HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Atlantic Provinces


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #3361  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 9:13 PM
Dmajackson's Avatar
Dmajackson Dmajackson is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: B3K Halifax, NS
Posts: 9,511
Quote:
Originally Posted by stu_pendousmat2 View Post
We could call it the Maritime Brewers...A regional name which makes sense as the 3 main cities all have large breweries now...SJ with Moosehead/Alpine...Hali with Keiths...and us with Molson/Coors and Pumphouse.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mylesmalley View Post
Keith's inferior?!
For shame, good sir. For shame!
I wouldn't suggest saying Keith's is "inferior" anywheres in NS

Halifax also has Oland which in additions to their own beer make the Maritimes supply of Labatt

I'm not complaining or anything but....WHY DO WE HAVE SO MANY BREWERIES?!?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3362  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 9:25 PM
gehrhardt's Avatar
gehrhardt gehrhardt is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dartmouth, NS
Posts: 498
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bedford_DJ View Post
I wouldn't suggest saying Keith's is "inferior" anywheres in NS

Halifax also has Oland which in additions to their own beer make the Maritimes supply of Labatt

I'm not complaining or anything but....WHY DO WE HAVE SO MANY BREWERIES?!?
To put it simply, "BEER GOOD".

Actually, we don't really have a lot of breweries around here. Large ones, maybe, but if you're ever in Maine, check out the list of craft breweries there. Even little Bar Harbor has at least 3 (that I know of). Two of those bottle and sell in stores outside of the state too.

In my opinion, we need more!

BTW, isn't there a Sleeman's brewery in Dartmouth too?

This is turning into the Maritime beer thread.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3363  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 9:28 PM
mylesmalley's Avatar
mylesmalley mylesmalley is offline
Moderator / Supervillain
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Moncton, NB
Posts: 4,078
Quote:
Originally Posted by gehrhardt View Post
To put it simply, "BEER GOOD".

Actually, we don't really have a lot of breweries around here. Large ones, maybe, but if you're ever in Maine, check out the list of craft breweries there. Even little Bar Harbor has at least 3 (that I know of). Two of those bottle and sell in stores outside of the state too.

In my opinion, we need more!

BTW, isn't there a Sleeman's brewery in Dartmouth too?

This is turning into the Maritime beer thread.

Ahh, beer. The cause of, and solution to all of life's problems.
__________________
"When you go home tonight, there's gonna be another story on your house! "
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3364  
Old Posted Nov 19, 2008, 9:32 PM
Dmajackson's Avatar
Dmajackson Dmajackson is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: B3K Halifax, NS
Posts: 9,511
^Homer Simpson quote (from when he sees Duffman with Marge on their couch):

"The reason for my children with the mother of my children?!"
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3365  
Old Posted Nov 20, 2008, 2:58 AM
mmmatt's Avatar
mmmatt mmmatt is offline
Our Tide is Rising
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,752
Color for the Page

Trying to keep this up

Funny little stone building (on mountain)

credit: fa_valdez on photobucket

Main st. c. 1930 (notice tram rail line)

credit: provincial archives

Main st. c. 1930 (notice "subway" location on the right to gain bearings) Im assuming the building in the foreground is the current location of Brunswick News)

credit: provincial archives

Skyline at night

credit: jeromenhl on photobucket
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3366  
Old Posted Nov 20, 2008, 3:18 AM
Haliguy's Avatar
Haliguy Haliguy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Halifax
Posts: 1,330
Quote:
Originally Posted by gehrhardt View Post
To put it simply, "BEER GOOD".

Actually, we don't really have a lot of breweries around here. Large ones, maybe, but if you're ever in Maine, check out the list of craft breweries there. Even little Bar Harbor has at least 3 (that I know of). Two of those bottle and sell in stores outside of the state too.

In my opinion, we need more!

BTW, isn't there a Sleeman's brewery in Dartmouth too?

This is turning into the Maritime beer thread.
Yes there is a Sleeman's brewery in Burnside.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3367  
Old Posted Nov 20, 2008, 2:34 PM
mmmatt's Avatar
mmmatt mmmatt is offline
Our Tide is Rising
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,752
Bonus pics for you guys from last night.

On the subject of beer...


Maybe printing something interesting today??
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3368  
Old Posted Nov 20, 2008, 2:36 PM
mylesmalley's Avatar
mylesmalley mylesmalley is offline
Moderator / Supervillain
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Moncton, NB
Posts: 4,078
I think we've started something. The Canada boards are talking about beer too haha
__________________
"When you go home tonight, there's gonna be another story on your house! "
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3369  
Old Posted Nov 20, 2008, 8:51 PM
Dmajackson's Avatar
Dmajackson Dmajackson is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: B3K Halifax, NS
Posts: 9,511
Quote:
Originally Posted by mylesmalley View Post
I think we've started something. The Canada boards are talking about beer too haha
You can blame that one on me
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3370  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 3:27 PM
acrew79 acrew79 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Moncton NB
Posts: 52
New sketches of planned courthouse released in wake of preliminary designs criticized last month


http://timestranscript.canadaeast.co...article/488271
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3371  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 3:31 PM
mylesmalley's Avatar
mylesmalley mylesmalley is offline
Moderator / Supervillain
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Moncton, NB
Posts: 4,078
New courthouse no 'box'
Published Friday November 21st, 2008


New sketches of planned courthouse released in wake of preliminary designs criticized last month
A1
By Brent Mazerolle
Times & Transcript Staff

Sometimes, it seems, it's all a matter of perspective. Having the latest drawings helps too.



Architect's illustration
This is the final design for the Moncton justice centre. It features a five-storey glass atrium at the apex of its two wings, which replaces a circular feature prominent in earlier designs.
Moncton East MLA Chris Collins wants Metro Moncton residents to know their new downtown courthouse, which will serve as the justice centre for southeastern New Brunswick, is not the square box shown to the news media last month.

Instead, in basic shape and orientation at least, it will bear far more similarity to the design on the sign that has been advertising the future site of the courthouse at Assomption and Westmorland for the past three years.

The green glass has been traded in for a sturdier looking and probably more timeless sandstone brick, but the south facing plaza and L-shape complex of two wings have been maintained. For architectural interests, the final design includes a five-storey high glass atrium at the apex of the two wings, replacing a circular feature prominent in earlier designs.

Collins said yesterday the flat perspective showing the west view of the building that was published in the Times & Transcript last month made it appear as though the public plaza had disappeared from the final design. The perspective also made it appear as if the "two-wing" design had been replaced by a basic rectangular box.

Compounding the problem, the sketch provided to the media at the time was, in fact, one of many revisions and not the ultimate design.

The MLA dropped by the Times & Transcript's offices yesterday to set the record straight and hoped to reassure the public with the final sketches. There had been criticism in late October when Supply & Services Minister Jack Keir announced that Dartmouth's CitiGroup Properties has been chosen to build the $48-million structure, not so much because of anything in the building's content, but because of its style.

The price tag has grown by $20 million since the previous Conservative provincial government first turned the sod at the corner of Assomption Boulevard and Westmorland Street back in 2005, but Collins said the new design includes significant changes that a number of stakeholders believed were missing from the preliminary designs three years ago. Perhaps the most significant change is the addition of secure underground parking for judges and other court officials, a particularly challenging bit of engineering on the site, which is on the Petitcodiac flood plain and has a high water table.

Collins said the elevation of the building in the final design calls for it to be above the high water mark set by the Saxby Gale in 1869, including the entrance to the underground parking. The garage itself will be waterproof.

For the sake of better security than is offered by the city's law courts today, which are just one tenant in a mixed use building, there are a number of features in triplicate in the design of the new justice centre. For instance, judges will travel in one elevator, the public in another and prisoners in a third. There are also separate corridors and other design features to keep some of the various users of the courts separated from each other.

The new design also ups the number of courtrooms from the 13 announced in 2005 to 15.

The building will take up pretty much all of the land available and so one wing has risen to four storeys and the other to five storey from the originally planned three. With the underground garage included, the building will now boast six levels.

"The footprint is so big we'll be going to the city for some variances," Collins said.

Court staff, sheriff services, victim services, probation services and Crown prosecutors will all find a home within the complex.

It will feature a law library and will offer 188 parking spaces, including the 84-stall parking garage. Parking, along with security, had been identified as a major concern after the initial design and site were announced in 2005.

"We've got most of the concerns addressed in this design. Now it's the time to move," Collins said. "The good news in this is something is getting done."
__________________
"When you go home tonight, there's gonna be another story on your house! "
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3372  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 3:32 PM
mylesmalley's Avatar
mylesmalley mylesmalley is offline
Moderator / Supervillain
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Moncton, NB
Posts: 4,078
Quote:
Originally Posted by acrew79 View Post
New sketches of planned courthouse released in wake of preliminary designs criticized last month


http://timestranscript.canadaeast.co...article/488271
Sorry. Guess you beat me to it :p
__________________
"When you go home tonight, there's gonna be another story on your house! "
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3373  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 3:45 PM
mylesmalley's Avatar
mylesmalley mylesmalley is offline
Moderator / Supervillain
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Moncton, NB
Posts: 4,078
But no timeline offered on when project will move forward
A8
By Mary Moszynski
Times & Transcript Staff

FREDERICTON - Public Safety Minister John Foran says improvements to the Moncton jail remain a priority, but no timeline for when the facility will be upgraded or replaced exists.

The Public Safety Department has completed a review of the province's correctional facilities. Government will not release the review, but Foran said it looked at everything from over-crowding to the possible need for a new youth facility.

"You know, and I know, that certainly Moncton is a priority," he said yesterday.

The Moncton Detention Centre is overcrowded.

In 2005, the jury in a coroner's inquest into the death of a prisoner at the centre called for a new jail as its main recommendation.

When asked if Moncton will be getting a new jail, Foran replied: "I hope so, someday."

The former Conservative government committed to building a new Moncton jail, doubling its capacity to 200 spaces, and earmarked $500,000 to get the project started.

Since the 2006 election, the Liberal government hasn't made any firm commitments to moving the project forward. Instead, Foran has repeatedly said the department is continuing to look at the situation.

"What we're developing right now is a multi-year plan for our correctional system," he said. "We looked at the number of people, we looked at how that fluctuates and the patterns over the past number of years and we looked at the youth centre."

Foran said the province will also consider the need for a facility that would only house females.

More details should be included in the capital budget, expected sometime next year, said Foran.

_____________________________________
From what I've heard, we definitely need an improved jail. From reading this article, we might end up with three! (men/women/young offenders). Nobody likes to see more jails springing up, but that would mean considerable investment and probably job creation in the city. It's also nice to know that it would appear that this increased demand isn't because of a higher crime rate, but because of the rate at which the region is growing.
__________________
"When you go home tonight, there's gonna be another story on your house! "
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3374  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 3:59 PM
gehrhardt's Avatar
gehrhardt gehrhardt is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dartmouth, NS
Posts: 498
The picture of the justice complex in the print edition of the T&T is a much better view. I'll keep looking and see if it's available somewhere else.

It certainly looks better than the original render, but those ugly and seemingly random small windows flank the ends of both wings. It turns me off right away.

I'm glad they've kept the large "courtyard" area in the front, but overall, I think the building is pretty forgettable. Not a landmark building by any means.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3375  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 4:32 PM
mmmatt's Avatar
mmmatt mmmatt is offline
Our Tide is Rising
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,752
Awesome!

I was very happy when I picked up the paper and saw that render today big on the front page. Looks very good indeed.

However as gehrhardt stated the image on the actual print version of the paper looks much better...the web is much smaller and cuts off the sides.

My only remaining beef at this point is the very small strips of windows to the left of the atrium...I would have rathered they kept the same window design of the opposite side.

Oh well, beggars cant be choosers...BIG improvement on the 2D drawing we had before though. Perhaps someone can scan the front page of the paper for us?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3376  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 4:55 PM
David_99's Avatar
David_99 David_99 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 807
Quote:
Originally Posted by stu_pendousmat2 View Post
My only remaining beef at this point is the very small strips of windows to the left of the atrium...I would have rathered they kept the same window design of the opposite side.
Maybe that's the holding cells
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3377  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 5:30 PM
mmmatt's Avatar
mmmatt mmmatt is offline
Our Tide is Rising
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,752
Quote:
Originally Posted by David_99 View Post
Maybe that's the holding cells
haha! Looks like thats what it is...poor people who have to work there with a little sliver of a window.

But the rest of the building looks much better than the old 2005 render. Much more massive looking too.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3378  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 5:46 PM
JimiThing's Avatar
JimiThing JimiThing is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Moncton, NB
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by stu_pendousmat2 View Post
haha! Looks like thats what it is...poor people who have to work there with a little sliver of a window.

But the rest of the building looks much better than the old 2005 render. Much more massive looking too.
I had a chance to get a look at the Preliminary plans. And if it didn't change the prisoner & judge hallways surround the perimeter of the building. Leading from the elevators to the courtrooms.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3379  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 5:51 PM
benvui's Avatar
benvui benvui is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shediac
Posts: 377
Hey everyone, I'm new here but I've been reading the thread for quite some time. I'm just wondering if anyone else picked up on the comments made by CFL commissioner Mark Cohon last night? Seems they are looking at having a regular season game at the new UdeM stadium

"Cohon also said the CFL is looking into staging regular-season games in Moncton, where a new track-and-field facility is scheduled for completion in 2010."

CBC article
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3380  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 5:55 PM
mmmatt's Avatar
mmmatt mmmatt is offline
Our Tide is Rising
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,752
Quote:
Originally Posted by benvui View Post
games
Welcome to the forum benvui!

games?!

sweet!

So we are still on the radar at least, that's good to know
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Atlantic Provinces
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 9:51 PM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.