Stadiums & Arenas of Canada, Part 3

[thurmas]

Sorry I am confused are they proposing a brand new BMO field for TFC and the Argos here? Or some sort of video game stadium?

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by thurmas

Sorry I am confused are they proposing a brand new BMO field for TFC and the Argos here? Or some sort of video game stadium?

Video Games Stadium. But I'm sure it could be used for many events, like conventions, and performances.

[J.OT13]

That looks awesome!

[esquire]

Nice looking venue proposed for Toronto.

[thenoflyzone]

^ I know this.

Hence why I said "hopefully at the next elections."

Investing taxpayer money in sports franchises or stadiums is never worth while for the taxpayer. We have seen this countless times.

One of the latest studies to this effect has just been published. Conducted by economist and researcher J.C. Bradbury, the study examines the economic impact of Truist Park, the new stadium the Atlanta Braves moved to in 2017. This new stadium is located in Cobb County, far from the city center. Originally, project promoters argued that visitors from Atlanta would inject huge sums of money into the local economy. Figures compiled since the stadium opened show that sales tax revenue has indeed increased in Cobb County. However, the increase was likely due to the overall health of the economy as neighboring counties recorded, on average, higher revenue increases than Cobb County.

In 2015, Temple University economics professor Michael Leeds argued that if all of Chicago's professional teams (the Bears, Bulls, White Sox, Cubs and Blackhawks) suddenly disappeared at the same time, the impact of their departure on the city's economy would amount to a fraction of 1%.

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

^ I know this.

Hence why I said "hopefully at the next elections."

Investing taxpayer money in sports franchises or stadiums is never worth while for the taxpayer. We have seen this countless times.

In 2015, Temple University economics professor Michael Leeds argued that if all of Chicago's professional teams (the Bears, Bulls, White Sox, Cubs and Blackhawks) suddenly disappeared at the same time, the impact of their departure on the city's economy would amount to a fraction of 1%.

One of the latest studies to this effect has just been published. Conducted by economist and researcher J.C. Bradbury, the study examines the economic impact of Truist Park, the new stadium the Atlanta Braves moved to in 2017. This new stadium is located in Cobb County, far from the city center. Originally, project promoters argued that visitors from Atlanta would inject huge sums of money into the local economy.

However, figures compiled since the stadium opened show that sales tax revenue has indeed increased in Cobb County. However, the increase was likely due to the overall health of the economy as neighboring counties recorded, on average, higher revenue increases than Cobb County.

I agree with you. While I do not support massive expenditures, people need a little fun! And other cultural infrastructures get money in various forms... sports should benefit as well.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

I agree with you. While I do not support massive expenditures, people need a little fun! And other cultural infrastructures get money in various forms... sports should benefit as well.

Invest that money in healthcare. Give our nurses a proper raise ! Don't build a fucking baseball stadium with my money !

[JHikka]

Behold: Centre Slush Puppie

Originally Posted by Harley613

This one turned out very nicely.
[IMG]Photo_6553653_DJI_53_jpg_4376047_0_2021319125318_photo_original by harley613, on Flickr[/IMG]

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by JHikka

Behold: Centre Slush Puppie

Those towers off in the distance are actually in east end Ottawa.

The two right in the middle (one slightly shorter than the other) are at the corner of Montreal Rd. and St. Laurent Blvd.

Not very far as the crow flies but you have to go through downtown Hull and downtown Ottawa to drive there at the moment.

The closest expanse of white to the left of the big boxes is where a road leading to a new interprovincial bridge will be, if the bridge is ever built.

You can also make out the pointy west end of tree-covered Kettle Island, which is used as the unofficial name of the proposed bridge.

[esquire]

Cool pic. I think that's the first time I've seen it in context as opposed to just a shot of the building itself. I think the design is pretty nice by junior standards (it probably has more glazing than all but a small handful of them), but at the same time the setting makes it look a bit like a big box store.

All in all though, it looks like it should be a nice place to catch a game. I'd definitely make the trip next time I'm in the NCR during hockey season.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by esquire

Cool pic. I think that's the first time I've seen it in context as opposed to just a shot of the building itself. I think the design is pretty nice by junior standards (it probably has more glazing than all but a small handful of them), but at the same time the setting makes it look a bit like a big box store.

All in all though, it looks like it should be a nice place to catch a game. I'd definitely make the trip next time I'm in the NCR during hockey season.

Here's a Google 3D for more context. A major bus transit centre, some density, a movie theatre, performance theatre, a few cafes and restaurants, a Cegep and sports complex, along with Library and Archives preservation centres.

The new arena complex (below the white mid-rise office building surrounded by fields and parking), or preservation centre II (which will be a literal cube above the existing airport hanger style preservation centre), as not on the outdated Google image.

The whole area is poised to become a dense suburban town centre.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.47442.../data=!3m1!1e3

And for fun, here's the current Bob Guertin, which will should be demolished soon after the Gatineau Olympiques move to the Slush.

At the north-western end of the Island of Hull, it's near the traditional downtown but flanked by a highway and major arterial road.

RobG by harley613, on Flickr

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

And for fun, here's the current Bob Guertin, which will should be demolished soon after the Gatineau Olympiques move to the Slush.

The Slush eh.........

If this is the nickname for the new arena, I hope this is not an allusion to the quality of the ice surface during the warming weather at playoff time!!

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by esquire

Cool pic. I think that's the first time I've seen it in context as opposed to just a shot of the building itself. I think the design is pretty nice by junior standards (it probably has more glazing than all but a small handful of them), but at the same time the setting makes it look a bit like a big box store.

All in all though, it looks like it should be a nice place to catch a game. I'd definitely make the trip next time I'm in the NCR during hockey season.

The immediate ground-level surroundings of the Centre Slush Puppie actually look like this:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.48382...7i16384!8i8192

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Acajack

The immediate ground-level surroundings of the Centre Slush Puppie actually look like this:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.48382...7i16384!8i8192

Nice design with some of the neighbouring buildings. It's clearly suburban, but not entirely without some urban character.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by esquire

Nice design with some of the neighbouring buildings. It's clearly suburban, but not entirely without some urban character.

I walk and bike there fairly often. It's still got a lot of missing pieces but it's not at all an unpleasant place to be a non-motorist.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.48322...7i16384!8i8192

[kevinbottawa]

Originally Posted by esquire

Nice design with some of the neighbouring buildings. It's clearly suburban, but not entirely without some urban character.

I used to live around there before the arena was built and spent a lot of time walking around there and going to the library. There are residential buildings in the area that have a bit of a European look with retail on ground level, including a Mocca Loca coffee shop. Having spent 30 years in Toronto, it felt like I was in a different country.

[JHikka]

https://www.timescolonist.com/montre...ity-1.24302223

Montreal Alouttes embrace possibility of NFL games being played in CFL team's city

MONTREAL — The Montreal Alouettes are embracing the possibility of NFL games being played in their city, while the operators of Regina's Mosaic Stadium are leaving the door open to the scenario as well.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Tuesday the league has set its sights on playing in Canada as part of it expanding its regular season from 16 to 17 games. Starting in 2022, every franchise will play a game internationally at least once every eight years.

On Wednesday, operators of Montreal's Olympic Stadium and Vancouver's BC Place said in statements that they'd be interested in exploring opportunities to host NFL games.

The idea of an NFL game being played at Olympic Stadium is fine with the Alouettes, who play their home contests at Molson Stadium.

On Thursday, Regina Exhibition Association Limited, which runs Mosaic Stadium, released a statement saying it too could be interested in an NFL game.

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The NFL says it will focus initially on playing games in Canada, the United Kingdom, Mexico, Europe and South America.

[ericmacm]

From the Regina forum section, highly preliminary render of a planned arena to replace the 6,484-seat Brandt Centre, located close to Mosaic Stadium. Past news articles indicate that Pats' ownership wants to pursue a larger arena so it can attract more major events that the current arena cannot accommodate, as well as delivering an "NHL experience".



Source video, timestamp @ 26:48.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by ericmacm

From the Regina forum section, highly preliminary render of a planned arena to replace the 6,484-seat Brandt Centre, located close to Mosaic Stadium. Past news articles indicate that Pats' ownership wants to pursue a larger arena so it can attract more major events that the current arena cannot accommodate, as well as delivering an "NHL experience".



Source video, timestamp @ 26:48.

This is exciting news. The Brandt Centre is a nice arena so I can appreciate why some might not want to get rid of it, but on the other hand one could say that Regina has outgrown it to some extent. It is a 1970s vintage building that is not downtown and not quite big enough to host the top tier events that go to SaskTel Centre as things stand.

A new venue in Regina would be a pretty good boost in terms of attracting events and also for the downtown area. It could fill up one of the empty spaces around downtown and pull people and businesses into that district. It could be quite an amenity.

I'd be curious to know how big of a size the developers would be looking at... I would imagine somewhere in the range of 10-12 thousand would be pretty good.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by ericmacm

From the Regina forum section, highly preliminary render of a planned arena to replace the 6,484-seat Brandt Centre, located close to Mosaic Stadium. Past news articles indicate that Pats' ownership wants to pursue a larger arena so it can attract more major events that the current arena cannot accommodate, as well as delivering an "NHL experience".



Source video, timestamp @ 26:48.

There was a bit of discussion about this arena on the Rod Pedersen Show today (it's out of Regina for those who aren't familiar). Pedersen didn't come right out and say it, but he implied that one of the project proponents told him that they're aiming pretty high here. Apparently the minimum capacity for a NLL team is in the 14,000ish range and they'd be looking to meet that standard.

Take it with a grain of salt if you want, but Regina is looking at a pretty big upgrade from the Brandt Centre.