Winnipeg | Osborne Village & Fort Rouge

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

Norwood is great in my opinion. 15-20 minute walk to Forks or Tache and 25-35 minute walk to P&M. Plus great walking along Lyndale / Red River area or go west and walk Seine river area

I'd love to see a pedestrian bridge connect Norwood to Osborne. Lindale Drive would be 400 meters from the rapid transit station at Confusion Corner.

[drew]

If you work close to or in downtown, Wolseley is tough to beat.

Walking to work becomes a realistic option (I do).

If old houses or old areas are on your radar:
- Crescentwood is nice - but big old houses with big old problems.
- the soil south of the river is noticeably worse than north of the river (i.e. houses are more often crooked in River Heights and Crescentwood).
- Old St.B has noticeably worse quality of residential construction versus original City of Winnipeg areas.

[Biff]

^^^ see, there is Drew

[ColdRain&Snow]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I'd love to see a pedestrian bridge connect Norwood to Osborne. Lindale Drive would be 400 meters from the rapid transit station at Confusion Corner.

That's a really interesting idea, never noticed how great that location is for a pedestrian bridge. However, I feel like there would be a poor return-on-investment. The probability of denser housing getting built in Norwood Flats is slim-to-none, that area is full of NIMBY's. And the neighbourhood as it is right now is fairly wealthy and low density, so not a lot of people who take transit.

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I'd love to see a pedestrian bridge connect Norwood to Osborne. Lindale Drive would be 400 meters from the rapid transit station at Confusion Corner.

100% agree

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

That's a really interesting idea, never noticed how great that location is for a pedestrian bridge. However, I feel like there would be a poor return-on-investment. The probability of denser housing getting built in Norwood Flats is slim-to-none, that area is full of NIMBY's. And the neighbourhood as it is right now is fairly wealthy and low density, so not a lot of people who take transit.

what have we been Nimby about that bothers you? Only thing I can think of is closing Lyndale drive 100% to cars 24/7 instead of Sunday only. there alternatives like speed reducers and adding wider paths that would solve that

I agree it's low density and will continue to remain low density but I will disagree with you about Transit. Vast majority of people I live around work downtown and either walk, cycle or bus to work. many have university aged or high school aged children that would benefit from being 10 minute walk to rapid transit station to UofM.

[ColdRain&Snow]

Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

what have we been Nimby about that bothers you? Only thing I can think of is closing Lyndale drive 100% to cars 24/7 instead of Sunday only. there alternatives like speed reducers and adding wider paths that would solve that

I agree it's low density and will continue to remain low density but I will disagree with you about Transit. Vast majority of people I live around work downtown and either walk, cycle or bus to work. many have university aged or high school aged children that would benefit from being 10 minute walk to rapid transit station to UofM.

Sorry, I should be more careful with what I say. I don't have any specific examples of NIMBY's in Norwood Flats. Glenwood is nearby and full of NIMBY's but that's a separate neighbourhood. However, I will maintain that Norwood Flats is very low density considering how close it is to downtown and there has been very little infill ever since the neighbourhood was "completed" about 80 years ago. As far as I understand, the entire neighbourhood is zoned R1, with the exception of a few properties along St. Mary's Rd.

In terms of the number of people taking transit, the 2016 Census says 72% of people in Norwood Flats drive or get a ride to work, 10% take the bus, 10% walk, and 6% bike. 10% taking the bus isn't nothing, but I would say it's pretty low considering how close the neighbourhood is to downtown.

Stats are on Page 11 below:
https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/census/20...ood%20West.pdf

[zalf]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I'd love to see a pedestrian bridge connect Norwood to Osborne. Lindale Drive would be 400 meters from the rapid transit station at Confusion Corner.

That would be excellent. It would be a big win for connectivity, and if connected at Mulvey Ave East, it might even partially redeem the pants-on-head stupid decision to block the apartment+brewery proposal behind Mulvey Flea Market in favour of an unadorned patch of grass.

[Brule-le]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I'd love to see a pedestrian bridge connect Norwood to Osborne. Lindale Drive would be 400 meters from the rapid transit station at Confusion Corner.

What's up with the bridge (I assume pedestrian) from Riverview to Glenwood/St B included in Transit planning maps?

https://info.winnipegtransit.com/assets/2790/Long_Term_Network_Plan.pdf

[wags_in_the_peg]

these are the 2 most recent "infills" in Norwood Flats where a SFD was torn down for new SFD. both beautiful places facing the river.

2016
https://maps.app.goo.gl/sx7y69jnXPrJa2N18

2023
https://maps.app.goo.gl/z7Y4HKxVXGW7q39C8

[pegster]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I'd love to see a pedestrian bridge connect Norwood to Osborne. Lindale Drive would be 400 meters from the rapid transit station at Confusion Corner.

Is this really necessary though? The bus stop at Queen Elizabeth and Stradbrook, right across the Norwood Bridge (which has both wide sidewalks and a bike lane) is on the Blue Line and any future RT infrastructure will go through this area.

[trueviking]

^ I don't even think it has to be about rapid transit. It would create a more direct connection between Norwood and the heart of the Village strip. It would also create access to greenspace for Village residents.

[rivercity]

For me it would be allowing two neighbourhoods to access each others amenities. The desire line between Norwood and Riverview at the paddling center on Churchill Drive as soon as the river freezes is testament to interest and use i would think.

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by drew

If you work close to or in downtown, Wolseley is tough to beat.

Walking to work becomes a realistic option (I do).

If old houses or old areas are on your radar:
- Crescentwood is nice - but big old houses with big old problems.
- the soil south of the river is noticeably worse than north of the river (i.e. houses are more often crooked in River Heights and Crescentwood).
- Old St.B has noticeably worse quality of residential construction versus original City of Winnipeg areas.

Grew up in Norwood, but east of St Mary's. Super location. Easy walk to downtown. Would have bought the house if we weren't invested in the rural one we have. Brother advised against it as the basement was framed in railroad lumber. Solid house though.

Supposedly in some basements in River Heights you can hear water running in underground streams.

Old St Vital is nice, especially the Elm Park area, or closer to the Seine along Egerton Rd.

[TimeFadesAway]

Originally Posted by Kinguni

Supposedly in some basements in River Heights you can hear water running in underground streams.

I grew up in one of these houses. We couldn't really hear the water, but there was an underground stream that ran between our house and the neighbour which resulted in significant foundation problems for both.

I lived for 10 years in Wolseley and heartily endorse living there. Only moved out to live in a condo downtown as it was easier to manage with having a 2nd place near Kenora.

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by TimeFadesAway

I lived for 10 years in Wolseley and heartily endorse living there. Only moved out to live in a condo downtown as it was easier to manage with having a 2nd place near Kenora.

Came close to buying a house on Lipton near Wolseley 18 years ago or so. Ending up buying a place in Westdale. Talked out of it by my mom and brother. Still regret it. Didn't keep the house through my divorce anyways. Now I live rural, but miss the conveniences of the city.

[drew]

^ we bought on Lipton 19 years ago, and have since moved within Wolseley.

Being in Wolseley was/is a big source of conflict with the inlaws. They grew up in the Westend and Wolseley areas of Winnipeg during the 40s and 50s and are NOT fans, to put it mildly.

Interestingly enough, I grew up in Westdale...

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

At the Oct. 10, 2023 Standing Policy Committee on Public Works meeting, the committee directed Public Works to:
"Report back to the Standing Policy Committee on Public Works in 210 days on the
elimination of the slip lane at River Avenue and Osborne Street, and consider continuous
sidewalks and/or other positive interventions like scramble intersections, or wider
sidewalks on Osborne Street"

210 days from Oct. 10 would be mid-May. So still a few months away but hopefully there will be a recommendation soon.

public works will almost certainly come back with a nothingburger report where they defend the status quo or recommend some very minor change to signage. possibly after asking for an extension for another 100 days.

[ColdRain&Snow]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

public works will almost certainly come back with a nothingburger report where they defend the status quo or recommend some very minor change to signage. possibly after asking for an extension for another 100 days.

I hope not but you're probably right.

[ColdRain&Snow]

What about something like this for Osborne St? One lane in each direction + a parking lane + wider sidewalks. This screenshot is from Bridge St in Carleton Place, Ontario.



Much nicer than it is right now.