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Originally Posted by Biff
All nice, but it will cost you $20,000+ to have a baby or $1,000 to cast a broken bone....if you are uninsured that is.
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So get insured? Not that their system is great, but 2% income tax certainly is.
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Originally Posted by rrskylar
And what you save on personal income taxes would more than cover personal health coverage with plenty left over to spend on other things, ie. actually deciding where to spend your own money rather than the govt.
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Originally Posted by Wigglez
Every man woman and child for themselves!!! Screw programs to help people who aren't me! I have another Audi to buy!
This kind of logic in Canada has always amazed me. Just move to the states? You're (in theory) white, they will welcome you with open arms!
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Stop that bullshit.
The logic you just displayed, that any affront to our infallible (and horrible) health care system amazes me that so many Canadians hold it.
I'm not saying that the US have a great system, but neither do we. That Americans and Canadians alike always resort to this health care dick-measuring contest is so unbelievably shortsighted, because it does nothing to address the horrible care and high cost we pay here... regardless of what's done in the states.
And what kind of classist nonsense is that? His "Audi"? it's primitive to constantly pit peoples' successes against each other to avoid discussions.
The white comment? Take that lazy bullshit elsewhere.
Imagine your child has seizures and you have no idea why. You go to emergency. Despite the panic in your face and the uncertainty of what's caused a child to go completely crazy out of nowhere, friends of mine had to wait 12 hrs, watching their daughter have seizures, until they got addressed. The sysrtem had their reasons for handling it that way.
2 things to that:
1) You get what you pay for when "free" matters more than "care". Except it actually costs a lot. It should be way better
2) If that's your child, you'd pay in a heartbeat. You wouldn't be singing the tune of equal treatment and "free" (again, not free) health care when in that spot. The US system is NO solution, as they have a major pharma/insurance epidemic.
But Canada's collective "better than the US" and "free" knee-jerking is lacking any critical thought.
Every man and woman for themselves? Well, are you telling others to pay more, and disguising it as compassion? Because that doesn't sound like compassion. It's a nice crutch that a lot of leftists lean on.
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Originally Posted by Wigglez
So, how much do we actually pay for our public health-care system? Using the most recent tax and health-care expenditure data, we estimate that the average unattached individual will pay about $4,257 this year, while an average family of four will pay $11,494. Of course, the payments vary according to income.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/arti...or-health-care
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $321 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $833 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,358 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,983
https://resources.ehealthinsurance.c...ithout-subsidy
Math! Take all your savings from private insurance and run rrskylar!!!!
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The original praise was for a 2% income tax. Those savings alone would wipe out the "high cost of healthcare" in the states.
Also, the same problem surfaces again... you point out the US, but all I see is we're top 3. Not a good place.
So why do so many go south for help? Because they're mean rich people? Or because they're not willing to put up with the bullshit up here? Think about it... I'm not defending the US, but Canadians are willing to go to the "worst" (because it's most expensive and that's what matters) system in the advanced world over our very own iconically Canadian system...
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Originally Posted by trueviking
Yes. Driving is the number one priority for everything in our city. Even the diametrically opposed values of fewer potholes and building more roads to maintain seems to evade the most rational of winnipegger.
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In fairness to ND, every intersection along that major highway is an overpass