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urbanpln · #**33981** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 3:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Awesome. Is there a timeline on this? Seems like CHA hasn't really been building anything of late

Don't have a timeline yet.

urbanpln · #**33982** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 3:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

According to Wikipedia, Ickes originally had about 740 units, so this would only be an increase of 100 to 150 units, which isn't all that impressive.

In the end there could probably be more units. There's land on the east side of State Street that's vacant and was not part of the Ickes RFP. DPD estimated 2 years ago that the additional land could hold another 500-600 units (Cermak to 26th). While its not super dense its still better that whats there now which is nothing. Also DPD pushed for higher densities back then, but there was push back for lots of different players. Lastly, the Ickes site could see another tower on the south end if the market can handle it.

urbanpln · #**33983** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 3:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Awesome. Is there a timeline on this? Seems like CHA hasn't really been building anything of late

Update! I was told by a CHA insider that June of 2017 is the targeted date for a ground breaking.

the urban politician · #**33984** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 4:19 PM**

HELLS YEAH if this thing gets redeveloped. I fucking HATE this strip mall! Yes yes yes yes I hope the buyer is a bold developer:

North side shopping center for sale in redevelopment play

Baronvonellis · #**33985** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 4:20 PM**

Uptown is really booming now! With the Lawrence house, old Aon building rehab, and some other Cedar st. projects, there will be about 1600 new units being built in uptown now. Plus, the new Wilson station.

marothisu · #**33986** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

HELLS YEAH if this thing gets redeveloped. I fucking HATE this strip mall! Yes yes yes yes I hope the buyer is a bold developer:

North side shopping center for sale in redevelopment play

That's potentially awesome news - let's hope it's a good developer who doesn't want to make another suburban piece of shit. Also noted in there is how they want to spruce up their Logan Square (2475 N Milwaukee) property. It states they want to make it 4 stories (right now it's 1) and maybe add condos/apartments above it. That's great news even if small.

urbanpln · #**33987** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 4:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

^ and not all of the new housing would be CHA (probably only 30%-40%) so there's a big net decrease in public housing.

Plus, a big chunk of Ickes was given over to Jones HS for athletic facilities, so the actual density on the remaining land is probably similar to or higher than what Ickes was.

You are right. Approximately 6 acres was given to CPS (Jones) for athletic field, so the densities will be higher.

tjp · #**33988** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 5:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

That's potentially awesome news - let's hope it's a good developer who doesn't want to make another suburban piece of shit. Also noted in there is how they want to spruce up their Logan Square (2475 N Milwaukee) property. It states they want to make it 4 stories (right now it's 1) and maybe add condos/apartments above it. That's great news even if small.

I sure hope they don't include surface parking in their plans for the Logan Square location.

mattshoe · #**33989** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 5:40 PM**

Isnt that where the LGBT affordable housing is going to go? Or is that just the parking lot?

UrbanLibertine · #**33990** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

HELLS YEAH if this thing gets redeveloped. I fucking HATE this strip mall! Yes yes yes yes I hope the buyer is a bold developer:

North side shopping center for sale in redevelopment play

That is fantastic news! I almost intentionally stand on the other side of the train when I take the brown line everyday because I can't stand seeing that site and the Presence surface parking lots that close to downtown and in such a stabilized neighborhood.

UrbanLibertine · #**33991** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 5:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by mattshoe

Isnt that where the LGBT affordable housing is going to go? Or is that just the parking lot?

Neither. That LGBT housing is just north of Armitage. The restaurant site is just north of Fullerton.

sage · #**33992** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 6:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

That's potentially awesome news - let's hope it's a good developer who doesn't want to make another suburban piece of shit. Also noted in there is how they want to spruce up their Logan Square (2475 N Milwaukee) property. It states they want to make it 4 stories (right now it's 1) and maybe add condos/apartments above it. That's great news even if small.

Between the Mega Mall redevelopment and this, that intersection (Sacramento/Milwaukee) could look a lot better in a couple years. I hope their plans involve removing or hiding the parking lot that's dominating the corner now.

ardecila · #**33993** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 7:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by urbanpln

In the end there could probably be more units. There's land on the east side of State Street that's vacant and was not part of the Ickes RFP. DPD estimated 2 years ago that the additional land could hold another 500-600 units (Cermak to 26th). While its not super dense its still better that whats there now which is nothing. Also DPD pushed for higher densities back then, but there was push back for lots of different players. Lastly, the Ickes site could see another tower on the south end if the market can handle it.

Isn't that land all privately owned, though? I hope it gets developed, but it won't be by the CHA...

urbanpln · #**33994** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

Isn't that land all privately owned, though? I hope it gets developed, but it won't be by the CHA...

I believe the City owns one of the parcels, but the rest are privately owned.

sentinel · #**33995** Posted **Jun 27, 2016, 10:41 PM**

Good Lord, talk about too little, too late...

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...r-lucas-museum

Via Chicago · #**33996** Posted **Jun 28, 2016, 12:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by sentinel

Good Lord, talk about too little, too late...

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...r-lucas-museum

how would this have stopped anything? its not like the city and Lucas didnt have high paid lawyers of their own

UPChicago · #**33997** Posted **Jun 28, 2016, 12:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Kenmore

this been talked about yet? not sure if legit but hoping we see a wave of TOD around Wilson.

The Cedar St. mid rise will be going up right down the street on Wilson, so there could be a great density boost around the new station.

http://www.uptownupdate.com/2016/06/...-oriented.html

I'm not a fan, I walk past this location frequently, I always envisioned a flat iron building here as Broadway is not a completely straight north-south thoroughfare. I prefer the development be congruent proportionally with the height of its historic neighbors, those building are not going anywhere so please do not place an oversized imposing building next to them. There should be a setback after the third floor to respect the cornice heights of the neighboring structures with the rest of the five stories rising behind the setback. I would also prefer a curve at the intersection to mirror the building on the southwest corner of the intersection. New development should enhance the neighborhood and complement the existing stock not completely destroy a neighborhood's character and replace it with imposing and unpleasant structures. I am not advocating low density, hell if they could build something 12 stories there I'm game but the design should have SOME thought behind it. Not only would designing something more fitting there enhance the neighborhood, it makes financial sense. I understand people don't see the potential in Uptown due to the amount of vagrancy and crime in the area but as a residence I can attest to the fact that its historic building stock is impeccable and should be built upon. This design looks like something they picked out of the barney bag of pre-designed mid rises.

the urban politician · #**33998** Posted **Jun 28, 2016, 1:37 AM**

^ To hell with that. Enough with the historical neighbor respecting argument.

I'm so tired of this 2-4 level density in all of Chicago's neighborhoods. The city NEEDS to be denser.

Rizzo · #**33999** Posted **Jun 28, 2016, 1:45 AM**

Kind of a clunker but I like the density.

Jibba · #**34000** Posted **Jun 28, 2016, 1:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by UPChicago

I'm not a fan, I walk past this location frequently and I always envisions a flat iron scheme here. Also I would prefer the new development be congruent with the height of its history neighbors at least a setback matching the height and the rest of the height pushed back. The design overall doesn't fit.

It's not the absolute size that's the problem. The proportions of the design elements are too large. Fineness in the facade would help relate it to the historic stock.