HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > United States > Texas & Southcentral > Austin


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #3361  
Old Posted Aug 16, 2025, 8:50 PM
zx14 zx14 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 306
Its just the lower elevation and the slanted roof being visible as the top. Will the higher parapet be noticeable is my question. By the way wouldn't a central located 1200 foot tall observation tower look great!!! Maybe Elon could build one for pocket change to him lol
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3362  
Old Posted Aug 16, 2025, 9:57 PM
The ATX's Avatar
The ATX The ATX is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Right here, right now
Posts: 12,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by IluvATX View Post
1474-1034= answer
It's maff for the win!

Folks also seemed to have missed my post from three-ish weeks ago showing where the FAA got it's 1,034' height: Corner D: 1489-455=1034.

Notice that there is an 11' difference in elevation on what they determined for the four corners of the building. It's all about where to start counting the height.


__________________
Follow The ATX on X:
https://x.com/TheATX1

Things will be great when you're downtown.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3363  
Old Posted Aug 17, 2025, 1:25 PM
enragedcamel enragedcamel is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 520
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwmiv View Post
I fixed this for you.

Consider learning proper English if you want people to take your arguments seriously.
I don't think potshots like this are necessary. You should engage people on the merits of their arguments or lack thereof. There's no need to attack someone on their improper grammar or punctuation. This is, after all, the Internet. Not only that, not everyone here is a native speaker.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3364  
Old Posted Aug 17, 2025, 9:04 PM
wwmiv wwmiv is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Austin -> San Antonio -> Columbia -> San Antonio -> Chicago -> Austin -> Denver -> Austin
Posts: 5,710
Quote:
Originally Posted by enragedcamel View Post
I don't think potshots like this are necessary. You should engage people on the merits of their arguments or lack thereof. There's no need to attack someone on their improper grammar or punctuation. This is, after all, the Internet. Not only that, not everyone here is a native speaker.
Disagree. We should be, as a society, encouraging people to learn proper English and quit making liberal excuses for people.

… and the user’s argument was bunk on the merits anyway, so why bother defending them?
__________________
Houston: 2.4m (+3.9%) + MSA suburbs: 5.4m (+12%) + CSA exurbs: 200k (+5%)
Dallas: 1.3m (+2%) / FtW: 1.0m (+10%) + suburbs: 6.4m (9%) + exurbs: 566k (+9%)
San Antonio: 1.5m (+6%) + MSA suburbs: 1.2m (+10%) + CSA exurbs: 82k (+3%)
Austin: 994k (+3%) + MSA suburbs: 1.6m (+18%)
Texas (whole): 31.29m (+7%) / Texas (balance): 8.6m (+3%)
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3365  
Old Posted Aug 18, 2025, 1:33 PM
drummer drummer is offline
World Traveler
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Austin metro area
Posts: 4,733
Quote:
Originally Posted by The ATX View Post
It's maff for the win!

Folks also seemed to have missed my post from three-ish weeks ago showing where the FAA got it's 1,034' height: Corner D: 1489-455=1034.

Notice that there is an 11' difference in elevation on what they determined for the four corners of the building. It's all about where to start counting the height.


Thanks ATX. I was going to lose a lot of sleep without us being able to settle this...
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3366  
Old Posted Aug 18, 2025, 2:35 PM
The ATX's Avatar
The ATX The ATX is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Right here, right now
Posts: 12,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by drummer View Post
Thanks ATX. I was going to lose a lot of sleep without us being able to settle this...
Ha. But after almost five years, I doubt it.
__________________
Follow The ATX on X:
https://x.com/TheATX1

Things will be great when you're downtown.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3367  
Old Posted Aug 18, 2025, 4:26 PM
drummer drummer is offline
World Traveler
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Austin metro area
Posts: 4,733
Quote:
Originally Posted by The ATX View Post
Ha. But after almost five years, I doubt it.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3368  
Old Posted Aug 18, 2025, 6:01 PM
Lobotomizer's Avatar
Lobotomizer Lobotomizer is offline
Frontal Lobe Technician
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 485
Quote:
Originally Posted by The ATX View Post
Ha. But after almost five years, I doubt it.
Once we get to the next page I will demand you explain to me how the height of this building has been calculated, not because I don't know, but for the lulz
__________________
Aw, snap! You just got Lobotomized!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3369  
Old Posted Aug 18, 2025, 10:53 PM
atx30 atx30 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2025
Posts: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by The ATX View Post
It's maff for the win!

Folks also seemed to have missed my post from three-ish weeks ago showing where the FAA got it's 1,034' height: Corner D: 1489-455=1034.

Notice that there is an 11' difference in elevation on what they determined for the four corners of the building. It's all about where to start counting the height.


I know we've had these FAA filings out for a while, so I find it fairly confusing that the building developers:

1. Announced it was topped out -how can it be topped out when a roof structure/parapet remains that without a doubt adds height,

AND

2. Announced it at 1025 feet.

Did someone in the marketing team drop the ball? I can see how it would be 1025 feet to the top of the tallest beam.. but still, why the top-out announcement and the incorrect height?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3370  
Old Posted Aug 19, 2025, 1:54 AM
davidtexan's Avatar
davidtexan davidtexan is offline
David
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 129




Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3371  
Old Posted Aug 19, 2025, 6:02 AM
KevinFromTexas's Avatar
KevinFromTexas KevinFromTexas is offline
Meh
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Austin,TX<-->Dripping Springs,TX<-->Birmingham, AL<-->Warm Springs,GA
Posts: 57,205
Quote:
Originally Posted by The ATX View Post
It's maff for the win!

Folks also seemed to have missed my post from three-ish weeks ago showing where the FAA got it's 1,034' height: Corner D: 1489-455=1034.

Notice that there is an 11' difference in elevation on what they determined for the four corners of the building. It's all about where to start counting the height.

Ah, there it is. An actual lowest elevation to measure from for all the points on the buildimg... Thanks, dude.
__________________
My girlfriend has a poodle named Kevin.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3372  
Old Posted Aug 19, 2025, 8:55 PM
Urbannizer's Avatar
Urbannizer Urbannizer is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, TX / Portland,OR / Chicago, IL
Posts: 14,002
__________________
HAIF
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3373  
Old Posted Aug 20, 2025, 4:17 PM
drummer drummer is offline
World Traveler
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Austin metro area
Posts: 4,733
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urbannizer View Post
Crazy to see tiny little Frost in this on the right side. What a change. While we don't have an enormous number of architectural gems, we do have some interesting shapes that, especially in silhouette, break up the rectangular boxes. Waterline certainly does this as well - it's an interesting building overall. Certainly need more, but I'm practicing gratitude...
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3374  
Old Posted Aug 20, 2025, 4:37 PM
The ATX's Avatar
The ATX The ATX is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Right here, right now
Posts: 12,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by atx30 View Post
I know we've had these FAA filings out for a while, so I find it fairly confusing that the building developers:

1. Announced it was topped out -how can it be topped out when a roof structure/parapet remains that without a doubt adds height,

AND

2. Announced it at 1025 feet.

Did someone in the marketing team drop the ball? I can see how it would be 1025 feet to the top of the tallest beam.. but still, why the top-out announcement and the incorrect height?
"Official top outs" are when the last structural beam is placed - not crown, mechanical or spire construction. So whenever a building officially tops out, it's not going to be at it's final official height.

As the ongoing height arguments show, there are multiple ways to count a buildin'tg height. Sometimes average elevations across the site are used as opposed to a single low point.
__________________
Follow The ATX on X:
https://x.com/TheATX1

Things will be great when you're downtown.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3375  
Old Posted Aug 20, 2025, 6:02 PM
ahealy's Avatar
ahealy ahealy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Antonio / Austin
Posts: 2,794
SO, I'm not really sure what I'm asking for, but is there a way you can compare diagrams of towers on here? I really wanna compare LA's US Bank to Waterline considering Waterline is a bit taller.

My brain breaks though when I look at Waterline because it just doesn't seem taller than the US Bank. I know it's the giant podium and subway tile facade, etc. etc.

If anyone is savvy with quick mock ups that factor in elevation and whatnot you'll be my hero.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3376  
Old Posted Aug 20, 2025, 8:18 PM
ILUVSAT's Avatar
ILUVSAT ILUVSAT is offline
May the Schwartz be w/ U!
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Nomadic
Posts: 1,911
Quote:
Originally Posted by The ATX View Post
...there are multiple ways to count a buildin'tg height. Sometimes average elevations across the site are used as opposed to a single low point.
The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH) is internationally recognized as the keeper of the "official" world's tallest list. However, I do not know from where they obtain their data.

They define the height of a building as the measurement from the level of the lowest, open-air, pedestrian entrance to its architectural apex.

Currently, CTBUH lists Waterline at 1021'. If the developer announced the Top-Out height of 1025' and you add 9' of crown (sloped roofline) to get to where the FAA has the tower (1034') - I guess there is still some discrepancy (old information being disseminated) amongst the international community.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3377  
Old Posted Aug 21, 2025, 4:20 PM
zx14 zx14 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 306
What is the hold up with the roof seems like they haven't done much at all over the last month
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3378  
Old Posted Aug 21, 2025, 10:11 PM
Lobotomizer's Avatar
Lobotomizer Lobotomizer is offline
Frontal Lobe Technician
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 485
Quote:
Originally Posted by zx14 View Post
What is the hold up with the roof seems like they haven't done much at all over the last month
I just got off the phone with the GC. Since you've brought light to their publicity stunt, and now everyone knows Waterline is actually only like 900 feet tall they've cancelled the project.

Thanks a lot, man.
__________________
Aw, snap! You just got Lobotomized!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3379  
Old Posted Aug 23, 2025, 10:54 AM
rfiordie rfiordie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by zx14 View Post
What is the hold up with the roof seems like they haven't done much at all over the last month
It’s a primarily a pre fab piece going up top.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3380  
Old Posted Aug 23, 2025, 2:51 PM
zx14 zx14 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 306
will it be visable lit up to show the true height?
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > United States > Texas & Southcentral > Austin
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 5:51 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.