Winnipeg Restaurants

[Cyro]

Sure, why not, add "tip % included in meal purchase price" in the menu, take it out of the equation. You may be on to something.

[buzzg]

Yeah the reality of the situation is, if you don't like tipping or don't like tipping a lot, and think we should get rid of it, fine. But then expect your $20 to be $28 because you're going to need to pay those servers higher wages. No person is going to sit there and be put through the torture of serving that some people put you through for $12-14 an hour. And it's usually the most demanding, rude people who are the ones that don't tip anyway.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Yeah the reality of the situation is, if you don't like tipping or don't like tipping a lot, and think we should get rid of it, fine. But then expect your $20 to be $28 because you're going to need to pay those servers higher wages. No person is going to sit there and be put through the torture of serving that some people put you through for $12-14 an hour. And it's usually the most demanding, rude people who are the ones that don't tip anyway.

This is actually how it works in most of the world. Restaurants pay waiters a fair wage and build it into the prices charged to patrons.

[Wolf13]

Originally Posted by Cyro

Not quite...He's responding to this post...



We're not talking about cheap tippers, the fact is not everyone in this or any other City is and Engineer or Architect? ( no offense intended to high income earners).. Don't eat out if you can only tip a buck or 2 is the jist of the response...

is that so bad? It's cold, but perhaps true...

If $18 is affordable to you but $20 isn't, then perhaps $18 isn't affordable anymore. But, save up aside for special moments.

Friends have asked me "which car do I buy? this one is less practical, but this one drinks more fuel I don't think I can afford all the gas. Both cost $25k"

"Buy a car worth $20k".

That said, I think that Winnipeggers have a very low perspective of their own wealth, because it turns out we all have thirsty trucks, snowmobiles, pay thousands to put our kids in hockey and all have a cabin at a lake... but going out for dinner is expensive.

That might simply be a reflection of our priorities, and is totally cool... because I like being outdoors yet have no interest in saving up for a cabin. I like a good dinner instead (ironically a far worse investment over time).

Others who don't have all those things still measure the affordability of a meal by what the whole of Winnipeg does... and a chunk of the whole of Winnipeg has all those toys. So a $15+ meal is expensive just because...

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by esquire

This is actually how it works in most of the world. Restaurants pay waiters a fair wage and build it into the prices charged to patrons.

Ok, but good luck being the first restaurant to charge $22 for a caesar salad with no protein.

And yeah, agree with you Wolf^

[cllew]

Originally Posted by esquire

This is actually how it works in most of the world. Restaurants pay waiters a fair wage and build it into the prices charged to patrons.

But then in those parts of the world, food service is a career and not something you do while in post secondary education or because you are between jobs. I have seen pictures of restaurants in Europe, and they have staff in there 50's and 60's serving tables and have made a living doing that for years.

Here in Winnipeg your are lucky to see a manager in their 40's running a place, never mind a server that old. Especially if its a chain type restaurant.

The only older staffer you may see there is the Franchisee on the rare day he/she decides to stop in.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by cllew

But then in those parts of the world, food service is a career and not something you do while in post secondary education or because you are between jobs. I have seen pictures of restaurants in Europe, and they have staff in there 50's and 60's serving tables and have made a living doing that for years.

Here in Winnipeg your are lucky to see a manager in their 40's running a place, never mind a server that old. Especially if its a chain type restaurant.

The only older staffer you may see there is the Franchisee on the rare day he/she decides to stop in.

Yeah you really only see older career-servers here regularly at the "high-class" steak house type paces like 529, Hy's, Blue Marble, etc.

[Cyro]

Originally Posted by Wolf13

is that so bad? It's cold, but perhaps true...

It is pretty cold, being required to pay 15-20% is difficult for some. Let's just disagree and move on.

[buzzg]

Ok, but that 15-20% would then be included in the price of the meal, so that would make it out of the question anyway.

[Cyro]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Ok.

[factis]

Finally made it down to Cibo last night. What a beautiful space!

[Riverman]

We almost stopped in for a drink there at around 9.

[Wolf13]

Went to Close Co. on Stafford over the weekend. Cool place!

Awesome drinks. Sure the food is good as well, but wasn't hungry. Tiny space, maybe room for 10 people, 12 if you cram together.

[buzzg]

^Went there a while back, food was great and changes often. Because it's so small when I was there we shared a table with a young couple who had just moved here from Vancouver and love it here. It was a great night.

Matt Frost made the menu, former head chef at several Earls and has done menus for lots of local spots.

[buzzg]

According to the WFP Browns is aiming for a Jan/Feb opening now. As we have said before it's about double the size of their normal stores and by far the biggest, most prominent one.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bus...390531831.html

[RepomanYWG]

I noticed a burrito spledito going up at the route 90 split near the Tims / Wendys

[cutchemist42]

Maybe not a big deal, but I think Blind Tiger has abandoned the speakeasy gimmick as I saw the windows are clear now to look into the resturant from the street.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by cutchemist42

Maybe not a big deal, but I think Blind Tiger has abandoned the speakeasy gimmick as I saw the windows are clear now to look into the resturant from the street.

It was a cute gimmick, but in a city like this it's hard to make it work without at least some level of visibility.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by cutchemist42

Maybe not a big deal, but I think Blind Tiger has abandoned the speakeasy gimmick as I saw the windows are clear now to look into the resturant from the street.

Expanded their hours too. Open late night on the weekends now. What a time to quit drinking.

[LilZebra]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Yeah the reality of the situation is, if you don't like tipping or don't like tipping a lot, and think we should get rid of it, fine. But then expect your $20 to be $28 because you're going to need to pay those servers higher wages. No person is going to sit there and be put through the torture of serving that some people put you through for $12-14 an hour. And it's usually the most demanding, rude people who are the ones that don't tip anyway.

When I was working for Agriculture & Agri-Food Canada 1999 thru 2011 (AIDA, CFIP, CAIS, AgriStability) as a CR-03 (Data Entry Clerk) I started off working as a temp. via Drake Office Overload @ $7. When I was hired directly in 2000 I started off at $14. By the time I finished my 12 yrs. I was making $16 and some change per hour.

And the thing is...our jobs became not more, but _less_ physically demanding due to automation, yet we were earning a _higher_ salary.

Where does it end?