Austin | 305 S. Congress | 6 Towers - 215'/295'/365'/375'/445'/525' | Proposed

[drummer]

Thanks for the info JollyvilleJ-Rad!

And yes, Kevin, I agree. We do well to consider the gain over the loss...and in this particular case, it's not that difficult.

[JollyvilleJ-Rad]

Originally Posted by drummer

Thanks for the info JollyvilleJ-Rad!

And yes, Kevin, I agree. We do well to consider the gain over the loss...and in this particular case, it's not that difficult.

I share in the excitement as well - this could be a world-class game changer for the urban fabric of Austin that sets a precedent for the rest of the core and lakefront.

[The ATX]

A little movement. A ZC request was filed today to remove a restrictive covenant on the site.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...opertyrsn=6593

[JAM]

Originally Posted by JollyvilleJ-Rad

There is hypothetical massing and heights on the 21st page in this document for anyone interested:

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=368490

They include surrounding areas as well in the SCWP, but this doesn't appear to include the higher entitlements they are requesting (400' max). Whatever we end up with could be far taller and denser.

Wow, check out Rainey St on page 21. Can't believe how much its changed. It happened so fast.

[Altoic]

Planning for 19-acre lakeshore development in downtown Austin moves on into 2022
https://communityimpact.com/austin/c...-on-into-2022/

Initial plans for the transformation of the "Statesman PUD" site that could bring a new landmark development to the south shore of Lady Bird Lake are progressing and could be finalized in early 2022.

The 305 S. Congress Ave. planned unit development, or PUD, is home to the Austin American-Statesman building, a portion of the Ann and Roy Butler Hike and Bike Trail, and an unofficial viewing area for nightly bat flights from the Congress Avenue bridge. The redevelopment of the property appraised at more than $74 million has been in the works for years, and plans now center on bringing more than 3.6 million square feet of residential, hotel, office, retail and restaurant space to the lakeshore.

A Dec. 14 decision by the Austin Planning Commission pushed its formal vote on the PUD update to late January, when the body could approve the project outline and send it to City Council for consideration.

[Tyrone Shoes]

I was wishing for a Major League Baseball park in this location. Build it and they will come I guess..

[ILUVSAT]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoes

I was wishing for a Major League Baseball park in this location. Build it and they will come I guess..

It would have been THE perfect spot for it!

[migol24]

^^Traffic would have been straight from the pits of hell.

[gillynova]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoes

I was wishing for a Major League Baseball park in this location. Build it and they will come I guess..

Austin Athletics would be nice...

[papertowelroll]

Originally Posted by migol24

^^Traffic would have been straight from the pits of hell.

I lived at the apartment complext next to here for 2 years. I usually don't like making roads bigger but Riverside is one that might need it if this area develops. Having the blue line and the new pedestrian bridge will help a ton though.

As cool as an MLB stadium would be, it seems like--and I do think this has a good chance of happening in the next decade--that will be built up in the Domain area near Q2. I love this existing development plan as long as they keep the proposed park elements. That space is a fantastic piece of the lakefront and needs to be a mini-Auditorium Shores.

[Tyrone Shoes]

Originally Posted by papertowelroll

I lived at the apartment complext next to here for 2 years. I usually don't like making roads bigger but Riverside is one that might need it if this area develops. Having the blue line and the new pedestrian bridge will help a ton though.

As cool as an MLB stadium would be, it seems like--and I do think this has a good chance of happening in the next decade--that will be built up in the Domain area near Q2. I love this existing development plan as long as they keep the proposed park elements. That space is a fantastic piece of the lakefront and needs to be a mini-Auditorium Shores.

There or at COTA. Other thread shows it getting quite a little amusement park.

[papertowelroll]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoes

There or at COTA. Other thread shows it getting quite a little amusement park.

COTA would be a disaster for baseball IMO. There are 162 games per season. The only sport I could see working there would be the NFL.

[gillynova]

Originally Posted by papertowelroll

COTA would be a disaster for baseball IMO. There are 162 games per season. The only sport I could see working there would be the NFL.

Well, 81 for home games. There's enough parking around downtown and I'm sure people are okay with walking to the venue. If Austin City Limits can attract 75k people a day for 6 days of the year then having a 40k capacity stadium shouldn't be that big of a deal

But this is all a dream lmao

[StoOgE]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoes

There or at COTA. Other thread shows it getting quite a little amusement park.

Baseball needs to be near the population center. Too many games in the middle of the week.

I agree that our future professional sports teams all seem destined for the domain area.

[papertowelroll]

Originally Posted by gillynova

Well, 81 for home games. There's enough parking around downtown and I'm sure people are okay with walking to the venue. If Austin City Limits can attract 75k people a day for 6 days of the year then having a 40k capacity stadium shouldn't be that big of a deal

But this is all a dream lmao

Yes, 81 home games. I said that COTA would be a disaster, not a location near downtown. I agree that the statesmen site would be a cool stadium location, though congress, riverside, and barton springs road would certainly be quite congested on any gameday. As I mentioned, the new pedestrian bridge and the blue line would be critical to that working.

Anyway it probably doesn't happen just because this site will get developed by something more profitable first.. Hence why I think the domain area is more likely for a stadium.

[migol24]

I think a ballpark would be great off of Cesar Chavez. Like somewhere where Austin Pets Alive is right now. I think that would work.

[StoOgE]

I mean, its an MLB stadium - so about 20K folks for a game, big games or weekend games would push closer to 50K. Its easily something downtown can absorb as it absorbs much more than that on a typical non-covid workday.

Hell, its probably not far off how many people are downtown to party on the weekends and obviously a fraction of what UT football does.

I think the issue will be more that the land its on is super valuable *and* the Domain is the center of the population of the metro area. I also don't mind the Domain/North Burnet turning into an area with sporting events and mixed use development. Especially if we get a lot of walkable land around the stadium like we're going to get once Verde Square is up and going.

Anyway this is all off-topic. I am *extremely* excited for the South Shore development. It will hopefully bring good street use and pedestrian access that can work as an extension of SoCo and downtown and spur a lot of infill development between the heart of SoCo and make it more walkable to downtown especially with light-rail coming in.

[SproutingTowers]

I remember reading in a posting here the Ryans are working on bringing an MLB team here and scouting land near the Domain. Long term process though but getting the land now would a good thing.

[RyanfromTexas]

Originally Posted by StoOgE

I mean, its an MLB stadium - so about 20K folks for a game, big games or weekend games would push closer to 50K. Its easily something downtown can absorb as it absorbs much more than that on a typical non-covid workday.

Hell, its probably not far off how many people are downtown to party on the weekends and obviously a fraction of what UT football does.

I think the issue will be more that the land its on is super valuable *and* the Domain is the center of the population of the metro area. I also don't mind the Domain/North Burnet turning into an area with sporting events and mixed use development. Especially if we get a lot of walkable land around the stadium like we're going to get once Verde Square is up and going.

Anyway this is all off-topic. I am *extremely* excited for the South Shore development. It will hopefully bring good street use and pedestrian access that can work as an extension of SoCo and downtown and spur a lot of infill development between the heart of SoCo and make it more walkable to downtown especially with light-rail coming in.

Yes, this is totally off topic at this point but does anyone know if there’s redevelopment chatter around the Barton Creek Square mall site. That would be the absolute BEST site for a stadium: panoramic views of downtown from every seat.

[clubtokyo]

It funny I emailed Simon and told them they should start over with that mail and make it outdoors like the domain to take advantage of the views. They responded and said I should check out the updates they have done inside. Lol