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Old Posted Aug 18, 2023, 2:45 PM
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This is one of the best summaries of the top 20 largest cities and metropolitan areas I have seen.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ran...by-population/
This is a great summary of a frustratingly difficult topic given the different definitions in different countries. To be clear, the administrative definition is also tough in China specifically - I lived there for many years and opened a business there. I had to deal with the various administrative districts as a part of the process.

Chongqing is a prime example. While its "administrative district" is the size of Austria, so they say, that is because the district is essentially on par with the provinces. The same is true for Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai, and a few others, I believe. In a typical city (i.e., not one of these mega mega-cities), let's use the example of the tiny village of Nanjing (pop. ~8 million or ~11 million depending on who you believe). Nanjing is in a province (省) - specifically Jiangsu - but it is a prefecture (市). That prefecture includes several counties (县) and development zones/districts (区), which are usually, essentially, at the same level as county, and within those you may have various villages/townships (乡), etc. I always considered the development zones/districts as suburbs to the downtown core given that most of these were fairly developed as well. Counties often included a swath of rural areas.

One of the cities we lived in for many years had a prefecture level population of 1.3 million (small town by China standards), but that included four counties and a special district (five unique zones). The main urban area of what we would call a city was probably around 600K-700K at the time - likely larger now because they were experiencing some significant growth and were getting HSR and major highway connectivity.

That said, if we were to consider metropolitan areas in the U.S., often made up of several cities and counties, that might be a fair comparison. Any way you shake it, Chinese cities will win by population nearly every time. But the definitions make it uber complicated.

In that chart, the Urban Area and Metropolitan lists seem more reasonable to me...but of course, that's just, like, my opinion, man.

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Old Posted Aug 18, 2023, 3:15 PM
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2023, 3:42 PM
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I'm sorry...but, you're just now noticing? Even if you have not ventured out here recently - local media have been talking about that fact for quite a while now.

The current level of the lake is the 5th lowest on record (just under 634' AMSL). The last time the lake was full (681' AMSL) was in June 2019.
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AUS-SAT REGION (MSAs/13 counties): 5,313,643 +9.75% - '20-'24 | *SRC: US Census*
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When the lake is this low LCRA needs to take advantage by removing land islands showing above the water line. This would help make the lake hold a bit more water and make boating safer once it refills.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2023, 9:32 PM
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I see any potential project like that as having dire consequences that folks aren't necessarily considering...one only needs to look to the Aral Sea as a prime example. China doesn't have a great track record with a lot of their regional projects like that either from an environmental or humanitarian standpoint, albeit they've done better than the USSR did. Time will tell, of course.
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I found a nautical map for Lake Travis and can move it around to see the depths of the other lakes too. I did not realize how shallow Lady Bird Lake is.

https://usa.fishermap.org/depth-map/lake-travis/
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Walter E Long Park Makeover

Here is an article that talks about the plans for a makeover of Walter E. Long Park. The plans include an observation tower and a ferris wheel. Does anyone here have any information on the plans for the observation tower and ferris wheel.
https://austin.towers.net/austins-fi...walter-e-long/
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Here is an article that talks about the plans for a makeover of Walter E. Long Park. The plans include an observation tower and a ferris wheel. Does anyone here have any information on the plans for the observation tower and ferris wheel.
https://austin.towers.net/austins-fi...walter-e-long/
As noted in that article, so far that’s just the “vision” plan, with no real commitment or guarantee it will happen that way.
So no, there’s no other information on those possible elements.
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Here is an article that talks about the plans for a makeover of Walter E. Long Park. The plans include an observation tower and a ferris wheel. Does anyone here have any information on the plans for the observation tower and ferris wheel.
https://austin.towers.net/austins-fi...walter-e-long/
Wow!! Those are incredible renderings!
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Wow!! Those are incredible renderings!
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Would a ferris wheel proposed at the site be allowed to rise to 900 feet tall. Such a wheel was proposed for San Antonio in 2017.
https://www.kens5.com/article/news/l.../273-495496314
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Would a ferris wheel proposed at the site be allowed to rise to 900 feet tall. Such a wheel was proposed for San Antonio in 2017.
https://www.kens5.com/article/news/l.../273-495496314
No. I believe it may be in the flight path of ABIA. Also, this (and that SA ferris wheel proposal) is (was) just a vision. There is (was) no solid proposal to build either...yet.

The renderings (above) are from a June article.

The SA wheel was far more of a vision (and kind of a joke, TBH). However, I can easily see some sort of ground-level redevelopment of the Lake Long Park area.
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A Ferris wheel is a rotating observation tower so would we need both? Both seem like a waste of money given their intended location.
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You can't convince a hurricane to stop blowing. In much the same way, you can't convince ArchGuy1 that a observation tower doesn't make sense. Let it be.
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Come on. There's nothing wrong with going to the top of a tower and sitting at a table and going round and round in circles while staring out the window and drinking expensive alcohol. You know you want to.

To be serious about it, it would be nice to have at least one public observation deck in Austin that is not the UT Tower.
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Come on. There's nothing wrong with going to the top of a tower and sitting at a table and going round and round in circles while staring out the window and drinking expensive alcohol. You know you want to.

To be serious about it, it would be nice to have at least one public observation deck in Austin that is not the UT Tower.
An observation tower like this might work in Austin.
https://www.martin-vleminckx.com/por...tems/skyspire/
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2023, 1:33 PM
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Is anyone else slightly offended by ATX's statement that we have "an abnormal obsession with skyscrapers"......? I mean...we're not weird, bro. They are. Everyone else is.
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Is anyone else slightly offended by ATX's statement that we have "an abnormal obsession with skyscrapers"......? I mean...we're not weird, bro. They are. Everyone else is.
It could be rephrased as “ATX has an abnormal obsession against anyone bringing up observation towers”. I get it that Ferris wheels or whatever are tacky and not likely to happen here, but the rant was unnecessary. We’re supposed to rant about blank walls, parking, architecture, etc.
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i'm not wholly unconvinced that archguy1 isn't a long running gag perpetrated by another longtime user. it's one of my favorite bits on here
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i'm not wholly unconvinced that archguy1 isn't a long running gag perpetrated by another longtime user. it's one of my favorite bits on here
It's KevinFromTexas, isn't it?!
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