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Originally Posted by Vicelord John
you're blind.
You ever been to the Mexican fiesta called Westgate?
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What does Westgate being a 'Mexican fiesta' have to do with DOWNTOWN GLENDALE? If you don't think Downtown Glendale has a nice stock of buildings, shady streets, and a ton of potential you're crazy.
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Originally Posted by combusean
Hoover, new zoning regulations aren't going to encourage more developers. If anything they'll encourage teardowns and landbanking, the opposite of what they should do in a recession. If people wanted to build there they would be.
I'm with glynn on this one, commuter rail is the only thing that would put downtown Glendale on anyone's radar screen.
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Tear downs of what? Empty lots? Alfalfa fields? Overlays won't encourage tear downs of Glendales current stock of buildings at all, especially if they do the overlays properly and include historic preservation elements in them.
Its mind numbing that you guys think people would build good walkable stuff in Downtown Glendale with zoning that specifically forbids that. Do you have any example of this ever happening anywhere in this country at any time? By this 'logic' the Urban Form zoning guidelines for Downtown will encourage more land banking and tear downs (which obviously they won't).
Commuter rail will help downtown Glendale, and hopefully in the next 20 years or so it'll happen. There's still a very real possibility of LRT going through Glendale as well (since its what Phoenix wants and they may be able to strong arm Glendale) which would obviously help too.
Glynn, I disagree with your basic premise that Phoenix developing Midtown was a mistake. Sure it took away from downtown in the short to medium run, but in the long run it was the right thing to do. Most big cities have secondary CBDs, and now that Phoenix is filling out Midtown will likely settle into that role nicely.