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mat97 · #**33541** Posted **Oct 13, 2013, 9:00 AM**

Are they going to cover the beams of the communication rings with something or will remain pure steel?

Guiltyspark · #**33542** Posted **Oct 13, 2013, 10:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by MadGnome

Not that I give a rat's ass what the CTBUH says, and I know I've said a stick is a stick, but the more I look at that ring and mast the more I think there's no way you can deny they're architectural components of the building.

Weird cause I do deny it. Oh well. Everyone has an opinion.

Submariner · #**33543** Posted **Oct 13, 2013, 4:02 PM**

What makes this architecturally different from the spire on say, the BofA building?

Guiltyspark · #**33544** Posted **Oct 13, 2013, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Submariner

What makes this architecturally different from the spire on say, the BofA building?

The spire on BofA does not hold communication equipment and thus was designed with nothing in mind but how it looks. This is designed to hold communication equipment and looks like it.

People seem to get engineering confused with architectural design. Height is height, that is the engineering element. An antenna or mast can be very robust, thick, prominent, what have you. That does not make it an architectural element. What you see now is the functional skeleton of what would have been a true spire if it had remained covered by an architectural element. Instead, they merely deleted the architectural elements (except for the very tip which now looks stuck on since it does not flow into anything like it was supposed to.

YankeesfaninUT · #**33545** Posted **Oct 13, 2013, 7:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Guiltyspark

The spire on BofA does not hold communication equipment and thus was designed with nothing in mind but how it looks. This is designed to hold communication equipment and looks like it.

People seem to get engineering confused with architectural design. Height is height, that is the engineering element. An antenna or mast can be very robust, thick, prominent, what have you. That does not make it an architectural element. What you see now is the functional skeleton of what would have been a true spire if it had remained covered by an architectural element. Instead, they merely deleted the architectural elements (except for the very tip which now looks stuck on since it does not flow into anything like it was supposed to.

Technically you can look at this two ways. The Radome, while beautiful, really isn't a true architectural element. It is used everyday on functional radar domes. That being said one could argue that the radome shouldn't count either. Now to your argument that the current spire doesn't flow from top to bottom. Who says it has to. The grand thing about architecture is that it can be unique. This spire is very unique and in my humble opinion, I think it works for the building. And I don't believe the beacon looks stuck. It's made of metal. The rest of the spire is made of metal. Now if the beacon was made out of radome or something else then I could see your point, but it's not. The more I look at this spire the more I realize it was meant to be.

hunser · #**33546** Posted **Oct 13, 2013, 10:05 PM**

New York - Skyline by Daxis, on Flickr

Empire state of mind · #**33547** Posted **Oct 14, 2013, 3:13 AM**

Epic!

Roadcruiser1 · #**33548** Posted **Oct 14, 2013, 3:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by Silverfox

Did they change the glass on the WFC buildings recently? It looks different in that picture.

No.

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Originally Posted by mat97

Are they going to cover the beams of the communication rings with something or will remain pure steel?

Not really but they will put the dishes up there over time. It won't look the way it does now..........

NYguy · #**33549** Posted **Oct 14, 2013, 2:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by MadGnome

Not that I give a rat's ass what the CTBUH says, and I know I've said a stick is a stick, but the more I look at that ring and mast the more I think there's no way you can deny they're architectural components of the building.

To look at it that way makes it even worse.

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Originally Posted by YankeesfaninUT

The Radome, while beautiful, really isn't a true architectural element. It is used everyday on functional radar domes.

I don't know why you guys aren't getting this, but I'll keep repeating it. The radome itself wasn't the architectural element, it's what the architectural element was composed of.
There was a very specific design for the spire, in fact there were a few. What you see exposed now was never meant to be, nor is it an architectural element of design.

( October 13, 2013 )

atbglenn · #**33550** Posted **Oct 14, 2013, 4:15 PM**

I think the spire looks great, especially when illuminated at night. But what the hell do I know? I'm just your normal everyday schmuck who's lived in New York his whole life, 61 years.....

hunser · #**33551** Posted **Oct 14, 2013, 5:41 PM**

WTC dawn 06 18 13 01 by bonnarphoto, on Flickr

North Bergen & Guttenberg (NJ), the Hudson River, and Manhattan by Jason Pierce Photography, on Flickr

King DenCity · #**33552** Posted **Oct 14, 2013, 6:54 PM**

Beautiful mountains of buildings!

superMike · #**33553** Posted **Oct 14, 2013, 7:42 PM**

The second pic is amazing Hunser !

QUEENSNYMAN · #**33554** Posted **Oct 14, 2013, 8:35 PM**

Hey everyone my latest video from today, hope ya like I took the Seastreak Ferry from Rockaway this morning, great shots of One World Trade!

By: QUEENSNY121

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqm_b...p_YrtzeCuNTf5A

nyc7 · #**33555** Posted **Oct 15, 2013, 1:00 AM**

From yesterday..
Pics can't describe how massive this thing is in person

Base cladding looks just about done on the rear, and a quarter of the way there on the side with the elevator

germancruiser · #**33556** Posted **Oct 15, 2013, 5:13 AM**

What wonderful pictures thank you all for shareing with us. A great building and still looking at is still something one has to get used to.

drumz0rz · #**33557** Posted **Oct 15, 2013, 1:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by hunser

bonnarphoto

Great photo but I think his copyright is a bit off...

NewYorque · #**33558** Posted **Oct 15, 2013, 6:28 PM**

I just downloaded the next version of Google Earth (recent update, 3D cities load faster)

But sadly the WTC 3D buildings aren't updated. 1WTC looks like in 2012, and so does 4WTC. How can I change that ?
Because in my former Google Earth version, 1WTC and 4WTC were updated (4WTC covered by glass, and 1WTC with an antenna).
I can't even click on the building, on the new Google Earth

Someone knows how to fix it?

Thanks

marvelfannumber1 · #**33559** Posted **Oct 15, 2013, 8:22 PM**

Just click on the button that shows older satelitte images and you should be getting all the old models again.

Yankee fan for life · #**33560** Posted **Oct 15, 2013, 11:41 PM**

quick clip of 1 wtc on the Q train going over the Manhattan bridge sorry of the shakiness i am on the train.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkVroTqNXY0