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Old Posted Jan 23, 2006, 4:35 AM
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I loveeee those pics first off. Secondly, it was weird. the other day I was watching the news, and they said the RSA tower currently stands at 740 feet right now. Does that sound not right, or is it just me?
That is incorrect for sure, it is probably around 500 feet right now...
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2006, 4:32 PM
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that's pretty cool, musicisright... do you know what the significance of the different colors is?
It looks like different colors are being used to differentiate the various sections that will be pre-frabricated before assembly, either in a shop or on the ground.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2006, 6:17 AM
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Beautiful pics, AnnapolisMD. I really like the angle from the I-10 ramp.

Thanks, musicisright & sahara727, for your compliments on my picture. I took that shot from the top of the hill just west of the I-65/US90 interchange, on a neighborhood street right alongside, and parallel to, US90, across from the Country Club.

The crown stuff is fascinating. I could imagine just how dizzyingly beautiful it would be to stand inside the crown on the bottom floor and gaze through the crown skyward and ... man, the views of the outside world would floor every one of us who set foot inside the crown for the first time. Gee, I wish it would be open to the public. I say that we Mobilians join hands and demand that the crown be accessible to the public! I don't mind paying an admission fee. It is worth the price.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2006, 6:52 AM
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I was going to ask is there an observation deck? Next time I'm in Alabama, I'm going to have to get to Mobile.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2006, 2:59 PM
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Didn't the original plan in include an observation deck? I think I remember reading that somewhere, but it got scrapped for some reason. I definately think we need to lobby for one.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2006, 4:55 PM
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Didn't the original plan in include an observation deck? I think I remember reading that somewhere, but it got scrapped for some reason. I definately think we need to lobby for one.
It got scrapped because of security concerns.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2006, 3:39 AM
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Looks good and just as the rendering originally depicted!!
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2006, 5:14 AM
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I see the "on again" "off again" web cam is "off again" since last Thursday. You Mobilians let us know when some metal starts showing up on top.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2006, 10:04 PM
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Just emailed the RSA webmaster about the cam. I hope it'll be back up in time for us to witness the assembly of the crown.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2006, 12:23 AM
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http://www.theharbinger.org/then_now/

this website is really depressing. It shows all the old beautiful buildings in Mobile that have been demolished, and usually replaced with either an empty, unpaved lot, or a burger king or something.




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Old Posted Jan 28, 2006, 3:22 AM
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Sad, so very sad.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2006, 4:26 PM
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That's nothing - there were more than 30,000 historic (100 + years old when demolished) structures demolished in Mobile in the name of urban development. The area that is now the civic center was called Spanish Alley and just there had over 2,000 buildings built mostly in the 1700's. I get so damn mad just thinking about it. We live in a great city - but it could have been much greater if it weren't for the short sightedness of local, state, and federal leaders in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2006, 5:47 AM
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Oh man! I didn't know that about the Spanish Alley, pkp. Now, that made me mad, too, especially about the fact that most dated from the 1700s. But, all is not lost. As long as there are still architectural plans and photographs for some of the same structures that were lost to urban renewal, replicas can be built, and they would be far more structurally sound and still show the interesting architectural details of the time when they were designed. A whole community of homes/offices could be built using centuries-old architectural designs in the spirit of Pensacola's Aragon neighborhood.
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The area between Dauphin Street and De Tonti Square would be perfect for a large-scale mixed-used community of arhitectural replicas. Massive buildings, such as the Customs House, could be constructed on sites nearest the 'high-rise district' of the Royal Street vicinity. This would allow the density to slowly 'stagger down' as one moves away from the central business core. Oh, and there should also be ample landscaped open spaces.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2006, 5:40 PM
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The downtown skyline looked good on ESPN Saturday.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2006, 8:45 PM
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The downtown skyline looked good on ESPN Saturday.
I agree, it looked great... I especially liked the view from the top of Ladd-Peebles towards the CBD.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2006, 12:10 AM
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Crown Status and more details

FYI: This article is from the Mobile Register.

Tower tiara
Steel tubing crown with 80-foot spire to top off RSA building over next three months; weather permitting, project may wrap up by year's end
Sunday, January 29, 2006
By KATHY JUMPER
Real Estate Editor
Alabama's future tallest building will be crowned with 743 tons of steel and an 80-foot spire in the next three months, and if Mother Nature cooperates, the 35-story RSA Battle House Tower could be complete by the end of the year.

"If it were a perfect world, we'd like to think we'd be substantially finished in 2006," said Ron Blount, project director for the Retirement Systems of Alabama's $162 million office tower and the adjacent 250-room Battle House Hotel on Royal Street.

"But we've had four hurricanes and two tropical storms" during the three years of construction, Blount said this past week. "This has been the worst weather nightmare of my 38-year career."

Severe weather has required the evacuation of the 600 workers at RSA's construction site at Water and Dauphin streets several times in the past three years, he said. But the project was hit hardest by Hurricane Katrina last August. The hurricane's storm surge flooded part of downtown Mobile and caused $12 million to $16 million worth of damage to the RSA site -- much of it saltwater damage to materials and equipment that had to be replaced.

Air conditioning and heating units had been shut down on the entire project since Katrina, but were restored last week, Blount said. The last replacement part for the elevators will be delivered in mid-February.

The circa 1909 hotel, which initially had been scheduled to open in August as a Marriott Renaissance Hotel, may now have a "soft" opening by the end of the year, according to Blount.

Work on the hotel rooms in the Battle House and the 745-foot office tower is moving along well, according to John White-Spunner of White-Spunner Construction of Mobile, the contractor for the interior finishes to the hotel and the parking deck. The first seven floors of the tower will have some hotel rooms and conference rooms. Work is also under way on the hotel ballrooms and restoring the historic plaster work in the lobby and public rooms.

Construction on a 1,000-space parking deck and spa building on St. Francis Street should start in three to four weeks, he said.

Officials with Archer Western Contractors, the firm building the core and shell of the tower, have spent several months planning the installation of the tower's crown, which consists of more than a mile of carbon steel tubing.

Iron workers will spend three to four months putting the crown together, according to Pete Faulkner, project manager for Archer Western of Atlanta. "It's equivalent to putting a 12-story building on top of the existing concrete structure, it's so high and there's so much of it."

The 260-foot crown and spire will be installed on top of the tower's 41st floor.

The crown comes in 12 pieces, has a total height of 180 feet and includes 743 tons of steel, according to Blount. The pieces were manufactured in Chattanooga, Tenn., and trucked here.

The 80-foot spire will be installed, via helicopter, on top of the crown.

The interior of the crown structure will be used for maintenance and building operations. Only the building's first 35 floors are designed to be occupied by tenants

Faulkner said that this is the first time he's worked on a high-rise building that featured a huge crown. "But that's what makes the building so unique," he said. "It's a cool-looking building."

Finishing the tower by the end of the year "is a realistic projection," barring another hurricane, Faulkner said. "Our staff has been planning so hard to take this building to the next step and it's starting to pay off."

Furnishings and equipment for the interior of the building such as carpet, bath fixtures and furniture have been purchased and are stored in a warehouse waiting to be installed, according to Blount.

When construction on the tower started in October 2002, RSA officials had hoped to have the tower and hotel open in three years.

"You have to give the people who do the work credit," for the progress, Blount said. "You hate for a project to be late; it's not good for the contractor or the owner. But these hurricanes were acts of God, and there's nothing you can do."
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2006, 1:59 AM
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That's nothing - there were more than 30,000 historic (100 + years old when demolished) structures demolished in Mobile in the name of urban development. The area that is now the civic center was called Spanish Alley and just there had over 2,000 buildings built mostly in the 1700's. I get so damn mad just thinking about it. We live in a great city - but it could have been much greater if it weren't for the short sightedness of local, state, and federal leaders in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
what the hell were they thinking?

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Old Posted Jan 30, 2006, 2:30 PM
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Did anyone happen to get any TiVo'd screenshots of the skyline from Saturday? I was at the game, but I was sitting pretty low so I couldn't see any of it.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2006, 4:14 PM
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what the hell were they thinking?

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Well, I think it happened in most cities, just worst than others here.

nick - that area would be a great location for development - actually all along St. Louis Street. I really hope there is a concnetrated effort on developing the entire area inside the Broad Street Loop within the next five years. Although the residential is really coming along on Dauphin, and hopefully on the river, the whole Broad Street area and most everything North of St. Louis Street (save De Tonti) look terrible. I was car-less for a while about 5 years ago and went to Bishop State a few nights a week for about year. The walk from Royal Street to Broad along St. Louis is not the most appealing - especially at night. Does anyone know if the Federal Courthouse (supposed to be built on St. Louis) have gone anywhere, or did they get trashed will the others?
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