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Where the hell did everyone go?
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Where the hell did everyone go?
Thats a good question.

Three days without a post must be record for this thread.

The whole Atlantic page has been dead lately. Did everyone get scared of the snow and fly south or something?
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Thats a good question.

Three days without a post must be record for this thread.

The whole Atlantic page has been dead lately. Did everyone get scared of the snow and fly south or something?
relax relax, things will pick up again. Does anyone have any renderings for Blue Rock Court because what i've seen so far looks like hot ghaaaabbaaggeee!!!
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Costco

From the TJ:

Costco, East Point reach a deal

The way has been cleared for big-box retailer Costco to come to the city. City manager Terry Totten wrote in a letter to common council, presented to the politicians Monday night, that East Point Shopping and Costco have entered into a financial agreement, paving the way for the retailer to set up shop on the east side. Totten did not provide any other details. Mayor Ivan Court said the store will become an anchor for other retailers in the city and will attract further investment here.
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Good news to see things in the paper on Costco.

Originally Northrup and Costco had agreed in principle on a price for the land. When northrup hired a contractor to actually prepare the site it was costing much more than he anticipated. Northrup halted the preparation and asked Costco for more money for the land. This must have finally been resolved.

Apparently Mr Northrup has also served notice to the entire trailer park behind Kents that they must be out by March of 2010 so it is probably safe to assume he also has plans for that land.

I hope that everyone had a good holiday season!
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Good news to see things in the paper on Costco.
I wonder why Northrup is spending so much $$ on flattening that rocky hill? I always thought it would have been nicer and more unique to have the box stores all on different levels with more pedestrian trails throughout. And speaking of that, I wonder why they stuck the hotel way at the back behind Indigo and not at the edge of the cliff so that hotel patrons would have a nice view of Mall City. I'm glad he's doing all this for the City, but I would have laid things out a little differently.
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Smile Construction activity expected to begin on Costco site

January 06, 2009 - 5:43 pm
By: News 88-9's Denise Barkhouse







SAINT JOHN, NB - Costco is one step closer to becoming an east side shopping reality.

The developers have made it known that they're ready to move ahead by requesting the necessary legal documents and building permits to get rolling.

Saint John Mayor Ivan Court says this is great news for retailers on the city's east side and expects consumers throughout Greater Saint John and beyond to flock to the giant bulk retailer.

Court says crews are working on levelling the ground as we speak and believes steel work for the building will begin in the summer

He says with a big anchor like Costco going up , the developers will have to include the re-alignment of Retail Drive and Ashburn Road in future talks.


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Thought you guys might find this interesting. I think it was Helladog who remarked a while back about how critical the TJ is about everything done at city hall. I guess city hall noticed too.
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Saint John mayor dares newspaper publisher to debate
Last Updated: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 | 2:24 PM AT

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Tired of what he calls years of negative coverage, Saint John Mayor Ivan Court has challenged the publisher of New Brunswick's provincial newspaper to a debate on the issues facing the city.

In Monday night's council meeting, Court remarked that the Telegraph-Journal has been increasingly negative in its coverage of him and city hall staff over the last couple of years, so he wants to fight back.

The mayor told councillors the next Telegraph-Journal employee he'll speak to will be publisher Jamie Irving, and he'll do it in a broadcast debate at a media outlet not owned by the powerful Irving family.

Until then, he's refusing all interview requests from the paper — and banning it from his office.

"As of today, I've asked my staff to cancel the Telegraph-Journal. It's my first budget cut," he said. "It will save the citizens of Saint John, from my office, $190."

The Telegraph-Journal is owned by Brunswick News Inc., which is owned by the Irvings. The paper is distributed provincewide, but its city section is specifically focused on Saint John and the counties of southern New Brunswick.

'The problem is not with the newspaper,' says editor
Shawna Richer, the editor of the Telegraph-Journal, defended the newspaper, pointing the finger back at the politicians. Richer also dismissed the idea of a debate between the newspaper's publisher and the mayor.

"The problem is not with the newspaper. The problem is with the culture of inefficiency and sometimes questionable leadership at city hall. And that's something that our newspaper, newspapers everywhere, cover," Richer told the CBC on Tuesday.

Richer said the criticism of Court and other city decisions has nothing to do with the fact the newspaper endorsed one of the mayor's rivals during the 2008 municipal election. She said the only thing the newspaper is opposed to is the existing management at the city, high taxes and the sub par services offered in Saint John.

"This isn't personal," she said.

"This is, you know, our job is to advocate for the people … for the taxpayers and their residents. And any good newspaper would take exactly the same position," she said.
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Old Posted Jan 7, 2009, 1:31 AM
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Apparently Mr Northrup has also served notice to the entire trailer park behind Kents that they must be out by March of 2010 so it is probably safe to assume he also has plans for that land.
I had a feeling that was going to happen eventually.
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Boom time in the Kennebecasis

Development Hampton Road is so busy it's beginning to rival Rothesay Avenue as the area's number one commercial strip

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QUISPAMSIS - Hampton Road is turning into the Kennebecasis Valley's version of Rothesay Avenue.

The main artery through both Rothesay and Quispamsis has seen several new businesses open their doors during the past year.

"We've had a fair amount of commercial development and most will be opening in 2009," said Rothesay Mayor Bill Bishop, whose town gained the most new businesses on the strip.

The new outlets along Hampton Road in Rothesay include The Window Shop Home Improvement Centre and Design by Valley Dream Kitchens located next to the double drive-through Tim Hortons. The businesses - owned by Dave Long - are housed in the same building.

Oakville Lane was a busy spot in 2008 with a new dentists' office opening on the corner of Oakville and Hampton roads. The office of doctors Ron Buckley, Janet Bailey and Aaron Tait is located across from the Sobeys Plaza.

A new country-style market also began operating on the main drag. The Brookside Market, distinguishable by its log home look, opened next to McPhee's Bakery.

The final major development is on the north corner of Clark and Hampton roads. Developer Phil Broderson is putting the finishing touches on a new building. The commercial space is about 13,000 square feet.

"It's just a matter of finishing things up and getting tenants in there," Bishop said.

As for the Quispamsis side, RBC Royal Bank opened a branch at the corner of Hampton and Pettingill roads with an A&W restaurant built behind it. Quispamsis development officer Gary Losier said there's still room for new commercial growth along Hampton Road.

"We've got land that was pre-zoned commercial along Hampton Road and it goes from the Peat Drive intersection down to Donlyn Drive," Losier said. "Basically the area from the TD (Bank) mall to the old vacant park area."

A parcel of land beside the old park has already been sold and will be developed into a new dentist's office.

While some land remains on both sides of the Hampton Road, it appears the prime commercial space in 2009 will be on Millennium Drive.

"Only about half of it has been developed right now, so there's plenty of land up there," Losier said.

Quispamsis mayor Murray Driscoll said once the Parkland in the Valley nursing home and retirement community being developed by Shannex New Brunswick Inc. comes online, it should spur on development around it. Driscoll had previously said he'd like to see a Wal-Mart in Quispamsis, and Millennium Drive would be a logical location. Driscoll said he's not been approached or had discussions with the retail giant, but said the town is open to the possibility.

As for the Rothesay portion of Millennium Drive, Bishop said changes to the municipal plan could make the area more attractive.

"Early in the New Year we'll be presenting our revisions to the municipal plan. In that will be some changes to the Millennium Drive area that may make it more friendly to commercial development."
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At $1.5B, retail sales way up
Published Monday January 5th, 2009
Report Pre-recession at least, study shows that economic indicators remain positive for the City

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- Saint John Board of Trade president Imelda Gilman sees nothing but good news in the latest Vital Signs report that shows retail sales and the employment growth rate both on the way up.

"With what we've got planned for projects in the region, I'm thinking positively that this should continue," Gilman said, adding that some of her optimism is dependent on how the economic downturn plays out on the national stage.

"Hopefully, the federal government can instill some consumer confidence. In our region of the country - particularly in New Brunswick - we're not hearing projects are being stopped and I'm encouraged by that."

In the "work" category of Vital Signs, statistics show that, in 2006-2007, the Saint John Census Metropolitan Area employment growth rate of 6.6 per cent - or 4,100 jobs - is up from 1.6 per cent per year between 2000 and 2006, compared to Canada's 2006-2007 growth rate of 2.3 per cent and New Brunswick's 2.1 per cent.

Vital Signs is an annual community checkup conducted by more than a dozen community foundations across Canada to measure each city's vitality, identify trends and assign grades in at least 10 areas critical to quality of life.

The local survey is a project of the Greater Saint John Community Foundation.

The first survey was done in Saint John in 2006 and the foundation plans to continue taking part for at least a decade.

The report uses a one- to five-star rating system, with one star indicating a situation in dire need of corrective action and five stars being a top grade. The city did not get any five-star ratings but did receive four stars in six areas.

According to the report, Saint John CMA's 2007 employment rate was 63.5 per cent, up from 60.4 per cent in 2000, compared to Canada's 2007 rate of 63.5 per cent and New Brunswick's 59.2 per cent.

Retail sales were also up 37 per cent to $1.5 billion in the Saint John CMA in 2007, compared to $1.1 billion in 2000.

"I was pleased to see there's positive news on all fronts on the work side," Gilman said. "I'm not surprised at the retail growth with what we've seen being built in east Saint John over the last couple of years. Those retail outlets wouldn't be going up as fast as they are if the retailers weren't encouraged."

Although incomes remain behind the national average, Gilman notes that they are up considerably from 2000 and higher than the average for New Brunswick.

The Saint John CMA's 2007 average and median hourly earnings were $18.31 and $15.90, up from $14.85 and $13 in 2000, compared to Canada's 2007 hourly earnings of $20.41 and $18.09 and New Brunswick's $16.93 and $14.98.

"We're trying to get more people into the workforce and out of poverty to earn a good wage," she said.

"I found that very encouraging to see.

"We've put so much time and effort into this with the Benefits Blueprint and so many good organizations like Vibrant Communities and BCAPI (the Business Community Anti-Poverty Initiative) that I think these numbers will continue to improve over the next few years."
Someone's comment from the web-site says it all:

"Wow.....a good news story printed in the Telegraph Journal. How did that one slip by?"
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SAINT JOHN, NB - Costco is one step closer to becoming an east side shopping reality.

The developers have made it known that they're ready to move ahead by requesting the necessary legal documents and building permits to get rolling.

Saint John Mayor Ivan Court says this is great news for retailers on the city's east side and expects consumers throughout Greater Saint John and beyond to flock to the giant bulk retailer.

Court says crews are working on levelling the ground as we speak and believes steel work for the building will begin in the summer

He says with a big anchor like Costco going up , the developers will have to include the re-alignment of Retail Drive and Ashburn Road in future talks.


I'm very interested by the sudden construction of multiple Costco sites in the Maritimes. Its not often you'll find one big-box retailer building three new locations around here at the same time (SJ, Freddie, and Dartmouth).

Its good news though. It at least shows that our retail sector is strong
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Great stats from the retail article, the momentum seems to be continuing.
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Someone's comment from the web-site says it all:

"Wow.....a good news story printed in the Telegraph Journal. How did that one slip by?"
I hate to say this but I think there is still too much of a welfare mentality in Saint John within a select portion of the population. I speak from experience because I used to be part of it. Too many people just don't want to work or they refuse to take work that pays less than $10/hour (for example). Sad but true.
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Where the hell did everyone go?
I've been here everyday, I just haven't been saying anything lol

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Market Square manager now aims to complete expansion by late fall

Business Hardman Group still has to work out details with development corporation
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SAINT JOHN - Final approval for the proposed 3,800-square-metre expansion to Market Square is taking longer than expected, says Colin Whitcomb, executive vice-president of the Hardman Group, the site's manager.

"The project is a little more complex due to the nature of Market Square and the involvement of the Saint John Development Corporation, not to say that they haven't been co-operative, but it takes longer because we not only have to work things through with the client, but also with them (the development corporation)," he said.

Whitcomb had expected to announce in early October the name of the single tenant interested in renting both floors of the proposed expansion, but there are still a few details to work out with the corporation, which holds the deed to the building, he said recently.

"There is a discussion with the tenant, which I would say is finalized, and then there's a discussion with the Saint John Development Corporation, which is not yet finalized but is proceeding, and we expect to bring that to some conclusion by mid to late January," he said.

Common council gave its stamp of approval to the project in September.

The name of the tenant interested in the whole space has not been released, but once the final details with the development corporation are worked out, the Hardman Group and the tenant will make a joint announcement, Whitcomb said.

When Market Square was constructed in the 1980s, the area at the back, bounded by Smythe, Union and St. Patrick streets, was prepared for a future expansion.

"The foundation is essentially in place as well as a lot of the mechanical and electrical systems, so it will be a fairly quick construction," he said in September.

The hope now is to begin work in the first quarter of 2009, which would be between now and April, and finish by late fall, he said.

Architectural drawings for the project show an open space on the St. Patrick Street side, which is labeled Winter Garden. The Hardman Group plans to landscape the area, but it will be a private space, said Heather Peterson, manager of Market Square.

According to the report from the city's planning department, the parking garage at Market Square already has enough space to accommodate the expansion. The formula used by the city calculates that 40 parking spaces are needed for 3,800 square metres of office space.

This development comes at a time when the city's uptown office space is almost full. Saint John has the lowest vacancy rates for both office and industrial space in New Brunswick.
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I am quite curious as to who the tenant will be taking up the entire expansion. Hopefully it is another solid announcement for the city.
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SAINT JOHN - The city is waiting for a revised building permit from Costco which, once approved, is the last step before construction begins on the big-box retailer's Saint John store.

"The fact that they've made application for a building permit is a pretty significant step," city planner Ken Forrest said Tuesday.

"Right now, the ball's in their court for revised drawings and we would finish processing the permit.

"I talked to their guys (Tuesday) morning and I think they're just waiting for further information. They want to get this done as soon possible."

City manager Terry Totten wrote to common council on Monday night that East Point Shopping and Costco have entered into a financial agreement, paving the way for the warehouse club to set up on the east side. Totten did not provide other details.

Forrest said he was not able to speculate on when the permit might be granted or when construction could begin.

The retailer, the world's largest members-only shopping company, is considered a prized anchor tenant in any major retail development and the Saint John store has been a long time coming. East Point developer Troy Northrup has been wooing Costco for years.

The Port City location will join Halifax, Moncton and St. John's, N.L., as Costco stores east of Montreal.

In an interview last year, Northrup said the Costco location will provide 14,1200 square metres of space. To give the project some context, the store will be more than one and a half times bigger than the Home Depot at East Point.

It will be built along Retail Drive in the vicinity of Home Depot, where the road takes a 90-degree turn, Forrest said. Coming from Rothesay Avenue, it would be nestled in on the right on a 90-degree elbow in the road.

The city's business community is excited about the prospect of getting the big-box store.

Saint John Board of Trade chairman Michael Barry says Costco will be great for the city, given that retail is a bigger part of the community's economy than was once believed.

"East Point really raises the level of retail availability," he said. "A rising tide lifts all boats.

"It will be fabulous for the city and I'm glad everything's on track.

"It's just another piece of our economy that's that much stronger and more diverse."

From a retail perspective, Saint John has the highest square footage for retail in the province, said Bob Manning, chairman of Enterprise Saint John.

Costco is foundational tenant that allows others to mass around it, Manning said.

"You're going to see very quickly that everywhere they have gone, they attract other retailers around them," he said.

Now, he said, the East Point team will be able to go after even more upscale retailers, such as Tommy Hilfiger and the Gap.

Peter Asimakos, general manager of Uptown Saint John, says Costco will round out the city's shopping experience.

"It's going to keep more people in town who are going to other destinations for those types of goods, which will help the local retail market," he said.

Surveys indicate Costco is a big draw to other areas of the city, too, Asimakos said.

"It will keep more of our shoppers here and will attract other shoppers from other locations to come to shop. We have great uptown shopping and entertainment and that complements anybody's long weekend shopping experience," he said.

Last year, East Point Inc. asked the city to extend its contribution to the construction of Retail Drive from $3.5 million to more than $5 million, with East Point paying back $650,000 if the developer achieves a specified level of development.

At Monday night's meeting, common council agreed to guarantee Costco that, if East Point didn't meet these financial obligations, the developer would not be left on the hook.

"Costco wanted some protection that they wouldn't get caught up in the web," Forrest said.

The East Point development kicked off with the Home Depot location a few years ago and later added fashion outlets for retailers such as Moore's men's clothing stores, Randy River, Le Chateau, Cotton Ginny and the first Urban Planet store in Atlantic Canada.

Since then, a 118-room Hampton Inn and Suites hotel opened, as has a Montana's Cookhouse restaurant, followed by a Starbucks location and the first Indigo in New Brunswick.

Costco is the fourth-biggest general retailer in the United States, after Wal-Mart, Home Depot, and Kroger.
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In an interview last year, Northrup said the Costco location will provide 14,1200 square metres of space. To give the project some context, the store will be more than one and a half times bigger than the Home Depot at East Point.

From a retail perspective, Saint John has the highest square footage for retail in the province, said Bob Manning, chairman of Enterprise Saint John.


This comment surprised but I am glad to see. I imagine this will only increase with Costco and others coming.
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In an interview last year, Northrup said the Costco location will provide 14,1200 square metres of space. To give the project some context, the store will be more than one and a half times bigger than the Home Depot at East Point.

From a retail perspective, Saint John has the highest square footage for retail in the province, said Bob Manning, chairman of Enterprise Saint John.


This comment surprised but I am glad to see. I imagine this will only increase with Costco and others coming.
It makes sense if by 'city' he means city proper, and not CMA. It wouldnt' surprise me at all if Saint John city has more retail than the city of Moncton. However, by CMA, I'd be pretty surprised to see that hold true.
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The Queen Mary 2, one of the most impressive cruise ships in the world, is being refused entry to the Port of Saint John next October because the wharf is booked to capacity.

The 345-metre ship wanted to pull into the harbour on Oct. 6 but the only wharf that could accommodate the world's largest passenger liner is taken that day.

Stephen Campbell, chairman of the Saint John Port Authority, said the infrastructure at the New Brunswick port hasn't kept pace with its success. Two years ago the port welcomed 90,000 passengers and Campbell said that number jumped to 184,000 in 2008.

"We're predicting by 2015, we could have upwards — and these are conservative predictions — upwards of 275,000 passengers," he said. "So it's a question of growth and it's also a question of ship size. Ships are getting bigger."

At 345 metres, the Queen Mary 2 is five times the length of Cunard's first ship, Britannia. It also carries more than 2,500 passengers.

The Cunard Line ship, which cost $1 billion and was launched in 2004, boasts 15 restaurants and bars, five swimming pools, a casino, a ballroom, a theatre and a planetarium.

Campbell said the problem highlights the need for a wharf expansion in Saint John. The port has been lobbying Ottawa for about $40 million to upgrade local facilities.

It's great to have a busy facility, Campbell said, but turning away business is not so good for its reputation, especially with a cruise ship company like Cunard.

"You can't, as a port or as a destination point, pick and choose a cruise line's itinerary and tell them what's acceptable and what isn't," he said.

"You're either in the game or you're not in the game. As a cruise line they have to look at our site and say, 'Is this something that's going to become more and more of an issue for us? And are there alternative locations that can accommodate us when we want to arrive?'"

The Queen Mary 2 came to Saint John last October, where the ship's passengers were feted with a fireworks display. The massive cruise ship previously visited Saint John in 2006.
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It makes sense if by 'city' he means city proper, and not CMA. It wouldnt' surprise me at all if Saint John city has more retail than the city of Moncton. However, by CMA, I'd be pretty surprised to see that hold true.
Well its been documented before that East Saint John has the highest concentration of retail. Therefore having more retail doesnt surprise me if CMA would either.
Get over it Myles.

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