LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0

[JerellO]

Originally Posted by Quixote

Great updates, guys!

I think Palmer's building looks horrendous. Better than his trademark faux-Tuscan abominations, but that's not saying much.

I think the bottom half of broadway palace could've been more ornamented... it looks so blank, as if it was ornamented in the past and a developer destroyed much of the facade to "modernize" it.. like the right side of the Los Angeles theatre. Still better than his original work.

[Valyrian Steel]

Originally Posted by JerellO

Do you guys think Olympic and house will ever be brought back from the dead?? A tall Art Deco or classical tower with a spire or ornamented dome top?? Good quality obviously.. and if not brought back, something similar or better proposed??

Don't count on it.

[cesar90]

For those of you who want to watch the whole video from Mount Wilson

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[SD_Phil]

Originally Posted by JerellO

Do you guys think Olympic and house will ever be brought back from the dead?? A tall Art Deco or classical tower with a spire or ornamented dome top?? Good quality obviously.. and if not brought back, something similar or better proposed??

I think this moment is over and it may not have been a serious proposal even in its own time. Also, aren't those parcels already developed or slated for development anyway?

I will admit that more faux-deco structures wouldn't be the worst idea though. Might be interesting to see some lower-rise buildings adopt that style with a more contemporary spin.

[Doctorboffin]

I feel bad for spamming this because I asked the other day, but I'll ask again. Does anyone know if SB Omega and the Hill Street Lofts are ever going to break ground?

[Muji]

Originally Posted by Quixote

I think Palmer's building looks horrendous. Better than his trademark faux-Tuscan abominations, but that's not saying much.

I don't find the upper floors to be particularly offensive but I'll agree that the ground floor looks awful. It might be hard to tell from the photos but in person the black-tinted windows, and thick band of concrete above them look incredibly cheap. I doubt that it'll look much better when (and if) the storefronts fill out.

[Valyrian Steel]

Palmer has never given a crap about the storefronts in his buildings.

[Quixote]

Originally Posted by Muji

I don't find the upper floors to be particularly offensive but I'll agree that the ground floor looks awful. It might be hard to tell from the photos but in person the black-tinted windows, and thick band of concrete above them look incredibly cheap. I doubt that it'll look much better when (and if) the storefronts fill out.

Yes. Those chimney-like stairwell/elevator shafts along with the goofy gargoyle bulldogs give away the building as faux-talian Renaissance. It looks nothing like the neighboring buildings that served as the inspiration.

At least he tried, right?

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by SD_Phil

I think this moment is over and it may not have been a serious proposal even in its own time. Also, aren't those parcels already developed or slated for development anyway?

I will admit that more faux-deco structures wouldn't be the worst idea though. Might be interesting to see some lower-rise buildings adopt that style with a more contemporary spin.

Love to see something like the Art Deco Richfield Oil Tower--or something similar (torn down in 1968 to make way for ARCO Plaza), 80 stories with a 250 foot spire, but completely 21st century inside.Would rule the skyline. That would be fantastic - L.A.'s Empire State Building

[caldor120la]

Still like the Palmer Broadway Palace project bulldogs, retail spaces and all. I think it's fine, still a lot of open spaces around maybe you'll get your perfect building some day until then I think this fits in well.

[Easy]

Originally Posted by JerellO

Do you guys think Olympic and house will ever be brought back from the dead??

No. There's already something built there.

[user2468]

Went to the LA Auto show yesterday and quickly snapped this shot of 1400 South Figueroa, between Avant Phases I and II.
1400 S. Figueroa Street - 11/28/2016 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

[LosAngelesBeauty]

OMG: Earl of Sandwich Coming to Bunker Hill in Downtown LA

http://brighamyen.com/2016/11/28/omg...l-downtown-la/

[caligrad]

^^^ While I'm excited about Earls...... Why Bunker Hill ???

The owners of the towers on Bunker Hill (Cal Plaza, Wells Fargo plaza, Bank America tower, etc.) could make Millions if they developed on their over sized plazas.

Bank of America tower could easily fit 2-3 towers (nothing super tall, just some residential mid rises) on its ridiculous plaza, Wells Fargo could fit about 2 on theirs. The way cal plaza is set up, it probably couldn't support another tower but for love of density, do something with the base, maybe connect the towers with some sort of a residential/ mixed use development and push it to the street instead of being a 3 minute walk from the street.

People think Bunker Hill is a lost cause and will forever be dead but in all honesty, most of its problems are an easy (but expensive) fix.

[scania]

Originally Posted by caligrad

^^^ While I'm excited about Earls...... Why Bunker Hill ???

The owners of the towers on Bunker Hill (Cal Plaza, Wells Fargo plaza, Bank America tower, etc.) could make Millions if they developed on their over sized plazas.

Bank of America tower could easily fit 2-3 towers (nothing super tall, just some residential mid rises) on its ridiculous plaza, Wells Fargo could fit about 2 on theirs. The way cal plaza is set up, it probably couldn't support another tower but for love of density, do something with the base, maybe connect the towers with some sort of a residential/ mixed use development and push it to the street instead of being a 3 minute walk from the street.

People think Bunker Hill is a lost cause and will forever be dead but in all honesty, most of its problems are an easy (but expensive) fix.

To me, that hill to get up there isn't pedestrian friendly. If you are talking about making the hill more ped-friendly with housing of some sort...I think that would be a start.

[JDRCRASH]

Originally Posted by caligrad

^^^ While I'm excited about Earls...... Why Bunker Hill ???

The owners of the towers on Bunker Hill (Cal Plaza, Wells Fargo plaza, Bank America tower, etc.) could make Millions if they developed on their over sized plazas.

Bank of America tower could easily fit 2-3 towers (nothing super tall, just some residential mid rises) on its ridiculous plaza, Wells Fargo could fit about 2 on theirs. The way cal plaza is set up, it probably couldn't support another tower but for love of density, do something with the base, maybe connect the towers with some sort of a residential/ mixed use development and push it to the street instead of being a 3 minute walk from the street.

People think Bunker Hill is a lost cause and will forever be dead but in all honesty, most of its problems are an easy (but expensive) fix.

I feel the same way, not just about the towers on Bunker Hill but with Union Bank and Bonaventure as well. They're all practically screaming to have their cancerous, appendage-like bases cut off.

But the one that frustrates me the most BY FAR is Citi Bank. Good god that tower could not have been placed any worse on its lot.

[bobbyv]

Wow, this project should be scrapped imo:
http://la.curbed.com/2016/11/29/1378...ding-measure-m

[Wally West]

Originally Posted by bobbyv

Wow, this project should be scrapped imo:
http://la.curbed.com/2016/11/29/1378...ding-measure-m

A one way route that doesn't even go to Grand Ave? This project should get scrapped before it embarrasses public transit and discourages people from supporting public transit public. This project will turn off people due to its price and limitations.

Not to mention, if this is going up Fig, how is it going to work with the new My Fig project? Seems like a potential clusterfuck.

[King Kill 'em]

Originally Posted by scania

To me, that hill to get up there isn't pedestrian friendly. If you are talking about making the hill more ped-friendly with housing of some sort...I think that would be a start.

They need to fix 4th street.

[black_crow]

Originally Posted by Wally West

A one way route that doesn't even go to Grand Ave? This project should get scrapped before it embarrasses public transit and discourages people from supporting public transit public. This project will turn off people due to its price and limitations.

Not to mention, if this is going up Fig, how is it going to work with the new My Fig project? Seems like a potential clusterfuck.

Seriously???

Why do you need a two way route for a few miles?
That project is very important for Downtown and it will break ground.

We were in contact with the people in charge and they were just waiting for Measure M.
One of the reasons I never see anything of Downtown is the missing streetcar.
I don't drive my car or drive the bus once I am in Downtown and I know many people that think the same way.

Give people options.

PS:

That one will ge build fast once they break ground.