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Old Posted Jun 11, 2012, 5:19 AM
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The PUC looks very sleek indeed.
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2012, 3:37 PM
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Yeah the PUC building looks pretty good.

And it looks like the NIMBY battle against 8 Washington is NOT over yet, despite the building being approved already :

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By: Joshua Sabatini | 06/10/12 5:50 PM
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The battle over a luxury 134-condo development at 8 Washington appears to be headed to the November ballot.

The Board of Supervisors on Tuesday is expected to approve the Simon Snellgrove of Pacific Waterfront Partners development despite opposition from more left-leaning political factions and members of the Golden Gateway Tennis and Swim Club, which would be displaced. Approval, however, won’t stop opponents from fighting.

“We’re not done,” said longtime land-use attorney Sue Hestor, who is fighting the project on behalf of Friends of Golden Gateway. “Simon Snellgrove is going to have to put some more of his money up.”

On June 21, the group is hosting an 8 Washington referendum fundraiser for the November ballot, when it will ask voters to reject height increases along The Embarcadero. The 130-foot-tall development would exceed the existing 84-foot height limit.

Supporters of 8 Washington questioned the aims of the ballot effort.

“So now we are going to go to the ballot to protect a private tennis club? That would seem to be a perversion of our system,” said development spokesman PJ Johnston, adding that the proposal “has been dragged out for seven years” and has passed “fair and square” with the approving bodies.

“This is a case of NIMBYs protecting their private tennis club,” he said.

An appeal last month of the development’s environmental impact report was rejected by supervisors, with David Campos, John Avalos and board President David Chiu the only ones to support it. The development is in Chiu’s district.

Last week, Supervisor Jane Kim obtained more concessions from the developer, including low-income youth access to the pool, a decrease in parking spaces from 250 to 200 and a 50-cent surcharge on parking for area transit improvements. The deal also calls for a $11 million contribution to The City’s affordable-housing trust fund,
$2 million more than required.

Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/2012/06/voters-might-settle-fight-over-condos#ixzz1xV25vC3h
Go rebuild your precious tennis club somewhere more appropriate than downtown/the embarcadero, and let the city progress as it should, you dumb, selfish, NIMBYs. 130 feet isn't even that tall, and wouldn't even block anyone's views of the Bay or downtown, as it's bordered to the south and west by far taller buildings (and to the east by nothing but water, of course), and there's no nearby parks it can shadow, so it's obvious that the height isn't the real issue that the NIMBYs have, but rather just an excuse to oppose the building that they can latch onto, seeing as the current height limit for the area is 84 feet. All they seem to really want is to keep their tennis club, and to ensure there's no additional traffic to inconvenience them (as if 134 new units is going to make any difference in an area with tens of thousands of residents already...and even if it would, so what? This is a big city, you stupid NIMBYs ).

Nothing like NIMBY BS to get me ranting in the morning, lol.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2012, 5:51 PM
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i was afraid it would happen - they're energized by the coit tower measure's victory. seriously, in a fantasy we could run a ballot initiative that would outlaw this sort of harassment.

that said, good for jane kim in extracting even more for the city. that's something.
     
     
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Yeah the PUC building looks pretty good.

And it looks like the NIMBY battle against 8 Washington is NOT over yet, despite the building being approved already :



Go rebuild your precious tennis club somewhere more appropriate than downtown/the embarcadero, and let the city progress as it should, you dumb, selfish, NIMBYs. 130 feet isn't even that tall, and wouldn't even block anyone's views of the Bay or downtown, as it's bordered to the south and west by far taller buildings (and to the east by nothing but water, of course), and there's no nearby parks it can shadow, so it's obvious that the height isn't the real issue that the NIMBYs have, but rather just an excuse to oppose the building that they can latch onto, seeing as the current height limit for the area is 84 feet. All they seem to really want is to keep their tennis club, and to ensure there's no additional traffic to inconvenience them (as if 134 new units is going to make any difference in an area with tens of thousands of residents already...and even if it would, so what? This is a big city, you stupid NIMBYs ).

Nothing like NIMBY BS to get me ranting in the morning, lol.
My response to this includes a lot of inappropriate words like fucking, assholes, and shitheads, so I will withstand.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2012, 5:38 PM
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One good thing that could come out of a ballot initiative to reduce height limits on Embarcadero is that it could be a referendum on the city's attitude towards height. It will be a barometer of change- are we still the same anti- growth city of the 1980s, or are we a more modern, sophisticated, 21st century city optimistic about growing our economy and skyline.

I have faith that the latter will prevail. People just do not seem to be so afraid of height anymore, and a lot of those who are don't even live inside city limits anyway.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2012, 8:21 PM
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well, a ballot initiative along those lines would be a way of waking up some developers to the threat of further legislated nimbyism, so it could be that they napalm the initiative and we all live happily ever after.

but i'm not so sure. think about all the people in the neighborhoods who'll see a vote on embarcadero height limits as a referendum on infill in their own areas. i could see an entire campaign along the lines of "keep san francisco san francisco" changing the course of history all so that these clowns can keep their street parking and tennis courts. the developer should make it clear to everyone, george lucas-style, that if 8 washington goes down, he's going to raze the lot to gravel and invite the city's homeless to make a tent city there.

anyway, if i were this dude with 8 wash, i'd get started as soon as possible and then hope that there's no retroactive clause to the legislation.
     
     
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524 Howard was sold to an affiliate of Crescent Heights. They seem to be pretty bullish on SF lately.

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SOLD: 524 Howard St., San Francisco

JUNE 13, 2012 by PUBLISHER in NEWS RELEASES

Howard/First Property LLC, an affiliate of Crescent Heights Group of Properties based in Miami, acquired the high-rise residential development site at 524 Howard Street. Located directly adjacent to the future Transbay Transit Center, 524 Howard Street is a rare urban infill residential development site within San Francisco’s business core.
http://news.theregistrysf.com/sold-524-howard-st-san-francisco/

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Old Posted Jun 14, 2012, 5:34 AM
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524 Howard was sold to an affiliate of Crescent Heights. They seem to be pretty bullish on SF lately.


http://news.theregistrysf.com/sold-524-howard-st-san-francisco/
Nice! Looks like that site is zoned for 450'.
     
     
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that's fantastic news! and if they go rental again (seems awfully likely, given the market), imagine what they could pull in for these suites, that'd be like a $700-800 million addition to their portfolio for likely something close to a $400 million investment. i just wish that other majors would recognize the value in sf right now and get moving on some of these sites.
     
     
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John King's review of the new PUC building:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/06/17/BA4S1P2A9P.DTL

Nothing we weren't aware of, but here's a Chronicle article about all of the new developments in upper Market:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/06/17/BUD41P2NI8.DTL
     
     
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Thanks for the articles. The upper market piece didn't even mention 1600 market, which i seem to recall is supposedly getting started soon (though no signs of it yet).

Relatedly, does anyone know what the story is with the building on the corner of market and gough, where Cafe Trieste was. It just closed and their website said it was due to change in building ownership. It also appears that the church that operated out of that building is no longer there.
     
     
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Caffe Trieste is in North Beach.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2012, 9:19 PM
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Caffe Trieste is in North Beach.
There was one on Market as well.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/caffe-trieste-san-francisco-4

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I am all for most of these Upper Market projects, very exciting stuff in a good area to live, but I hope they don't allow a Starbucks to open on Sanchez. Sorry to be all NIMBY but I think we can do better.
     
     
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looking down (north-northwest along) Fremont from Harrison, there was equipment (inactive on Saturday) which seemed to have been doing a little prepping recently...



... and the two buildings that remained after all the others were cleared a couple of years ago had (new) demolition permit notices on them, so they may not be long for this world (the ones in the shadow of doom on the right). edit: maybe making room for 333 Fremont:


two shots from similar vantage points show that the buildings have since met their fate:





and there is some pretty insistent excavation going on:

     
     
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Love the photo updates. Thanks timbad & wakamesalad!
     
     
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SFMOMA tower to break ground June 2013.

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One Rincon Hill Tower 2, Crescent Heights, Trinity Place, SFMOMA, 375 Fremont, 181 Fremont, 45 Lansing, and, of course, Transbay Tower, all will be (as planned) under construction next summer. Gotta look good for America's Cup
     
     
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no photo, but the site next to the center (on market right at octavia) is back in action, with multiple excavation machines of various types and a crane all active. at this pace, we should probably anticipate that one reaching grade ~october.

ugly as texas, but a lot of units over a beautifully unbroken retail wall on market street (i think the center's meeting space in on the second floor), so i won't complain. once everything in the pipes is built out, we're just a dozen or so key pieces away from a commercial wall from castro station all the way to the ferry building.
     
     
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One Rincon Hill Tower 2, Crescent Heights, Trinity Place, SFMOMA, 375 Fremont, 181 Fremont, 45 Lansing, and, of course, Transbay Tower, all will be (as planned) under construction next summer. Gotta look good for America's Cup
Don't forget 350 Mission (which should at least be at the excavation stage by then) and 222 Second. I haven't heard anything, but with office demand as it is I keep expecting (hoping!) to hear 535 Mission come back to life one of these days.
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