at best); Britain wouldn't be leaving the EU; and the Americans' Cheezie with hair would still be golfing, but wouldn't have access to the launch codes.
Actually, the US polls were within the margin of error. Trump was simply far more efficient in his vote-getting than Clinton. She still won the popular vote though by about 4%.
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... the Americans' Cheezie with hair would still be golfing, but wouldn't have access to the launch codes.
Could you mean "Cheeto"? Probably doesn't matter anyway!
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Actually, the US polls were within the margin of error. Trump was simply far more efficient in his vote-getting than Clinton. She still won the popular vote though by about 4%.
yep - you're right.
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I have but one thing to say about the GTH: I told you so.
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I have but one thing to say about the GTH: I told you so.
The consistency in this forum re the GTH is interesting... do we have any cheerleaders anymore? I don't think so. In virtually every other forum there's at least a couple cheerleaders/devil's advocates for even the sketchiest projects/plans.

I've been in the 'this is going to be a gongshow' side of the GTH discussion since my very first encounter with it (2008/09-ish). In the early days, my opinion was based primarily on the fact that the GTH leadership & staff were clearly in over their heads... not that the GTH itself was a bad concept. That realization came later.
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When it was announced, I was in the camp that believed it was never going to be a huge success, but that i might do okay and well enough to keep itself going.

Needless to say, that barely-optimistic view disappeared real fast!
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Interesting that the first 2 pages of this thread appear to be all out of town posters including the OP. By page 3 there is some local content including by a now closed account "timewilltell" who was a big cheerleader and writes exactly like one of our current posters.
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regarding the Winnipeg-Regina comparisons...

Lets consider politics..Ideological polarization is getting stronger then ever before.......Saskatchewan may never have an NDP government again...We have turned the corner here and I believe right of center governments are here to stay, like our neighbour Alberta.

Manitoba i assume is still strong NDP and will remain so...The Sask Party here are not exactly fans of organized Labor..and believe me that is an understatement! plus Mayor Pat is a strong Conservative .
Wow! I can see why this guy stopped posting in 2013.
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While Regina’s real estate market may have slowed from the record pace of recent years, demand for industrial land is still rolling at highway speed.

Colliers International recently released its annual survey of real estate markets across the country. As expected, it reflected an increase in office and residential vacancies in Regina, but also showed a very tight industrial market – with the vacancy rate in Regina the third-lowest in the country behind only Toronto and Vancouver.
“For five or six years, we were very robust,” said Glen Hill, Vice President and Partner with Colliers International in Regina. “We’ve slowed, but slowed to what I would consider a normal level – a plateau that is similar to what we used to see. We’re not going backwards.
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The consistency in this forum re the GTH is interesting... do we have any cheerleaders anymore? I don't think so. In virtually every other forum there's at least a couple cheerleaders/devil's advocates for even the sketchiest projects/plans.

I've been in the 'this is going to be a gongshow' side of the GTH discussion since my very first encounter with it (2008/09-ish). In the early days, my opinion was based primarily on the fact that the GTH leadership & staff were clearly in over their heads... not that the GTH itself was a bad concept. That realization came later.
I am a fan of the GTH but not a fan of how it was managed or over promised.

What it has accomplished
- moving rail yards out of the urban area of Regina (something Saskatoon is still trying to do).
- attracted a couple of large distributions centres. That said I think Loblaws is the only one that is a net positive for the promise. The others would have ended up in an industrial park around Regina or Saskatoon in any case.

The problem is all the politics around what is in reality an industrial park and the hype of how this will change the economic landscape of Regina.

It is now time to get rid of the authority as a weird government agency. Treat it like any other low profile industrial park.
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