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oldstuff · #**35281** Posted **Jun 2, 2016, 2:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

I've reversed the order of the three images in this Julius Shulman set to see how quickly you guess the location. Unless I've missed something, there's not much to go on in the first picture.

There's a big clue through the window at the end of the room in this shot.

Did you get it? This is "Job 1928: Sunkist Building, Sky Room, 1955".

All from Getty Research Institute

When I saw the first picture, I thought that it might be the Cafeteria at LA Superior Court since it was built at the same time and looks a lot like that. It is located on the 9th floor of the courthouse and has an outside area as well.

oldstuff · #**35282** Posted **Jun 2, 2016, 3:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline

The damage magnitude suggests the metal was thin and/or poorly constructed for its purpose as a very secure room. It almost resembles a prop from the nearby RKO or Warners lots. On the other hand, . . . maybe the perpetrator was otherworldly or supernatural?

http://movies.hollywoodrepublican.ne...Thing-them.jpg

http://www.rellimzone.com/images/mov...ld-1951-12.png

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...37b8b5508e.jpg

Those pictures of James Arness in makeup for "The Thing" reminded me of a story he told about that makeup. It took a long time to put on the makeup, especially the hands and on one day he and some friends decided to go off the lot and get a hamburger. The waitress saw the hands, screamed and ran away.

Earl Boebert · #**35283** Posted **Jun 2, 2016, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

http://cdm15799.contentdm.oclc.org/c...oll44/id/85236

Safe burglary, Bill Heath Ford (5500 Lankershim Boulevard), 1956
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Business manager Don Johnson looking over the damage.

I can't imagine what they used to bash the door like that.....a cro-bar maybe?

& what's that behind the gentleman- a cylindrical heater?
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2 images. Safe burglary, Bill Heath Ford (5500 Lankershim Boulevard), 26 March 1956. Don Johnson (business manager) looks over ripped open safe.; Caption slip reads: "Photographer: Glickman. Date: 1956-03-26. Reporter: Glickman. Assignment: Safe burglary, Bill Heath Ford, 5500 Lankershim Blvd. G111/112: Don Johnson, business mgr.
of Bill Heath Ford Co. looks over ripped open safe. Burglars got 17,000 dollars in cash and checks".

http://cdm15799.contentdm.oclc.org/c...oll44/id/85236

Not a safe, but rather a fireproof room for protection of documents. Nobody could "peel" a real safe that was built after the Civil War. The burglars weren't very well equipped; a set of wedges would have popped that thing in 30 seconds. They may have been worried about noise.

Cheers,

Earl

HossC · #**35284** Posted **Jun 2, 2016, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

This Julius Shulman subject certainly isn't new to NLA - it's the Prudential Building on Wilshire Boulevard's Miracle Mile. This is "Job 699: Wurdeman & Becket, Prudential Building (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1950". Several of the pictures also show Ohrbach's.

Getty Research Institute

According to the description, these Julius Shulman photos show the interior of Ohrbach's in the Prudential Building. This is "Job 2804: Ohrbach's, 1959".

All from Getty Research Institute

HossC · #**35285** Posted **Jun 2, 2016, 8:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's the front in all it's faux-east coast colonial ugliness (built in 1951). I thought the building was deserted, but now i think it's just in disrepair.

gsv

Try as I might, I can't read the sign.

close, but fuzzy

detail

The design appears to be a combination of an ankh and a cross with rigging. Does anyone recognize this symbolism?

In my noirish mind I've decided this is a cult.

Googling the address (6826 Pine Avenue) led me to The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC. From rosicrucian.org:

The Rosicrucians are a community of mystics who study and practice the metaphysical laws governing the universe.

The logo on the sign is a version of the one below which I found on Wikipedia.

wikimedia.org

Wikipedia quotes a "list of people who, according to AMORC, were Rosicrucians or associated with Rosicrucian tradition and work" which goes from Isaac Newton and Leonardo da Vinci to Gene Roddenberry and Walt Disney (there's a "citation needed" note with this list).

odinthor · #**35286** Posted **Jun 2, 2016, 8:34 PM**

Another look at the Touraine, at 440 S. Hope St.:

odinthor collection

What's that at the top front of the building? My guess is it's some sort of roof garden or homespun "observation deck."

ethereal_reality · #**35287** Posted **Jun 2, 2016, 11:26 PM**

from earlier

gsv

"In my noirish mind I've decided this is a cult."

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Originally Posted by HossC

Googling the address (6826 Pine Avenue) led me to The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC. From rosicrucian.org:

The Rosicrucians are a community of mystics who study and practice the metaphysical laws governing the universe.

Thanks for this Hoss.

I couldn't find any additional information about 6826 Pine Ave,

....but I found another AMORC location on Gramercy Place (below)

gsv

The following information is from the St. Andrews Square Neighborhood Association website.

"One of the oldest institutions in our midst is the Rosicrucian Lodge located at 148 South Gramercy Place. It is Hermes Lodge #48, a branch of the Rosicrucian Order (AMORC), and the oldest such lodge in Southern California. AMORC, which stands for Antiquus Mysticusque Ordo Rosae Crucis, is not a religion, but a fraternity dedicated to carrying on ancient mystery traditions said to have originated in Egypt.

Hermes Lodge #48, founded in 1927, spent a decade in temporary quarters until members purchased the house at 148 Gramercy Place for $12,500 dollars (with a down of $4,200). It was a two-story craftsman house, full of anterooms and closets, and, after some modification, well suited to the needs of the lodge. The new facility was dedicated on May 8, 1937. Its space, converted to temple use, included a Rose Temple where initiations took place; a Blue Temple and a Green Temple, used as classrooms; and a Convocation Temple; there were also wardrobes, dressing rooms, a library, offices, a kitchen and a garden house. In 1937, there were two “Convocations” every Sunday: one in English and one in Spanish.

After the earthquake of 1971 the building had to be torn down. For two years, members met at the Masonic Hall on Larchmont Boulevard. In January of 1972, a zone variance was granted (the 100-block of North Gramercy being strictly residential). The building we see now was finished in April of 1973. The lodge sponsors open meetings once a month, the third Wednesday, at 7:30."
–Henrietta Cosentino

I spent a good portion of my afternoon searching for a photograph of the original "two story craftsman house."

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I was aware of the Rosicrucians at an early age because of their ads in magazines like Popular Mechanics/Science (my dad had a subscription)

Here's a good example even though this is way before my time.

Oct. 1947

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/rosic...bove-so-below/

I would have especially liked this one if I were a kid around 1933.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/435090...=0&w=208&h=480

And here's a rare glance inside a Rosicrucian 'Temple', dated 1913.

Private Collection / Bridgeman Art Library

They say it isn't a religion, but their symbolism certainly looks religious if you ask me.
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on a side-note:
Directly behind 'Hermes House' is this beautiful branch of the Los Angeles public Library.

gsv

http://www.saintandrewssquare.org/neighborhood-history/

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Earl Boebert · #**35288** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 12:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

[Snip]

I was aware of the Rosicrucians at an early age because of their ads in magazines like Popular Mechanics/Science (my dad had a subscription)

Here's a good example even though this is way before my time.

Oct. 1947

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/rosic...bove-so-below/

I would have especially liked this one if I were a kid around 1933.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/435090...=0&w=208&h=480

[Snip]

They say it isn't a religion, but their symbolism certainly looks religious if you ask me.
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[Snip]

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My mother went to San Jose State Teachers College (Now San Jose State University). The Rosicrucian HQ was basically next door. She thought they were bonkers. FWIW.

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality · #**35289** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 12:09 AM**

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-San-Jos...YAAOSw1DtXI1kn

ethereal_reality · #**35290** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 12:45 AM**

re: Lucky Lager

posted last night.

Whittier CA, Workman Mill Road ca. 1935

I just noticed it looks like he's wearing bell-bottoms....were there bell-bottoms back in the 30s?

1939 newspaper ad

http://www.rustycans.com/COM/month0105.html

By sheer coincidence, this is my second post tonight that features a robot.

http://www.rustycans.com/COM/month0105.html

"One of the more unusual promotions was the "Talking Package." It was actually a robot made of Lucky containers: its body was a beer barrel, the neck, arms and legs were beer cans, and the head and feet were large bottles. One hand held a beer bottle as well. Inside was a microphone and a speaker. An operator hid nearby where he could see the people in front of the robot. Spectators could go up to the "talking package" and ask him questions about Lucky Lager and the Lucky robot would answer them. (see photos below). The robot was part of a larger exhibit. He was flanked by two large screens, each with a single large Lucky red cross logo. Set up on a platform so it was viable from a distance in a crowded room at a trade show, it made quite an impression."

rustycans

They also had a nice jingle in their tv commercials (1960s?)

Click Here : http://footage.framepool.com/en/shot...est-commercial

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riichkay · #**35291** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 1:16 AM**

I wanted to post a reply that included a building permit from the city's online search feature, how are you guys posting these? The reply calls for the permit page URL to be inserted, but when I did this the post preview did not show the image.

ethereal_reality · #**35292** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 1:17 AM**

I could be wrong (of course

), but I don't believe we've seen this view of Sixth and Los Angeles streets.

old file

If you look in front of the bus station there are two different styles of streetlight designs (the 2 globe and the 5 globe),

and across the street there is a third style....a single globe streetlight (far left).

So why is this?

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Earl Boebert · #**35293** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 3:27 AM**

Dear God, Lucky Lager beer. Something under a dime a can by the case IIRC. I feel a hangover coming on just thinking about it.

Cheers,

Earl

MichaelRyerson · #**35294** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 2:16 PM**

Just a quick note in passing to say that 12,000,000 is a big number. Congratulations to e-r, our esteemed leader (and alpha-poster), and everybody else who makes this place go. Currently a nice crew. Thanks.

MichaelRyerson · #**35295** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 3:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I could be wrong (of course

), but I don't believe we've seen this view of Sixth and Los Angeles streets.

old file

If you look in front of the bus station there are two different styles of streetlight designs (the 2 globe and the 5 globe),

and across the street there is a third style....a single globe streetlight (far left).

So why is this?

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The Llewellyns went in on 5th Street really early, maybe 1910ish. Then were installed on 6th Street. So that's where your five globes are coming from. Los Angeles Street seems to have 1620s or maybe 1193s either of which would make sense. The single globe over here on the left is harder to figure. I thought maybe a five-globe Llewellyn had been partially dismantled to allow for the directional arrow being mounted at a prescribed height. I don't really know.

ethereal_reality · #**35296** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 3:50 PM**

Thanks for your help Michael_Ryerson.

re: the arrow* on the 'single-globe' streetlight.

It looks like it denotes a one-way street, but I'm not sure there were one-way streets back then.

...maybe there's something written within the arrow itself -Air Raid Shelter perhaps.
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*I just noticed there's another arrow on the 'two-globe' streetlight over by the bus station.(circled below)

detail

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MichaelRyerson · #**35297** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 3:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for your help Michael_Ryerson.

re: the arrow on the 'single-globe' streetlight.

It looks like it denotes a one-way street, but that's not right is it?

Is there something written within the arrow itself -Air Raid Shelter maybe?

*I just noticed there's an arrow on the 'two-globe' streetlight over by the bus station.(circled below)

detail
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Typically the 'one-way' arrow actually says 'one-way' within the arrow. I believe the thinking may have been the arrow alone would not be sufficient and would likely result in hundreds of motorists simply turning their heads to see what was so important.

ethereal_reality · #**35298** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 4:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

would likely result in hundreds of motorists simply turning their heads to see what was so important.

lol, I found this humorous M_R....were you being cheeky?
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ethereal_reality · #**35299** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 4:08 PM**

www.pinterest.com/bowling_alley

"Woodley Lewis outside his 'Sportsman Bowl' bowling alley in Los Angeles, Calif. ca.1962."

The caption didn't include an address.....does anyone know where Mr. Lewis's bowling alley was located?
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p.s. I love the sign! look how tall the tallest spike is.....amazing.

MichaelRyerson · #**35300** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 4:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

lol, I found this humorous M_R....were you being cheeky?
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Yes, of course. Always.