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Old Posted Mar 28, 2016, 3:47 AM
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Time to start calling it a spire.
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Winnipeg got hit with another proposal, and this view seems to be worth posting. 360 main is supposed to be reclad with glass, and a 40 story tower is supposed to go up beside it.

this one view would look completely different with skycity, parcel 4 highrises, this new tower and a reclad of 360 main.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2016, 5:07 AM
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Great news for Winnipeg! I hope it all gets built.
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Hope it gets built after a bit of redesigning.
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Winnipeg has the bones, history/culture and demographics to be a great representative and soulful hub city for Canada should it ever go through a growth spurt like what Alberta cities went through the past 20 odd years. If in a distant future Canada shifted its official capital outside Ontario, Winnipeg would be the only city that would make sense from a nation building perspective.
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Re: 360 main is supposed to be re-clad with glass, and a 40 story tower is supposed to go up beside it



It would be great to see some height in the peg. Hope it gets done.
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Winnipeg has the bones, history/culture and demographics to be a great representative and soulful hub city for Canada should it ever go through a growth spurt like what Alberta cities went through the past 20 odd years. If in a distant future Canada shifted its official capital outside Ontario, Winnipeg would be the only city that would make sense from a nation building perspective.
Actually, not really. It would be great place to function as a capital city except that were the country ever invaded and Winnipeg captured the nation would be completely cut in half. While times are good right now, the future is a little murkier and we have to factor stuff like this in.
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Actually, not really. It would be great place to function as a capital city except that were the country ever invaded and Winnipeg captured the nation would be completely cut in half. While times are good right now, the future is a little murkier and we have to factor stuff like this in.
We can still maintain much of our administrative structure where it's needed most. Maintain Ottawa-Gatineau as an administrative capital, no need to move too many jobs around, but the symbolism of having Winnipeg as an official capital with primarily legislative functions is what I'm speaking of. For practical purposes, the Central corridor is where the bulk of our governance responsibilities are so the big organizations will be based there. If our legislative branched is executed or captured during war our bureaucracy (primarily military bureaucracy) is the most important wing anyway. Realistically much of that will be in the Algonquin Highlands of Ontario, the forests and military bases near Quebec City and the Northern Prairies.
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We can still maintain much of our administrative structure where it's needed most. Maintain Ottawa-Gatineau as an administrative capital, no need to move too many jobs around, but the symbolism of having Winnipeg as an official capital with primarily legislative functions is what I'm speaking of. For practical purposes, the Central corridor is where the bulk of our governance responsibilities are so the big organizations will be based there. If our legislative branched is executed or captured during war our bureaucracy (primarily military bureaucracy) is the most important wing anyway. Realistically much of that will be in the Algonquin Highlands of Ontario, the forests and military bases near Quebec City and the Northern Prairies.
Why would we move the legislative functions but not he bureaucrats? That would just complicate the whole thing.

Seems to me Ottawa was, is and always will be the best choice as the capital.

If we're talking symbolism, the city is situated right on the border of French and English Canada. It has also been a symbolic place for the aboriginals (granted, Winnipeg is also something of a melting pot for French, English and Indigenous, but arguably not as much as the Ottawa region).

Talking economics, demographics and history, we are a short distance from half the population of the country with the financial capital (Toronto), the historic heart (Québec City) and former cultural and economic capital (Montréal). It is also arguably easier to defend with more military bases nearby.

The biggest blow to Winnipeg, I think, is that it is too isolated to take on the roles and responsibilities of a capital city.
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Actually, not really. It would be great place to function as a capital city except that were the country ever invaded and Winnipeg captured the nation would be completely cut in half. While times are good right now, the future is a little murkier and we have to factor stuff like this in.
If the country were ever invaded with Ottawa as our capital it would probably fall about as quickly and cut the nation in half just as efficiently. The US has us outnumber roughly 10 to 1, so for the forceable future wherever we put our capital will fall pretty quickly. Maybe Churchill would hold out a while?
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If all of this pans out with the Winnipeg skyline, it really reminds me of the transformation of Austin, Texas. That city went from zero to hero with just only 3-4 major residential buildings.
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I like the idea of Winnipeg as the capital city: the centre of the country, serving to unite east and west, but I'm not convinced it would actually do that. In a country this large and sparsely populated, with the majority of its populace essentially congregating along a 6,000 km line, there are always bound to be segments along that line that feel disenfranchised, ignored, thus fomenting secessionist sentiment.
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I like the idea of Winnipeg as the capital city: the centre of the country, serving to unite east and west, but I'm not convinced it would actually do that. In a country this large and sparsely populated, with the majority of its populace essentially congregating along a 6,000 km line, there are always bound to be segments along that line that feel disenfranchised, ignored, thus fomenting secessionist sentiment.
The country of East Canada
The country of West Canada
The Frech Republic of Quebec
There solved lol
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The country of East Canada
The country of West Canada
The Frech Republic of Quebec
There solved lol
La Fresh Republic du Québec!

Also you'll have to split off the Maritimes because they're cut off from Ontario. You'll probably then see Newfoundland wander off again because . . . Halifax ignored them?

Oh and BC (mostly Vancouver and the Island) will decide they don't want to be stuck with the conservatives in Alberta and try to run off (possibly stealing the Yukon).
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Wow, amazing work! It would be great if you were somehow able to upload the file so we could tour it in 3D in Google Earth.
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That's not possible I'm afraid. I created this model in Second Life. But, if you join up, for free, or are already a member, then let me know and I'll send you the file there, and you can then view it in 3D with full tilt, pan, rotate and zoom.

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Old Posted May 2, 2016, 3:27 AM
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Shockingly beautiful views, great effort koops!
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Thanks... I'm still plugging away at it. The main part of the downtown core is mostly finished, now I'm starting to concentrate on outlying high rise clusters like Yonge & Eglinton. I'm about 75% complete building the model now, and I still have lots of textures to upload. But I'm finally starting to see light at the end of the tunnel...

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A labour of love for the most part I hope koops - looks fantastic!
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