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Old Posted Dec 5, 2024, 3:38 PM
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Is there any hope that the actual farmer's market aspect of the Byward Market could be revived? I think that at least part of what people think when they say the market isn't what it used to be, is related to that.
Would that really change anything or anyone's desire to visit the market who isn't doing so today? Farmer's markets have popped up all over the place now (Kanata, New Edinburgh, Elgin St, Navan, etc), so a lot more "local" markets for people to visit without having to drive downtown.
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Would that really change anything or anyone's desire to visit the market who isn't doing so today? Farmer's markets have popped up all over the place now (Kanata, New Edinburgh, Elgin St, Navan, etc), so a lot more "local" markets for people to visit without having to drive downtown.
I think that it would, as people go to the Market for the overall variety of experiences, and a farmer's market adds another layer to that experience. With a functioning market, you can go to the Gallery and stop by the Market, or sit on a patio and pick up some things on the way back. It's also part of the history of the Market that we should strive to keep.

Also, people love markets and I don't think we are saturated at this point. Ideally the Market should be the biggest and best market in the city, offer more than the neighbourhood markets, and draw people from a wider sphere. Don't forget that there is already a big variety of other types of vendors in the Market building, plus bakeries and other market-adjacent establishments. Build on that with a food market and it could very easily be a draw for the people across the inner urban area. I think it's a key part of the strategy.
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I think that it would, as people go to the Market for the overall variety of experiences, and a farmer's market adds another layer to that experience. With a functioning market, you can go to the Gallery and stop by the Market, or sit on a patio and pick up some things on the way back. It's also part of the history of the Market that we should strive to keep.

Also, people love markets and I don't think we are saturated at this point. Ideally the Market should be the biggest and best market in the city, offer more than the neighbourhood markets, and draw people from a wider sphere. Don't forget that there is already a big variety of other types of vendors in the Market building, plus bakeries and other market-adjacent establishments. Build on that with a food market and it could very easily be a draw for the people across the inner urban area. I think it's a key part of the strategy.
I don't go to any of the vendors in the market building anymore, the prices have become completely disconnected from reality, even in this economy. I used to love the taco place there, but it's now $10 for a single tiny taco, $14.50 for a little bowl of guac and chips. The chocolate place and the bakery are similarly outlandish with their pricing. I love the idea of improving the market to attract locals back, but the way it's moving forward is with tourist pricing, unfortunately.
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I think that it would, as people go to the Market for the overall variety of experiences, and a farmer's market adds another layer to that experience. With a functioning market, you can go to the Gallery and stop by the Market, or sit on a patio and pick up some things on the way back. It's also part of the history of the Market that we should strive to keep.

Also, people love markets and I don't think we are saturated at this point. Ideally the Market should be the biggest and best market in the city, offer more than the neighbourhood markets, and draw people from a wider sphere. Don't forget that there is already a big variety of other types of vendors in the Market building, plus bakeries and other market-adjacent establishments. Build on that with a food market and it could very easily be a draw for the people across the inner urban area. I think it's a key part of the strategy.
This was what I was thinking as well. It's quite common and a plus for a large city to have a "central market" that is a true market, with all sorts of other semi-connected stuff radiating around it.

The presence of other markets throughout the metro area and the environs doesn't preclude the existence of a central market at all.

I remember people coming into the Byward Market from outlying areas to buy their spring flower baskets. It was a "thing".

So was buying your Christmas tree there at one time.
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The last time I was at Jean-Talon in Montreal there were lots of people on the métro taking those small boxes of flowers and produce plants home from the market.
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I thought I saw Harls post something about this somewhere, but Costco will add a gas bar to its location at Les Promenades de l'Outaouais.

I assume the bus loop will be converted back to parking to replace what will be lost of the gas bar.



This is going to be a mess.

This has been voted down.

https://www.fm1047.ca/nouvelles/6658...des-promenades
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This has been voted down.
That's too bad. I would have renewed my Costco membership for this alone. Quebec gas prices now lower than Ontario though I guess that will disappear when the carbon tax is repealed. If you need premium gas Costco is dramatically cheaper (10 cents+ a litre)
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That's too bad. I would have renewed my Costco membership for this alone. Quebec gas prices now lower than Ontario though I guess that will disappear when the carbon tax is repealed. If you need premium gas Costco is dramatically cheaper (10 cents+ a litre)
When the carbon tax is repealed, the oil companies will absorb that tax into profits AND we'll stop receiving our cheques. Though I could see the Cons continuing to send the cheques to keep people who never understood the carbon tax in the first place happy.
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If you need premium gas Costco is dramatically cheaper (10 cents+ a litre)
Or you could go to that guy in Orleans that was selling premium fuel at regular prices because he ran out.
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When the carbon tax is repealed, the oil companies will absorb that tax into profits AND we'll stop receiving our cheques. Though I could see the Cons continuing to send the cheques to keep people who never understood the carbon tax in the first place happy.
It's going to be 20 cents a litre by the time it's repealed. Certainly there might be a little fudging but the price will absolutely drop. Yes we will stop getting our cheques so many of us will be worse of. Personally I know I will be a lot worse off.
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It's going to be 20 cents a litre by the time it's repealed. Certainly there might be a little fudging but the price will absolutely drop. Yes we will stop getting our cheques so many of us will be worse of. Personally I know I will be a lot worse off.
It's going to be a shock to many uneducated blue voters when those cheques disappear and the drop in price at the pump isn't enough to cover the difference. In fact the PBO's report estimates that the first three quintiles of Canadian earners will be worse off (from a combined fiscal and economic perspective) if the Carbon Tax were to be repealed. But that won't stop working class folks from buying into the notion that the tax is bleeding them dry.
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It's going to be a shock to many uneducated blue voters when those cheques disappear and the drop in price at the pump isn't enough to cover the difference. In fact the PBO's report estimates that the first three quintiles of Canadian earners will be worse off (from a combined fiscal and economic perspective) if the Carbon Tax were to be repealed. But that won't stop working class folks from buying into the notion that the tax is bleeding them dry.
I don't think most of them will notice. I'm personally fine with it as the economic drag isn't worth it to me in the long term.
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The first few days after the tax is axed, we will see the pump price drop by the amount of the tax, just to make people happy. Then the gas companies will do what gas companies do, and start the price creep and since we are used to gas prices constantly moving around, nobody will be able to keep track of it.
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I don't think most of them will notice. I'm personally fine with it as the economic drag isn't worth it to me in the long term.
The carbon tax payment should be a check with CARBON TAX REBATE written on it. It's the only way people will know. Otherwise, you're right, they probably won't notice.

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The first few days after the tax is axed, we will see the pump price drop by the amount of the tax, just to make people happy. Then the gas companies will do what gas companies do, and start the price creep and since we are used to gas prices constantly moving around, nobody will be able to keep track of it.
Bingo.
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It's going to be a shock to many uneducated blue voters when those cheques disappear and the drop in price at the pump isn't enough to cover the difference. In fact the PBO's report estimates that the first three quintiles of Canadian earners will be worse off (from a combined fiscal and economic perspective) if the Carbon Tax were to be repealed. But that won't stop working class folks from buying into the notion that the tax is bleeding them dry.
The above is probably true.

These days we do not need a Carbon Tax Election---we need a Trump Tariff election.
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The above is probably true.

These days we do not need a Carbon Tax Election---we need a Trump Tariff election.
Someone finally said it. Indeed.
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The above is probably true.

These days we do not need a Carbon Tax Election---we need a Trump Tariff election.
We just need an Election in general. This current Gov't is a major mess and hopefully we can have adults in the room soon.
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https://www.gatineau.ca/upload/avis_...du_plateau.pdf

I think some wanted Avril at Destination Vanier instead of IGA.

But good news, it might come to Plateau.

Bad news, half the movie theatre will be gone.
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I think some wanted Avril at Destination Vanier instead of IGA.

But good news, it might come to Plateau.

Bad news, half the movie theatre will be gone.
That's too bad. Not like the aera lacks grocery options.
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