Atlanta Project Thread IV

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

New rendering


Old rendering

Noooooo, the original rendering was so much better!! What an unfortunate downgrade.

[smArTaLlone]

Originally Posted by Martinman

There's a discrepancy in this article.

and then

Could it be that the Norfolk HQ is 856,000 square feet with the remaining 400,000 square feet being spec?

If that is true then there is a great chance that this will include a skyline changing tower.

[jpk1292000]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Noooooo, the original rendering was so much better!! What an unfortunate downgrade.

I actually think it’s better.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by jpk1292000

I actually think it’s better.

Interesting. Any particular reason why? I could not disagree more. IMO, the new rendering is rather generic, meanwhile the original is distinguishable and evokes a sense of style and place. I could even argue the old rendering is more interesting than J5's design.

[jpk1292000]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Interesting. Any particular reason why? I could not disagree more. IMO, the new rendering is rather generic, meanwhile the original is distinguishable and evokes a sense of style and place. I could even argue the old rendering is more interesting than J5's design.

I really like the glass balconies on the new rendering.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by jpk1292000

I really like the glass balconies on the new rendering.

Not sure, but from my perspective it appears the new renderings don't include glass balconies (they closely resemble the middle unit balconies from the older rendering), meanwhile the old rendering corner units clearly depicted glass balconies. Again, just what it appears to me.

I enjoyed how the original rendering seemed to have more privacy for each unit's balcony, how well the various materials appeared to seamlessly transition between the facades (and variations of insets and pop-outs among each facade), greater window presence, tiered back end into the SFH neighborhood, and how the materials appeared to be warmer/more inviting than the heavy gray on the newer rendering.

[jpk1292000]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Not sure, but from my perspective it appears the new renderings don't include glass balconies (they closely resemble the middle unit balconies from the older rendering), meanwhile the old rendering corner units clearly depicted glass balconies. Again, just what it appears to me.

I enjoyed how the original rendering seemed to have more privacy for each unit's balcony, how well the various materials appeared to seamlessly transition between the facades (and variations of insets and pop-outs among each facade), greater window presence, tiered back end into the SFH neighborhood, and how the materials appeared to be warmer/more inviting than the heavy gray on the newer rendering.

Maybe it’s not clear to me which rendering is the new one and which is the old.

[Street Advocate]

New Rendering (gray and brick design):


Old Rendering (white, glass, and orange design):


All of their projects (including 126 Renaissance, Hard Rock Hotel, J5) can be found here:
http://www.dezhuus.com/projects

[cabasse]

what a shame. was just discussing this one and whether or not it was low-income housing. probably still not such, but aesthetically just barely average now. still, i suppose not everything can be architecturally stunning these days due to costs...

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by cabasse

what a shame. was just discussing this one and whether or not it was low-income housing. probably still not such, but aesthetically just barely average now. still, i suppose not everything can be architecturally stunning these days due to costs...

IMO, this project just dropped from being a model for what I'd want to see in Atlanta (had it included some retail I would have given it a solid ), to now just being an infill project that could be located anywhere in any city. Nothing special about it.

[Libertarian]

I get the feeling some of you middle class yups and millennials think the lower income residents of Atlanta should just disappear and everything gentrify with Starbucks and Apple stores.

[jpk1292000]

Ok, in my view in the original post the image of the original rendering did not show up. Now that you reposted it, I agree that it’s not as interesting as the original version. It I still think it’s nice, especially with the dark brick.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

I get the feeling some of you middle class yups and millennials think the lower income residents of Atlanta should just disappear and everything gentrify with Starbucks and Apple stores.

Most millennials I speak to want people of all races and incomes to live in their neighborhood, have access to the same schools/resources/public infrastructure, locally owned/run businesses, and especially local restaurants. Retail is a tossup, because a lot is just ordered online from whoever sells it the cheapest.

In general, millennials want a good quality of life for everyone and are optimist and adamant at making it happen since it is possible.

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

I get the feeling some of you middle class yups and millennials think the lower income residents of Atlanta should just disappear and everything gentrify with Starbucks and Apple stores.

no, not that at all for me at least. it's just that the stuff that's supposed to be nice, (and has the expensive rent along with it) is mediocre when it shouldn't be, like some of the newest stuff on pharr rd for example. (hanover east paces, alexan buckhead) there are plenty more than that.

nothing wrong with wanting design to be as good as it possibly can be, at any level.

[skyscraperpage17]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

I get the feeling some of you middle class yups and millennials think the lower income residents of Atlanta should just disappear and everything gentrify with Starbucks and Apple stores.

Some say they just want stuff that's "nice," but the reality is the economic environment in America today only allows for a relatively small percentage of people with means to have access to and enjoy that "nice" stuff.

It's not any one individual or group's fault, but's a sympton of a bigger problem our country is facing caused by a culmination of factors with no easy fix, that being wealth inequality. It's almost like a new Gilded Age.

Long gone are the days when you would have poor/working class people, CEOs/celebrities and middle class professionals/laborers all being able to live amongst each other in the same neighborhoods while all enjoying the same amenities.

[midtownblue]

RE: "long gone are the days..."
When was that the case in Atlanta?

[Sura]

I miss the days when celebrities lived in the same neighborhood as sanitation workers. Back then, milk was a nickel and everyone said ma'am and sir.

[Vaden]

I wish someone would take some photos of the progress at Peachtree Center's renovation.

[ATLswede]

Originally Posted by Sura

I miss the days when celebrities lived in the same neighborhood as sanitation workers. Back then, milk was a nickel and everyone said ma'am and sir.

Yeah, and African Americans couldn't attend white schools, people regularly died of "mysterious" illnesses we now know how to treat with (often) inexpensive drugs, and people breathed toxic air and drank poisoned water because there were no environmental regulations. The old days were not all they're cracked up to be.

Income inequality is a serious problem, but nostalgia for the past is misplaced.

[Neighbor]

Originally Posted by ATLswede

The old days were not all they're cracked up to be.

Income inequality is a serious problem, but nostalgia for the past is misplaced.

Imagine being this literal brainlet and having no sense of irony.