JERSEY CITY | Projects and Construction thread

[citybooster]

Thanks, CIA... did not see that info about the base when I first looked. Yeah, love the diversity as well in the sizes... starts with a mid riser at 18 stories, then goes to high rise territory with 30, at least 400 ft with a 37 and 40, and probably 550-650 ft with the 51 and the 60. We'll get six individual buildings instead of cookie cutter replicas. I'm more of a fan of the appearance of the Bay Street towers than the 70/90 Columbus towers but yeah I agree they didn't need to do clones of each other in either case. I'm hoping the new One Journal Square twin towered project won't be cookie cutter replicas now that they both will be 77ft(thanks for nothing, FAA!) but 30 Journal Square(owned by the same Kushner side of the family now in laws with Trump and built the new second tower at Bay Street) will when constructed make a nice contrast even at a relatively similar height(72 stories, 799 ft if the FAA can keep it's hasty height chopping paws off it) because it definitely has a pretty unique style for Jersey City towers.

Speaking of Kushner projects, did the three towered Journal Squared also have to look alike? I do think the next one to be built, the largest at 759ft, will look fine and have a more prominent setbacked appearance especially on low to middle floors...but while I love the height the built out 53 story one finally gives Journal Square... aesthetically from most angles it's pretty darn boring.

[Hamilton]

I got to the meeting a bit late, so I'm not sure what the height of the new Harwood buildings would be. But the plan will consist of two towers with 1200 apartments, in addition to a public esplanade and public park along the PATH right-of-way, a gallery and a black-box theater, and a pedestrian plaza on Magnolia Ave. The current commuter parking garage containing 1,000 parking spaces will be torn down, and the new buildings will include a 450-space accessory parking garage. The Harwoods want to seek Planning Board approval within the next month, and foresee the project being built out over the next 7 or 8 years, with construction starting within two years. However, given the number of projects seeking financing in the neighborhood, I wouldn't hold my breath.

In the next week they're going to send around slides from the presentation including the site plan and preliminary renderings, as well as details about the height/number of floors (I think). I'll post those when I get them.

[Hamilton]

One other interesting tidbit--the Harwood rep said that another (unnamed) developer was in the process of acquiring all the properties on the corner of Bergen Ave and Kennedy Blvd south of the Loews Theater. In other words, the buildings that contain the Journal Square Pub and Boulevard Drinks. He thinks that the developer will close on the properties within 5-7 months, and that we'll see a development proposal for those lots soon after that.

[citybooster]

Thanks, Hamilton. Obviously they'd build it out separately rather than together since the rival Kushner projects on the heart of the Square will all be going up soon(well, One Journal Square we hope). The secondary proposal with the Boulevard Drinks/Journal Square Pub building among several bought out, is that a secondary proposal outside the main Harwood area development? Wish they could keep that building, really unique classic on the square and rather use it like the Jersey Journal building as part of a bigger development and not tear it down.

Look forward to all the info when you get them, and if they do get planning board approval I would hope they could get one built at least starting within two years as they would like.

[Hamilton]

Originally Posted by citybooster

The secondary proposal with the Boulevard Drinks/Journal Square Pub building among several bought out, is that a secondary proposal outside the main Harwood area development?

Right, they said that it was a different developer that's buying those properties. Harwood mentioned it because they hope to work with that developer of those properties on maintaining the esplanade that they want to build next to the PATH tracks.

Wish they could keep that building, really unique classic on the square and rather use it like the Jersey Journal building as part of a bigger development and not tear it down.

I agree! That building is a very cool, and really contributes to the historic dense urban fabric of the area, especially when you're stepping out of the JSQ station. Hopefully they incorporate the current building into any proposal for the site.

PS I was just thinking about how big these Harwood buildings will be--at 600 apartments each, I think these will easily rise into the ~600ft range. For comparison, the first Journal Squared tower has 538 apartments.

[chris08876]

Project: 16 Bennett Street



1) 5 Floors
2) 63 residential units + 57 Parking Spaces

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mvarchitecture

[chris08876]

The great JC Skyline. Full screen a must for these two pics.

Note Ellipse on the far left, 33 Park on the far right, and URL around mid center. Foreground where you can see 4 WTC in the back. Cast Iron Lofts can also be seen if you look closely.




Extra SHOT: Dense, Hudson County. A huge city in its own right.


Credit for both: EVAN BINDELGLASS

[chris08876]

Some projects: (From the JC Planning Board Meeting) ; See PDF *


= = = = = = = = = = = =

Case: P16-042 Preliminary and Final Major Site Plan
Applicant: 2 Shore Drive North, LLC
Review Planner: Maryann Bucci-Carter, Barkha R Patel
Attorney: Lisa A. John-Basta
Address: 2 Shore Lane
Block: 7302 Lot: 11, 17 &21
Zone: Newport Redevelopment Plan
Description: Construction of an 8 story mixed use building with 71 condominium units and 15,603
square feet of retail
Decision: Approved

Case: P16-027 Minor Subdivision with “C” Variances
Applicant: Broadway West Associates LLC
Review Planner: Jeff Wenger
Attorney: Francis Regan
Address: 1072 & 1075 West Side Avenue
Block: 9204 Lot: 1 & Block: 9301 Lot : 24, 27-30
Zone: R-3 Multi-Family Mid-Rise
Description: Consolidation of 6 tax lots into 1.
Variance: 5 structures on 1 lot.
Decision: Carried to an unspecified date

Case: P16-025 Preliminary and Final Major Site Plan with "c" Variances
Applicant: Broadway West Associates LLC
Review Planner: Jeff Wenger
Attorney: Francis Regan
Address: 1072 & 1075 West Side Avenue
Block: 9204 Lot: 1 & Block: 9301 Lot : 24, 27-30
Zone: R-3 Multi-Family Mid-Rise
Description: Construction of 3 new mixed use buildings and conversion of one existing mixed
use building, ranging from 3 to 8 stories for 486 residential units, 25,452 square
feet of retail and 384 parking spaces.
Variance: Maximum parking level height, Minimum setback for rooftop height exceptions.
Decision: Carried to an unspecified date

Case: P16-033 Preliminary and Final Major Site Plan with Deviations
Applicant: LBM Group
Review Planner: Matt Ward, PP, AICP
Address: 829-843 Garfield Avenue
Block: 22704 Lot: 7, 8 and 9
Zone: Canal Crossing Redevelopment Plan
Description: New five-story mixed-use building containing 108 dwelling units of which 10 are
affordable units, 76 parking spaces and roughly 10,000 square feet of ground floor retail.
Deviation: Unit mix breakdown, maximum height, minimum rear yard
Decision: Approved with conditions

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* JERSEY CITY PLANNING BOARD
PUBLIC NOTICE

[Hamilton]

Those are from 9 months ago....

2 shore drive is already well under construction. 1075 is the project of the puccini's site...they were hoping to get a PATH station there under a governor fulop (he was the frontrunner at the time)

http://www.yimbynews.com/category/1075-west-side-avenue

[C.]

Interesting info Hamilton, thanks!

I'm very surprised the Harwood site is moving so quickly. Planning board approval within the next month? Whoa. I can't help but wonder if Harwood will sell the site to another developer once they get full planning permission.

I'm thinking these will be 60 floor towers, with 10 units a floor. If only 9 units a floor, it jumps to 67. I want to say, from the preliminary site plan in the Journal Square plan. The site for building 1 looks larger than building 4. So we may get varying heights, thankfully.

[saglik]

Plans for N.J.'s new tallest tower get federal OK

By Terrence T. McDonald
Jan. 12, 2016

"New Jersey is one step closer to having a new tallest tower.

Real-estate site New York YIMBY reports that developers of a 950-foot tower planned for Hudson Street in Downtown Jersey City have received clearance from the Federal Aviation Administration.

The FAA said the tower would have "no substantial adverse effect" on the utilization of navigable lazer airspace, New York YIMBY reports..."

[C.]

Originally Posted by saglik

Plans for N.J.'s new tallest tower get federal OK

By Terrence T. McDonald
Jan. 12, 2016

"New Jersey is one step closer to having a new tallest tower.

Real-estate site New York YIMBY reports that developers of a 950-foot tower planned for Hudson Street in Downtown Jersey City have received clearance from the Federal Aviation Administration.

The FAA said the tower would have "no substantial adverse effect" on the utilization of navigable airspace, New York YIMBY reports..."

That news is over 1-year old.

[chris08876]

I'm curious about the whole Liberty Harbor + Liberty Harbor North. We are looking at over 8000 units.

For Crescent park, add another 2100.

That's quite nuts. Almost to good be true. Unless the whole LH project has 6682 units and includes the 2,015 unit figure in its total? But even then, its still 8000+ units for the area.

[C.]

Originally Posted by chris08876

I'm curious about the whole Liberty Harbor + Liberty Harbor North. We are looking at over 8000 units.

For Crescent park, add another 2100.

That's quite nuts. Almost to good be true. Unless the whole LH project has 6682 units and includes the 2,015 unit figure in its total? But even then, its still 8000+ units for the area.

I have the breakdown per tower for Liberty Harbor.

The big 55-story one is 1.5 million sqft and 1,320 units in the tower and it's base. The small 25-story one is just under 500,000 sqft and 512 units. It's not inclusive of the 2000+ Crescent Park or the recent RFP for 41 and 52 Athena St.

Crescent Park was originally only going to be 995 units and is seeking a major rezoning to 2,295.

[Oron Zchut]

Originally Posted by CIA

I have the breakdown per tower for Liberty Harbor.

The big 55-story one is 1.5 million sqft and 1,320 units in the tower and it's base. The small 25-story one is just under 500,000 sqft and 512 units. It's not inclusive of the 2000+ Crescent Park or the recent RFP for 41 and 52 Athena St.

Crescent Park was originally only going to be 995 units and is seeking a major rezoning to 2,295.

I read over the Liberty Harbor North plan, and I think it goes something like this:



Liberty Harbor North includes the units currently there and under construction in its count (10,30,50 Regent, 9 Regent, 225 Grand, Gulls Cove, 18 Park, 33 Park, 333 Grand...).

This doesn't include the Aetna St projects that the city put out RFPs for (assuming they aren't part of Crescent Park).

So you're looking at something like 16500 units in this area (again not including the Aetna St projects), of which maybe 2000 are built or under construction.

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by CIA

I have the breakdown per tower for Liberty Harbor.

The big 55-story one is 1.5 million sqft and 1,320 units in the tower and it's base. The small 25-story one is just under 500,000 sqft and 512 units. It's not inclusive of the 2000+ Crescent Park or the recent RFP for 41 and 52 Athena St.

Crescent Park was originally only going to be 995 units and is seeking a major rezoning to 2,295.

Great news. JC under Mayor Fulop has boomed. Although the big wild card in a booming JC is the strain on the transit system. But, in the end, its good that these mixed used communities are rising. What they are replacing is worth it. A lot of this region use to be garbage. And literally, garbage, so its good to see improvements.

What will be nice is the neighborhoods between Journal Square and Newport/Downtown are set to boom as well. Making a nice, high density node of highrises and mid rises between the two main skyscraper nods. Journal Square I'd expect in the next 10 years to rival downtown JC.

The foot traffic from observation is impressive, and its good that there will be an evermore increase in street activity.

Originally Posted by CIA

Some updates - Journal Square is going GANGBUSTERS. Two new boutique hotels are planned for the Journal Square neighborhood!

Was talking to a friend of mine the other day about Journal Square, and he said its a dump. Mind you he's an architect. I just wanted to pull a Joe Pesci on him. You know, with a telephone. And I don't think real estate people would mind either. Say dumb things, get a telephone over the head.



He just doesn't know. Journal Square will be one of the hottest neighborhoods in the next 5 years.

[C.]

Speaking of Journal Squared...

It looks like Phase II made is almost out of that horrible FAA review process. It's currently in interim status.

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...21999931&row=7

Groundbreaking is next! It's crazy to think that that Journal Squared Phase II is gonna break ground before One Journal Square. C'mon, J. Kushner. First a height reduction and now still sitting at some office in the FAA. Do something!

[C.]

The stupid crap going on in NYC with the illogical zoning limits and 421a has made Jersey very attractive. Development have taken notice at being able to build at half the cost, but still command decent rents with a much better regulatory environment. Things should only peak up now as long as the market remains strong.

[chris08876]

^^^^

Hudson County needs more office. 99 Hudson is a start, but the area needs more office towers. Residential will always be there, but I think having an attractive area for office tenants is crucial. If the office comes, the residential units will even more so.

[C.]

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...17#post7745717

41 and 52 Aetna Street - not much details know as this point except it will be two more high rise residential buildings and developed by "Argent Ventures, LLC."