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Old Posted Dec 15, 2017, 9:50 PM
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I think the corner could be executed better to make it more grand. There should be double-height lobby that would be way more prominent and inviting than this.
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Does anyone have any information about the rental signs plastered all over the Charleson? I heard the rent was $5000 a month furnished and they’re trying to treat it like an Airbnb by making it a monthly stay. Which section is rental, the lowrise building facing Richards? At $5000 it’s not for the average person and does not provide a solution to the housing issue.
Nice. I'd be thrilled if I had shelled out a couple million to buy in what is essentially an apartment building.

One more reason why condos are the worst of both worlds.
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ONNI has done short term rental in contravention of City bylaws before - at Level (Nelson & Seymour).
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Nice. I'd be thrilled if I had shelled out a couple million to buy in what is essentially an apartment building.

One more reason why condos are the worst of both worlds.
If you're thinking of dropping a couple of million on a condo Downtown, you should read the right blog to make sure you know what's proposed.

"This tower had 130 rental units in a 9-storey podium (along with a 37 space childcare) and 139 condo units in the tower." Provided they're rented for a minimum of 30 days at a time, Onni can try to rent the rental units at whatever somebody is willing to pay. They've already rented units at Level, further up Seymour, which is actually a strata building that they chose to hang onto (for now) and didn't sell off. As officedweller noted, they were caught leasing units there for less than 30 days, and have supposedly stopped doing that. This isn't a Rental 100 project, so they didn't get any DCL or CAC incentives.
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If you're thinking of dropping a couple of million on a condo Downtown, you should read the right blog to make sure you know what's proposed.

"This tower had 130 rental units in a 9-storey podium (along with a 37 space childcare) and 139 condo units in the tower." Provided they're rented for a minimum of 30 days at a time, Onni can try to rent the rental units at whatever somebody is willing to pay. They've already rented units at Level, further up Seymour, which is actually a strata building that they chose to hang onto (for now) and didn't sell off. As officedweller noted, they were caught leasing units there for less than 30 days, and have supposedly stopped doing that. This isn't a Rental 100 project, so they didn't get any DCL or CAC incentives.
Are you sure it's the podium units the rental signs refer to? Sounds like the Charleson Tower itself.Which is odd, as when I looed at it ONNI said they were down to the last few. I wasn't impressed about paying close to $1 million for a view of the lane.
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Are you sure it's the podium units the rental signs refer to? Sounds like the Charleson Tower itself.Which is odd, as when I looed at it ONNI said they were down to the last few. I wasn't impressed about paying close to $1 million for a view of the lane.
That's what the rezoning application said: "The project is comprised of a slender 42-storey market residential component and an 8-storey rental residential building with a Daycare Facility and Retail space at grade"

It's always possible that they're renting some of the tower as well, but it's surprising if they didn't sell them, especially as the Wall tower on the same block is rental.
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Looks like there's just one 3,720 sq ft 3-bed for sale at $8,888,000. The render has been stretched so much you'd never guess it was a tall slender tower!

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That said, good journalism is a pillar of any good democracy

https://globalnews.ca/news/3910790/vancouver-onni-rentals/

Sadly, sometimes our media can help fuel this confusion when articles are poorly worded. Someone that isn't fully informed could read that story and walk away thinking that the tower is fully rental, and that the waiver problem is ongoing. With stories like this, its no wonder there's a false perception that Downtown's condo's are all sitting empty... Yet for some reason the schoolyards are full; go figure.

Conversely, it's not like Onni tries to dispel that perception much either. Given the recent history of LEVEL Furnished Living I don't know why Onni would continue to use that brand name. While the rates are listed as per month on Craigslist, the Level's website has them listed differently. With wording like "promotional rate of $180 per night," maybe Onni hasn't learned as much as one would have thought.

Stuido - 475sqft @ $3k:
https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/280...388-richards-street-vancouver-bc-v6b-3g6

1 Bedroom 580 sqft @ $5.4k:
https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/apa/d/full-size-kitchen-with-all/6426532960.html

2 Bedroom - 800 sqft @ $6.6k:
https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/apa/d/flat-screen-tv-high-speed/6425731616.html

2 Bedroom, Terrace - 900 – 1.1k sqft @ $180 per night (promotional rate)
https://stayinglevel.com/vancouver-richards/accommodations/townhome/

Level Furnished Living
https://stayinglevel.com/vancouver-richards/
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Onni has contributed to two daycare centres in this neighbourhood: Not bad for a company with bad rep.
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Onni has contributed to two daycare centres in this neighbourhood: Not bad for a company with bad rep.
That wasn't pure altruism, though.

When they build out a day care on-site as part of their project, it is a highly efficient way to minimize the out-of-pocket cost of their CAC (in-kind vs cash-in-lieu). They are already hiring architects, engineers, general contractors, etc., and building out a daycare as part of the project just becomes part of those subs' briefs, as opposed to a discrete project led by the City with new RFPs for everything and few, if any, efficiencies.

Furthermore, the materials cost associated with building out the shell (the operator would finish and furnish and bear the cost of accreditation/permitting) are minimal and the project is already buying concrete, rebar, etc., so it's really a tiny incremental cost. Finally, the amenity's FSR/FAR doesn't "count" towards the overall project's buildable area, if I'm not mistaken, making it "free" with respect to the project's overall FSR/FAR budget.

Day cares are a pretty good choice for an on-site amenity since, while highly regulated, they have comparatively few hard costs associated with them (minimal plumbing, electrical, and acoustic costs vs, say, non-market housing). They have predictable diurnal activity cycles with generally limited negative externalities affecting residents (they operate primarily while people are away from home at work and school). They also have minimal parking requirements due to low staff numbers and kids' well-established propensity to not own cars, though it can be complicated to develop functional short-term parking for drop-off/pick-up and vehicular circulation and dwell space is already at a premium in the areas where a developer like Onni is likely to be building a project that yields enough CACs to build out an on-site amenity like a day care.

An amenity like a day care also adds value to the building and the neighbourhood, potentially commanding a small premium on sale prices and rental rates. At the very least it won't hurt psf sale and lease prices vs what the market would consider less desirable amenities, like non-market housing.

Lastly, if the day care(s) are built off-site utilizing CAC money, the City will have done so using pooled cash-in-lieu CACs from several rezonings. Onni's, and all developer's, cash-in-lieu CAC dollars are allocated into several the amenity budgets (affordable housing, day cares, etc.) for that geographic area and while a project's rezoning CACs may be the final top-up needed to trigger development of a public amenity, there isn't necessarily the direct corollary that "project X paid for amenity Y" when it is not delivered on-site in-kind.
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Kinda looks like a mini Shangri-La from certain angles. Turned out well, especially considering their last project in the nieghbourhood (Mark).
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I only just noticed these -

The Charleson rental balcony glass is fritted - white on one section (and clear on its upper levels) and black on the brick section.
Looks better than the adjacent Peter Wall Tower.

BUT - the Charleson condo has clear balcony glass...

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I've driven by a few times and noticed the protective wrap peeling on the aluminum panels facing Pacific.
I swear the panels underneath look to be canary yellow.
(which might explain why the Wall Mansions next door abandoned yellow accents).
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Hopefully there's some retail along the midrises....or in the tower. If not that's very unfortunate. Not bad of a project.
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Hopefully there's some retail along the midrises....or in the tower. If not that's very unfortunate. Not bad of a project.
There is a grocery store going in along Richards in the wall building
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Hopefully there's some retail along the midrises....or in the tower. If not that's very unfortunate. Not bad of a project.
I think there is one small coffee shop between the midrise and the tower. As for the rest of the mid-rise, it's commercial space but used as a Daycare centre. They should have made the second floor as the Daycare centre and ground floor as regular retail. That would make this block of Richards more lively, and would complement future retail at the Vancouver House.
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