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Old Posted Mar 20, 2015, 4:47 AM
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Ha! I'm sure that the Nimbys are thrilled.

What I don't understand is if Red Peak won the lawsuit, why didn't they go through with the development?

Maybe they were sick of dealing with the neighborhood and just wanted to cut their losses?
I don't think that Red Peak was a party in the lawsuit in the end. They never owned the property. I think it was only the property owner, Tom Wooten. The property was eventually sold to Alliance Residential, who is now developing the site.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2015, 4:10 PM
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Oh good, Denver Post published the Sloan's Lake complaint.

TL;DR brief:

Facts:

Paragraphs 1-17: We had an original plan for Sloan's Lake, in which we wanted the tallest future buildings to be along Colfax. We started working with the city in making this plan back in 2004, and we continued to be a stakeholder throughout. Later, that whole area was rezoned, and that rezoning didn't reflect the earlier agreements. After the 2015 council meeting, the Denver City Council put the tallest part of the future buildings on 17th. We're mad.

Venue:

Paragraphs 18-21: Civil procedure states we can sue, but we must sue in this court.

Parties:

Paragraphs 19-33: A who's who of people and the injuries they will suffer. Injuries include increased traffic, shadows, increased use of the park without increased parking, and the consequences stemming from those 3 injuries.

General Allegations:

Paragraphs 34-50: We, and the city, had "guiding principles" for the St. Anthony's site. Those principles came about in 2006, and they were part of a larger plan. The plan and principles stipulated where the future buildings should go, and why they should go there. The city approved this plan, which we think makes it a legal requirement to put those buildings in those spots. Later, the area was rezoned. In 2015, the city council ignored the 2006 plan and principles, putting the future buildings elsewhere. Now the tallest future buildings will not be on Colfax, like we thought in 2006. They will be on 17th. We're mad, and Councilwoman Shepard stepped outside her duties as councilwoman. We're mad, and the 2006 agreement should stand inspite of new zoning, because this new agreement is bad under the guise of "courtesy zoning".

First claim for relief:

Paragraphs 51-63: Undo the 2015 Denver City Council meeting. By law, that meeting was supposed to be quasi-judicial, which means that meeting needed to look at legal precedence. Specifically, the meeting should have looked at the 2006 plan. It wasn't quasi-judicial, because it ignored the 2006 plan and other plans we've cited in this complaint. So undo the 2015 meeting.

Second claim for relief:

Paragraphs 64-67 (end): We want declaratory relief. That means we want this court to use its powers to compel the city to do something. Specifically we want the court to compel the city to do the following:

1. Tell the city it screwed up the zoning.
2. Undo the 2015 meeting.
3. State the rezoning that occurred was bad precedent.

I merely skimmed the items in the brief. Someone else should double check my interpretation of what the brief said.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2015, 5:20 PM
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^ I'd say very nicely done.

Obviously they intentionally misstate differences between general vision planning and specific legally enforceable things.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2015, 6:02 PM
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Until someone develops a beautiful Whole Foods or a Super Target on that site. No one will be happy until that happens. And I mean the entire site with a huge sprawling parking lot.
There's a Target about a block away, and a King Sooper's, and the Safeway is fairly close too.

I highly highly doubt this site would get a sniff from Whole Foods. They look at densities, incomes, college degrees, and proximity to other stores like the flagship store in Union Station.

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Old Posted Mar 20, 2015, 6:16 PM
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I think that was more of a tongue in cheek comment by DoHoDen.

I'm pretty sure any kind of development will piss someone off because more people = more traffic. This is just a repeat of the redevelopment of the old CU medical campus along Colorado Blvd. Apparently, everyone was fine moving into a house next to a university and several hospitals but, god forbid anyone builds a building over 4 stories because [whine]too much traffic[/whine].

PS: a regular Target =/= a Super Target.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2015, 6:42 PM
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I'm pretty sure any kind of development will piss someone off because more people = more traffic. This is just a repeat of the redevelopment of the old CU medical campus along Colorado Blvd. Apparently, everyone was fine moving into a house next to a university and several hospitals but, god forbid anyone builds a building over 4 stories because [whine]too much traffic[/whine].
I don't find it analogous to Colorado Blvd at all. The CU Health redevelopment plan with the least density was the one that the neighborhood and the city ultimately stopped. The two plans with some density and mixed use buildings (pre-recession, post walmart) were generally accepted, although I believe the pre-recession plan had a little more in it.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2015, 9:14 PM
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Just because the neighborhood whined about a shitty WalMart parking lot didn't mean they were okay with any semblance of density, either. The former just captured more of their attention because the main concern was high traffic.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2015, 3:59 AM
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I think that was more of a tongue in cheek comment by DoHoDen.
It totally was tongue in cheek. I love DoHoDen!! Thanks Dirt!!
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2015, 5:22 PM
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Weekend Analysis

"What a privilege to live in Colorado."

Because of the self imposed austerity that was set in motion a few years ago in Arizona by carving out tax breaks for those that least need it and adding future tax cuts that are ready to kick in, I did some simple comparisons.

Using estimates for 2014 population per Wikipedia, Arizona has about 26% more population or put another way Colorado has 79% of the Arizona population. Arizona just passed their budget for next fiscal year at $9.1 billion. Colorado is looking at closer to $10.2 billion for their General Fund. A comparable budget for Colorado based on population would be closer to $7.2 billion. Or looked at another way, Colorado's budget (per capita) is 29% higher than Arizona's.

I believe the difference between the two states has flip flopped since before the recession (on a nominal basis). One other note of interest is that Arizona, the state collects 5.6% sales tax whereas Colorado, the state collects only 2.9%. Sales taxes paid are comparable but in Colorado the difference goes to the municipal jurisdictions.

Left unexplained (it's way over my head) is how resources are allocated. I did check incarceration costs a few years ago and Arizona, even though the per bed costs are less, spends about a half billion more per year on their prison system.

It would be more interesting to see an apples to apples comparison as budgets can be complex and allocations can vary.

P.S. Don't forget to enjoy the place while you're THERE.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2015, 10:37 PM
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The site in Highland Square is totally under construction by the way. Tons of equipment on site, those drilling rigs (not sure what they are called) etc. They are already in full construction mode.

Who really lost with the lawsuit? Maybe Red Peak?

Seems the land owner made a lot more money selling to the new developer ($9.7m) than to Red Peak (u/c for $4.55m).

Same development goes up.

Seems like for as much noise as these people make, they haven't been successful in blocking anything (general observation from around town, not just Highland)
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2015, 4:59 PM
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Surfing the Internets - Woo Woo

I had no idea that THIS even existed let alone comprehend much about it. It's a testament to the wisdom and reason that pervades Colorado.
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WESTMINSTER — The prospects for a new transmountain water diversion that would bring more water to Colorado’s growing cities on the Front Range appeared to brighten during a recent meeting of about 300 Colorado water leaders.
If you've spent any time (beyond skiing) enjoying the Colorado High Country then such things as water and air, flowers and trees have high value. Yet the fast growing front range will only have growing political clout over time. Water is a very basic need.

I've been on blogs where I made people's eyes cross; caused great confusion and bewilderment by relating that the Colorado West Slope Republicans, the hardscrabble ranchers and farmers are very much Environmentalists. If you've ever met ALEC, a real sweetheart, then you'd be aware of the increasing nannyism by states, something that I know well from my back porch. There's always strange bedfellows though (ht to exit2lef).

Hard to appreciate at times, I'm sure, how lucky you are to live in Colorado.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2015, 1:16 AM
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The Fairfield Inn is under construction near 27th and Wyandot.

And they've torn down the building at 28th and Vallejo.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2015, 3:57 AM
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I have a few questions about the downtown Denver office market. How frequently do companies move downtown from the suburbs, from somewhere else in Colorado, or even the U.S.? Is this a big trend in Denver, or is a lot of the growth from existing companies adding to their workforce? How often has this happened over the last couple of decades?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2015, 2:20 PM
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I have a few questions about the downtown Denver office market. How frequently do companies move downtown from the suburbs, from somewhere else in Colorado, or even the U.S.? Is this a big trend in Denver, or is a lot of the growth from existing companies adding to their workforce? How often has this happened over the last couple of decades?
We are seeing movement at a decent clip where companies that either need more space or newer diggs are tending to move/look downtown. It only makes sense given the countless feeders to the core city and general lifestyle/biz community it affords. When I look for employment, proximity to downtown or light rail are on the top of my want list. Friends who have employment in TC always regard that as a hassle/unfortunate truth. For example nothing is in proximity to the light rail in the TC.....

Recently several companies moved from the TC. It was also announced several mountain companies were moving to Denver, not sure where.

But in my opinion its not fast enough. I think once the train to the Airport is done, things will accelerate. (depending on global conditions)
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2015, 6:01 PM
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Here's a 2013 Downtown Denver status report. We then had 27.1 million square feet of office space in and around downtown then. And off the top of my head, DaVita, Posinelli, Xcel Energy, IMA financial, Antero Resources all built or are building new office buildings downtown. It is also worth noting that Davita moved their corporate offices here. Recently new tenants have also started to fill up 1801 California, which had been filled at 45-55% capacity when Qwest/Century Link moved their headquarters out of the state. A few of these new tenants are relocating from the Tech Center, but south metro Denver office demand is still there, as noted by the Charles Schwab campus down south and also developments in and around Arapahoe Station. There's also a good amount of new development around Cherry Creek, but that area doesn't have the sheer number of office spaces that downtown or the DTC have. And there are the northern 'burbs, but I'm not as familiar with what developments are going in up there.
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Just curious? Is there any ongoing activity at the 34-story Confluence Apartment Tower site or did they hit the pause button after some initial site work?
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Just curious? Is there any ongoing activity at the 34-story Confluence Apartment Tower site or did they hit the pause button after some initial site work?
I was just there yesterday and work is ongoing, there are probably 25-30 large pieces of construction equipment on site.

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I was just there yesterday and work is ongoing, there are probably 25-30 large pieces of construction equipment on site.


Here was the site yesterday, still piling before the excavation lest the site falls into Cherry Creek.
     
     
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Here was the site yesterday, still piling before the excavation lest the site falls into Cherry Creek.
Thanks for the photo, nice first post.
     
     
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Platform at Union Station has rebooted their website. It's legit and the rent is not bad at all.

http://platformatunionstation.com/
     
     
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