HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > General Development


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #3381  
Old Posted Dec 24, 2023, 6:05 PM
UrbanRevival UrbanRevival is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 465
Let's also not be dishonest about accountability.

Lest we forget the recent looting fiasco involving "Meatball" and her social media followers, they were swiftly tracked down, arrested and charged.

If you have any doubts that the pendulum in the city isn't swinging back after the 2020 shitshow, you're not paying attention. The city is clearly being much more aggressive about the social mayhem bullshit, which is poised to be ramped-up under with a new incoming Mayor with much lower tolerance for such things.

Yes, we will continue to hear about the crappy anecdotes about crime or failed business deals that may or may not be able to be corroborated, but if you can't see that the Philadelphia is on a much better different trajectory than 3 years ago (and poised to improve further), I don't know what to tell you.

Last edited by UrbanRevival; Dec 24, 2023 at 6:23 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3382  
Old Posted Dec 24, 2023, 7:02 PM
Frontst17 Frontst17 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 282
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyhigh07 View Post
Finally a comprehensive article on retail decline in CC. Sounds kind we were about to get a Zara until the mass looting incident. I’m sure there are many others we don’t know about. This is on Krasner, progressives and “it’s just property” folks. You all should be apologizing if you had a shred of decency. I hope you’re happy.

https://www.bisnow.com/philadelphia/...-future-122156

Sorry we didn’t get a Zara
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3383  
Old Posted Dec 24, 2023, 8:49 PM
reparcsyks reparcsyks is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 385
Quote:
Originally Posted by frontst17 View Post
sorry we didn’t get a zara
lol!!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3384  
Old Posted Dec 25, 2023, 6:01 PM
3rd&Brown 3rd&Brown is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,485
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frontst17 View Post
Sorry we didn’t get a Zara
Right? What would we do without a company that makes clothes with slaves who get paid pennies a day.

Shame on us.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3385  
Old Posted Dec 26, 2023, 2:41 AM
yuryphilly yuryphilly is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanRevival View Post
Let's also not be dishonest about accountability.

Lest we forget the recent looting fiasco involving "Meatball" and her social media followers, they were swiftly tracked down, arrested and charged.

If you have any doubts that the pendulum in the city isn't swinging back after the 2020 shitshow, you're not paying attention. The city is clearly being much more aggressive about the social mayhem bullshit, which is poised to be ramped-up under with a new incoming Mayor with much lower tolerance for such things.

Yes, we will continue to hear about the crappy anecdotes about crime or failed business deals that may or may not be able to be corroborated, but if you can't see that the Philadelphia is on a much better different trajectory than 3 years ago (and poised to improve further), I don't know what to tell you.
I hope it's not going to be just empty promises and a return to the status quo. There is a lot of inertia in the city and resistance to change on multiple levels. I really hope in the next couple years there will be an improvement.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3386  
Old Posted Dec 27, 2023, 1:31 AM
yuryphilly yuryphilly is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 108
New 30th station entrance

New UPenn lab at 3200 Walnut
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3387  
Old Posted Dec 27, 2023, 12:35 PM
TK2001's Avatar
TK2001 TK2001 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Not your business
Posts: 2,577
Just like New York, our low-rise buildings have great GREAT designs. Something like that lab or 3151 Market should be extended into a skyscraper. In my opinion we haven't got an "exotic" design for a tower since the W
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3388  
Old Posted Dec 27, 2023, 2:43 PM
PHLtoNYC PHLtoNYC is offline
Chris
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Earth
Posts: 2,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by TK2001 View Post
Just like New York, our low-rise buildings have great GREAT designs. Something like that lab or 3151 Market should be extended into a skyscraper. In my opinion we haven't got an "exotic" design for a tower since the W
Though not very tall, 2301 JFK may qualify, and Arthaus isn't exotic, but still stunning (IMO).
But I hear ya.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3389  
Old Posted Dec 27, 2023, 2:52 PM
TK2001's Avatar
TK2001 TK2001 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Not your business
Posts: 2,577
Yea, 2301 JFK and 3001 JFK are very exciting. But that discussion is for another forum
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3390  
Old Posted Dec 27, 2023, 5:19 PM
yuryphilly yuryphilly is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 108
Amy Gutmann Hall on a former parking lot in University City


The whole area has a lot of construction going on, with steel rising on every corner


New apartment building on Market st, adaptive reuse of an old facade with an overbuild
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3391  
Old Posted Dec 28, 2023, 12:16 AM
cardeza cardeza is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by yuryphilly View Post
I hope it's not going to be just empty promises and a return to the status quo. There is a lot of inertia in the city and resistance to change on multiple levels. I really hope in the next couple years there will be an improvement.
Crime was lower under Nutter. That wasn't that long ago, it can be done and has been done. The stats clearly show that. This isn't some crazy theory that has yet to be executed, it was done as recently as 8 years ago. The number of homicides doubled over a ten year period.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3392  
Old Posted Dec 28, 2023, 6:27 PM
Urbanthusiat's Avatar
Urbanthusiat Urbanthusiat is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: South Philly
Posts: 1,692
Quote:
Originally Posted by yuryphilly View Post
New apartment building on Market st, adaptive reuse of an old facade with an overbuild
This will be an office building, not apartments, just FYI.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301815108.html
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3393  
Old Posted Dec 28, 2023, 8:09 PM
Jayfar's Avatar
Jayfar Jayfar is offline
Midrise
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,546
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat View Post
This will be an office building, not apartments, just FYI.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301815108.html
You mean life sciences including lab space.
__________________
Philadelphia Industrial & Commercial Heritage
A public Facebook group to promote appreciation of Greater Philadelphia's industrial and commercial history and advocate for historic preservation and adaptive re-use.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3394  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2024, 1:48 AM
TonyTone's Avatar
TonyTone TonyTone is offline
Tony V / ValuezTV
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Philly Metro DE-PA-NJ
Posts: 1,498
I want to take back a comment I made on Retail in Philly; we do need to improve it, after seeing 6th Ave in NYC last week and the amount of foot traffic and stores that they have on one strip compared to 3 of ours, we really need to upgrade and try to get some more stores, we are doing good but we can use improvements.
__________________
Promoting Cities since 1998! | ValuezTv | Philadelphia Photo Thread | Wilmington Photo Thread | ValuezTv IG | ValuezTv X
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3395  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2024, 1:09 PM
cardeza cardeza is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyTone View Post
I want to take back a comment I made on Retail in Philly; we do need to improve it, after seeing 6th Ave in NYC last week and the amount of foot traffic and stores that they have on one strip compared to 3 of ours, we really need to upgrade and try to get some more stores, we are doing good but we can use improvements.
I think anyone who walks along the east side of Market, Chestnut and Walnut should agree even if they haven't been to 6th ave or any other major urban shopping district. Months back I said that Charleston's urban retail core was looking better than ours and I got "schooled" by numerous people about how you can't compare the two cities and how in spite of what I saw Philly is on another level etc. Sometimes things are as simple as what they appear to be- nothing more nothing less. There is a lot fo vacancy here and in center city there are not a lot of places to buy BASIC goods. I worked down there for many years and on the east side particularly you are really reliant on drug stores for many basics, especially once Target closed.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3396  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2024, 2:09 PM
Gatorade_Jim's Avatar
Gatorade_Jim Gatorade_Jim is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
Posts: 527
Quote:
Originally Posted by cardeza View Post
I think anyone who walks along the east side of Market, Chestnut and Walnut should agree even if they haven't been to 6th ave or any other major urban shopping district. Months back I said that Charleston's urban retail core was looking better than ours and I got "schooled" by numerous people about how you can't compare the two cities and how in spite of what I saw Philly is on another level etc. Sometimes things are as simple as what they appear to be- nothing more nothing less. There is a lot fo vacancy here and in center city there are not a lot of places to buy BASIC goods. I worked down there for many years and on the east side particularly you are really reliant on drug stores for many basics, especially once Target closed.
Hopefully mayor Parker gives businesses like Zara the confidence to open stores here
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3397  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2024, 2:24 PM
reparcsyks reparcsyks is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 385
How many more high end homes and luxury towers do we need before the numbers make sense for decent retail to move in?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3398  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2024, 3:22 PM
Knight Hospitaller's Avatar
Knight Hospitaller Knight Hospitaller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Greater Philadelphia
Posts: 2,890
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatorade_Jim View Post
Hopefully mayor Parker gives businesses like Zara the confidence to open stores here
Cautiously optimistic about her and the new Commish. The other piece to this puzzle, however, is the DA's office. Now that the former Mayor has checked out physically (having long ago checked out in other respects), maybe there can be some pushback from that side of the aisle. Republicans in Harrisburg complaining about it is just seen as political.
__________________
Paterfamilias
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3399  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2024, 3:25 PM
Knight Hospitaller's Avatar
Knight Hospitaller Knight Hospitaller is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Greater Philadelphia
Posts: 2,890
Quote:
Originally Posted by reparcsyks View Post
How many more high end homes and luxury towers do we need before the numbers make sense for decent retail to move in?
As much as we need to question local conditions and policies, and not adopt an "it's fine" approach, I do agree with past statements that the other part of this equation seems to be an intractable negative bias/cluelessness concerning Philadelphia among national brand decision makers.
__________________
Paterfamilias
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3400  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2024, 3:27 PM
Redddog Redddog is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 1,476
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller View Post
Cautiously optimistic about her and the new Commish. The other piece to this puzzle, however, is the DA's office. Now that the former Mayor has checked out physically (having long ago checked out in other respects), maybe there can be some pushback from that side of the aisle. Republicans in Harrisburg complaining about it is just seen as political.
The last domino to fall.

The problem is that he was and probably will be elected again. It's insane.

Parker is hitting all the right notes on day one. Lets see if she can pull it off with city council the way it's currently constructed.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > General Development
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 4:50 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.